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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Sunday December 27, 2020 9:23am

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You have Nations league and Gold Cup this upcoming summer if COVID permits. Who do you all have in the team? It will be hard to sell European clubs letting players go for both so I think the top European Club players will be brought in mostly for the Gold Cup.

Nations League team:

GK: Guzan, Johnson, Miller
D: Reynolds, Duncan, Long, Mckenzie, Zimmerman, EPB, Bello, Vines
M: Yueill, Roldan, Acosta, Bassett, A. Morris, Lletget
A: Sabbi, Zardes, Mueller, De La Fuente, Soto, Llanez

Potentials: Alvarez, Araujo, Akinola, Pomykal, Caden Clark, Tessman

Gold Cup:

GK: Steffen, Horvath, Guzan
D: Dest, Cannon, Brooks, Richards, Miazga, Long, A. Robinson, Bello
M: Mckennie, Adams, Yueill, Lletget, Aaronson, Cardoso
A: Pulisic, Weah, Sargent, Reyna, Giaochinni, J. Morris

Potentials: Sabbi, Musah, Llanez, De la Fuente

I do think some players from the Nations League will be on the Gold Cup roster.

I didn't put Musah on there because we still don't know if he is going to commit to the USA and I think it will be to soon for him to make that decision.

Also you have to think a lot of these players will want to play in the Olympic team if A. we qualify and B. The tournament is a go.

bjelks
Post #2
Sunday December 27, 2020 3:35pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I don't think Aaron Long, Yueill, Lletget, Morris, and Gioacchini belong anywhere near the national team.
goalsense
Dave
Post #3
Sunday December 27, 2020 8:58pm

Joined Jul 2014
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It's difficult to determine what Gregg is going to do roster wise with all the competitions scheduled for 2021 (Olympic, Nations League, Gold Cup, WC Qualifiers). He's going to have to rotate some of the players...and clubs aren't required to release players for the Olympics.
Olympics will primarily be MLS and Liga MX players with maybe a couple Euro players who aren't featuring for their clubs 1st teams.
Nations league is something no-one really cares about. I'd guess that the squad will be mostly domestic players with a couple fringe Euro players.
Gold Cup is a chance to get everyone together for an extended period of time. I expect this to be as much of the "A" Team as possible.
WC Qualifiers are clearly the most important and should be what Gregg sees to be his "A" team.
As for who gets selected for which competition it's going to be difficult to say until we know when each competition is going to be held. There will be some players sacrificed to the Olympic team while others are given time off due to the congested club schedules.
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From my perspective it's easier to pick out who shouldn't be involved than it is to predict who Gregg will call. The players I believe we shouldn't move on from Include:
Gusan - He's fallen down the depth chart and it's time to move on.
Bradley - Has been a shell of what he was. Time has caught up and passed him.
Jozy - His continued injuries leaves him on the outside for me.
Roldan - has proven himself to not be equal to the international level.
Long & Zimmerman - I'm not a fan of either and believe that there are better options available. That said I think Gregg will continue to call them.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #4
Sunday December 27, 2020 10:24pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from bjelks

I don't think Aaron Long, Yueill, Lletget, Morris, and Gioacchini belong anywhere near the national team.


I disagree

bjelks
Post #5
Monday December 28, 2020 2:03am

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Aaron Long has consistently been awful for almost 2 yrs

Morris has never made an impact against Mexico or any decent team, he was even pedestrian in the mls playoffs

Yueill is clearly not on the level of Cardoso or Owatasawie

Lletget is not an impact player and doesn't have the quality of Julian Green or Ledezma

Nico G doesn't have the experience of Arjo, Haji and isn't on the level of Sango or Forlarin

It's ok to have your preferences but none of them even consider the quality of the pool outside of them which is problematic

All I want for the new year is the politics to be taken out of selections
goalsense
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #6
Monday December 28, 2020 2:54am

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Disagree. The only I would add is Otasowie for Yueill. Ledesma is out for 9 months bud. Highly doubtful Balugon is going to committ to the US by the Gold Cup. ArJo is 30 and it looks like Berhalter is going for young players. Green may get a callup.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #7
Monday December 28, 2020 3:00am

