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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Monday December 10, 2012 2:37am

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This continues to be worrisome for the U-20's for qualifying.

Players that will for certain not be on the team:

1. Anthony Brooks- regular starter for Hertha now.

Players that could potentially miss if their clubs don't let them go:

1. Will Packwood
2. Marc Pelosi
3. Benji Joya- Could be in Santos first team this upcoming season in January
4. Mario Rodirguez
5. Caleb Stanko
6. Jerome Keisewetter

Injured players:
1. Salgado- Might be fully fit
2. Cody Cropper

So lets take a look on the for sures that will be available

GK: Tomas Gomez, Steffen, McIntosh
Defense: Zimmerman, Okwuono, Ocegueda, Miller, McCrary, Sean Cunningham, Cochran, Torre
Midfielders: Luis Gil, Metzger, O'Neil, Lopez, Will Trapp, Pineda, Collin Martin, Guido, Acosta
Attackers: Bijev, Villarreal, Top, Garcia, McBean, Koroma, Cuevas, Pfeffer, Spencer Jr., Moreno

Other Players that may be available:

Julian Green
Romain Gall
Delgado

Even if some players aren't released this U-20 team should have what it takes to qualify.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #2
Monday December 10, 2012 2:52am

Joined Nov 2012
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Pelosi should be in....Liverpool is good about releasing the youth for tourneys.

Bshredder
Post #3
Monday December 10, 2012 4:11am

Joined Aug 2011
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Pelosi, Cropper, Packwood, Joya, and Stanko will be there

I know Kiesewetter and Bijev are signed with big clubs but I'm actually not sure they are good enough.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #4
Monday December 10, 2012 7:36am

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Players that need to step up and be leaders for this team are:

1. Gil- He has the talent and experience to be a big time player for this U-20 team.
2. Packwood- If he is their he needs to be a big time defender.
3. Benji Joya- He has the creativity and flair to do special things on the pitch
4. Marc Pelosi- He has payed on the wing for Liverpool, but is seeing more time as a CM/CAM. Ultimately Liverpools youth coaches see him as a #8 two way CM. But where does he fit with Ramos team. Ramos has played Joya as the #8 and #10 numerous times, but I think Gil's best position is as a #8 link up player not as the CAM, so I will deploy Joya as the #10. I think you have to get Pelosi on the field, so I think Ramos will deploy him as a winger.

Possible starting 11 in Ramos' preferred 4-3-3.

Pelosi--Koroma--Villarreal
-------Joya------
------Gil#8------
--------Stanko#6---
Ocegueda--Z-Man--Pack--Okwuono
------Cropper------

Villarreal can produce special moments and will ultimatley play wild card. He has a great left foot, so I put him on the right to cut in and shoot on goal. This means that Okwuono will have to provide service into the box from the right. Ultimately I see this as pretty close to the starting 11.

admsghs27
Post #5
Monday December 10, 2012 9:19am

Joined Nov 2012
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Hey on paper we might look good but the field is what matters.. remember last time lots of talent and usa dint do shit,, so please dont get to confident ppl.. doesnt matter what team is out there if is high school, college, europe,mls or street players,.... If they play good their welcome and should start.... I dont care about specific names,, all i care is about players going all out and winj...

rambo
Chi town
Post #6
Monday December 10, 2012 4:18pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
Good to see that this team has a lot of options and depth from the lists above. can only be a good thing going forward

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #7
Monday December 10, 2012 4:35pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Pelosi is one of those players you can stick almost anywhere and he will play extremely well.

rambo
Chi town
Post #8
Monday December 10, 2012 4:55pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
Where has he been playing lately?

Bshredder
Post #9
Monday December 10, 2012 6:38pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Original post from 2tone

Players that need to step up and be leaders for this team are:

1. Gil- He has the talent and experience to be a big time player for this U-20 team.
2. Packwood- If he is their he needs to be a big time defender.
3. Benji Joya- He has the creativity and flair to do special things on the pitch
4. Marc Pelosi- He has payed on the wing for Liverpool, but is seeing more time as a CM/CAM. Ultimately Liverpools youth coaches see him as a #8 two way CM. But where does he fit with Ramos team. Ramos has played Joya as the #8 and #10 numerous times, but I think Gil's best position is as a #8 link up player not as the CAM, so I will deploy Joya as the #10. I think you have to get Pelosi on the field, so I think Ramos will deploy him as a winger.

Possible starting 11 in Ramos' preferred 4-3-3.

Pelosi-Koroma-Villarreal
----Joya---
---Gil#8---
----Stanko#6--
Ocegueda-Z-Man-Pack-Okwuono
---Cropper---

Villarreal can produce special moments and will ultimatley play wild card. He has a great left foot, so I put him on the right to cut in and shoot on goal. This means that Okwuono will have to provide service into the box from the right. Ultimately I see this as pretty close to the starting 11.


You're backline is more or less correct for qualifying.

But I am not sure Koroma is in the picture right now.

Also, Joya is a winger. On your lineup, you can switch Joya and Villarreal for their positions.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #10
Monday December 10, 2012 6:49pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from rambo

Where has he been playing lately?


Pelosi has been playing a lot at LW...but the tactical system requires a lot of positional interchanging between the top three, so he plays a good bit of all three positions throughout the game. He gets the occasional game at the 10 spot when Adorjan or Dunn is out.

rambo
Chi town
Post #11
Monday December 10, 2012 8:35pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
Thanks for the info USnLFC

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #12
Monday December 10, 2012 9:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,014
Original post from Bshredder

You're backline is more or less correct for qualifying.

But I am not sure Koroma is in the picture right now.

Also, Joya is a winger. On your lineup, you can switch Joya and Villarreal for their positions.


Ramos hasn't really played Joya as a winger, and I don't see him changing that. Joya went to Santos as a CAM who they put out on the wing, and has played both positions at youth club level. I see Joya as the #10 for Ramos with Villarreal at RW where he was played during the Marabella tournamnet. But you never know Ramos may switch it up.

If Mario Rodriguez is not let go by Kaiserslautern than it's a toss up between Koroma, Bijev, Mcbean, or Salgado( if he is fully fit). Cuevas is more of a wide forward.

Bshredder
Post #13
Friday December 14, 2012 12:53am

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
So the new roster is out. Zimmerman is out with a pulled groin. Packwood and Brooks were not released. Of course Adam Henley is still in limbo but he's considering the USA. But the backline is pretty thin for this camp.

For qualifying I do think Packwood will get released. Sean Cunningham is back to training after his hip surgery. Maybe a January camp U20 callup.

I've also heard Bijev has not impressed at all with the U20s and was poor with Start. He wasn't invited to this camp. I don't think he's on this U20 team.

Ocegueda appears out at Tigres. We are awaiting news as to what's up.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #14
Friday December 14, 2012 1:21am

Joined Jul 2012
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Some interesting new faces. yeah I heard Bijev may just not suit Ramos and this U-20 team. Kid has talent though.

Yeah I was wondering what is up with Ocegueda all of the sudden having the unattached label. Last I heard was that he was impressing for Tigres youth teams and was on the verge of seeing some minutes.

Still think Julian Green and Pfeffer should be in the mix for this U-20 team.

Bshredder
Post #15
Friday December 14, 2012 1:50am

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Regarding Green and Pfeffer, I'm not sure Ramos is into having players play up a cycle unless it's urgent. They're 2015 U20 WC guys

Regarding Bijev, I'm not sold

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