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Malick Sanogo is 16 and barely breaking in for the first team.

hamsamwich
Post #8
Monday December 28, 2020 4:04am

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I'd like to see all our fringe players be given a run out in the gold cup to let them get a handle on the region. The nations league is more of a win the game you play rather than develop a squad over a tournament. Lots of games to go around.

cudevil
Post #9
Monday December 28, 2020 4:43am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,207
Original post from bjelks

Aaron Long has consistently been awful for almost 2 yrs

Morris has never made an impact against Mexico or any decent team, he was even pedestrian in the mls playoffs

Yueill is clearly not on the level of Cardoso or Owatasawie

Lletget is not an impact player and doesn't have the quality of Julian Green or Ledezma

Nico G doesn't have the experience of Arjo, Haji and isn't on the level of Sango or Forlarin

It's ok to have your preferences but none of them even consider the quality of the pool outside of them which is problematic

All I want for the new year is the politics to be taken out of selections


Don't get the take on NG. He might not be a starter, but he is extremely mobile, linked up well with the midfield, put himself in great spots for his goals, etc. Don't care that he is currently in Ligue 2. He can play.

blaise213
Post #10
Monday December 28, 2020 8:47am

Joined Sep 2012
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My boy Malik Tillman rocking the American Flag/German Flag on his Instagram

Like to see him playing for the Nats after he recovers from injury

bjelks
Post #11
Monday December 28, 2020 4:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,996
Original post from 2tone

Disagree. The only I would add is Otasowie for Yueill. Ledesma is out for 9 months bud. Highly doubtful Balugon is going to committ to the US by the Gold Cup. ArJo is 30 and it looks like Berhalter is going for young players. Green may get a callup.


Arjo is the same age as LLetget and younger than Ream

Morris is 26 and not a younger player

EPB has rated highly against Salzburg, LASK and Vienna, and ppl are afraid to say his name
goalsense
bjelks
Post #12
Monday December 28, 2020 4:06pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,996
Original post from cudevil

Don't get the take on NG. He might not be a starter, but he is extremely mobile, linked up well with the midfield, put himself in great spots for his goals, etc. Don't care that he is currently in Ligue 2. He can play.


Nico G is fine but what argument can you make to separate him from Haji (higher level, scoring, moves just as well if not better), Arjo (higher level, better technique more clinical), Forlarin ( a stud in every way), Sango (the best young striker prospect in Germany)

I mean let's think critically guys and not just pick favorites
goalsense
cudevil
Post #13
Monday December 28, 2020 8:24pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from bjelks

Nico G is fine but what argument can you make to separate him from Haji (higher level, scoring, moves just as well if not better), Arjo (higher level, better technique more clinical), Forlarin ( a stud in every way), Sango (the best young striker prospect in Germany)

I mean let's think critically guys and not just pick favorites


Haji isn't as skilled as NG.
I'd be fine calling in ArJo, but Berhalter doesn't seem interested.
Folarin isn't committed to the Nats. Neither is Sanogo.

The idea that NG doesn't belong with the Nats doesn't track at all.

blaise213
Post #14
Monday December 28, 2020 8:54pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,340
Original post from cudevil

Haji isn't as skilled as NG.
I'd be fine calling in ArJo, but Berhalter doesn't seem interested.
Folarin isn't committed to the Nats. Neither is Sanogo.

The idea that NG doesn't belong with the Nats doesn't track at all.


From what I heard Sanogo is waiting for a US call-up. I should've work for US Soccer, been calling for Balogun for over a year.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #15
Tuesday December 29, 2020 12:18am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Original post from bjelks

Arjo is the same age as LLetget and younger than Ream

Morris is 26 and not a younger player

EPB has rated highly against Salzburg, LASK and Vienna, and ppl are afraid to say his name


ArJo may get a call up who knows. EPB hasn't really shown he is a better quality CB, but he is still young. You want experience more at the back.

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