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Post #91
Friday October 23, 2020 6:01pm

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Can offer some advice bjelks...don't take the fact others don't see things as you do as a personal affront and lash out immediately. Take some time to calm down first. It is not worth getting upset about and calling others names as it just detracts from the point you are trying to make.

hamsamwich
Post #92
Friday October 23, 2020 6:10pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
Dest is technically a natural winger who has moved back to outside back. I'm all for him being our starter at RB, I'm talking about this game in particular. I'd bet that Dest is a better more technical winger than Sabbi- it's just that dest has a higher ceiling at outside back. Dani Alves (the personification of a modern RB) has played RW many times for Brazil for example. But sure bring Sabbi in like I said I'm neither for it or against it.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #93
Friday October 23, 2020 6:11pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

Yes when you value all players the same it discredits how fucking hard it is to play at higher levels you fanboy clown. If that was the case CP to Chelsea for 60mil wouldn't be a big deal.

If level doesn't matter, then we should pick guys from park leagues.

Dude I pointed out all Morris' limitations and I told your simple ass why he can't translate to higher levels.

Then I picked guys that have profiles that do translate to higher levels in mls, stop being a fucking clown. Your dumbass is the reason our program is a joke.

Look at who makes it to WC semis and where they play.

Nobody mentioned 3rd tier Bulgaria you fucking idiot.

I mentioned Transfermarkt for the 100th time, who the fuck do you think does their player valuations? Actual scouts and market analysts you simple ass.

And again, I told you Morris has been linked to PNE a mid tier EFL side, Euro scouts see him as a mid tier player. If he was better, he would be linked to better clubs.

I'm convinced you're trolling and being stupid for sport, you don't know shit, you make up shit like Bulgaria and continue to discredit anything that mls/sum/ USSF employees don't say.

I could give 2 shits about your dumbass fanboy agenda, every time you say something egregiously wrong I'll be here to remind you how much of a dumbfuck you are and how useless your opinion is.


OK Genius lets go back to your original post.

Bc his club level is too low

Bc he doesn't have the mentality for top level competition

Bc his skillset or lack thereof doesn't complement our top players

Bc his technique is bad

Bc he can't beat ppl 1v1

Bc he can't cross or shoot from range

Bc he can't combine in tight spaces

Bc he can't cut in

Bc if he was at a higher level he wouldn't perform better than the other wingers

Bc his inclusion sends a message of bias to inferior players with cushy careers and makes the program look bad


Then I said it was your opinion and you said this:

Lol, so if you don't agree with my observation as well as many other expert scout observations on a player.

Then I said Link to even one scout who back your statements.

You gave me tranfermarket and Gary Kleiban neither are expert scouts or even scouts. You didn't back anything up but deflected by calling me name (which you continue to do) and talking about a bunch of stuff that I never said or even inferred.

I never once said I valued all players the same: here is what I said I simply don't count a guy out because he plays in MLS . Here is something else I clearly stated: Of course I value the guys playing in big leagues more.

As far as Morris has been linked to PNE Huh, they said once that they were interested in him so what. MLS teams have said they were interested in Messi, so that means he is MLS level? Your argument has zero merit. They didn't enter into talks with his agent or anything PNE have absolutely nothing to do with Jordan Morris. You are the guy who is being thick and trolling. The fact that you actually believe that the Scouts from Tranfermarket have really scouted Morris is amusing. You know they haven't. So back to the original point, LINK ME TO EVEN ONE SCOUT THAT BACKS UP YOUR OBSERVATIONS. You haven't and you won't because there isn't one. These were simply you own opinions as I said from the start.

hamsamwich
Post #94
Friday October 23, 2020 8:29pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
Game is Nov 12th. Potentially a game after that vs Panama in London but don't hold your breath.

Sebastian Soto should be called in to back up sargent if this is truly a Europe only camp. He's scoring goals, even at a low level he should be brought in for training bare minimum.

blaise213
Post #95
Friday October 23, 2020 9:22pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,251
Original post from hamsamwich

Game is Nov 12th. Potentially a game after that vs Panama in London but don't hold your breath.

Sebastian Soto should be called in to back up sargent if this is truly a Europe only camp. He's scoring goals, even at a low level he should be brought in for training bare minimum.


Johannsson
Sargent
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blaise213
Post #96
Friday October 23, 2020 9:23pm

Joined Sep 2012
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Berhalter is an idiot for saying MLS will be involved

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #97
Friday October 23, 2020 10:25pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from blaise213

Berhalter is an idiot for saying MLS will be involved


Why? We have already seen what the MLS players can do. This is the opportunity to bring in some of the Euro based players that it doesn't make sense to fly across the ocean for 15 min of play.

blaise213
Post #98
Saturday October 24, 2020 6:28am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,251
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Why? We have already seen what the MLS players can do. This is the opportunity to bring in some of the Euro based players that it doesn't make sense to fly across the ocean for 15 min of play.


Yeah I meant "MLS players" but Berhalter was quoted saying that on the MLS website. There should be 0 MLS players called in.

bjelks
Post #99
Saturday October 24, 2020 11:00am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

OK Genius lets go back to your original post.

Bc his club level is too low

Bc he doesn't have the mentality for top level competition

Bc his skillset or lack thereof doesn't complement our top players

Bc his technique is bad

Bc he can't beat ppl 1v1

Bc he can't cross or shoot from range

Bc he can't combine in tight spaces

Bc he can't cut in

Bc if he was at a higher level he wouldn't perform better than the other wingers

Bc his inclusion sends a message of bias to inferior players with cushy careers and makes the program look bad


Then I said it was your opinion and you said this:

Lol, so if you don't agree with my observation as well as many other expert scout observations on a player.

Then I said Link to even one scout who back your statements.

You gave me tranfermarket and Gary Kleiban neither are expert scouts or even scouts. You didn't back anything up but deflected by calling me name (which you continue to do) and talking about a bunch of stuff that I never said or even inferred.

I never once said I valued all players the same: here is what I said I simply don't count a guy out because he plays in MLS . Here is something else I clearly stated: Of course I value the guys playing in big leagues more.

As far as Morris has been linked to PNE Huh, they said once that they were interested in him so what. MLS teams have said they were interested in Messi, so that means he is MLS level? Your argument has zero merit. They didn't enter into talks with his agent or anything PNE have absolutely nothing to do with Jordan Morris. You are the guy who is being thick and trolling. The fact that you actually believe that the Scouts from Tranfermarket have really scouted Morris is amusing. You know they haven't. So back to the original point, LINK ME TO EVEN ONE SCOUT THAT BACKS UP YOUR OBSERVATIONS. You haven't and you won't because there isn't one. These were simply you own opinions as I said from the start.


You can't tell me that a website made up of scouts that's sole purpose is to rate players has no scouts you dumb fucking idiot.

You can't tell me that someone who develops pro players for a living in a league that you worship is not a scout you moron.

You don't have any source not backed by mls/ sum/ USSF that praises Jordan Morris yet you want to criticize the legit sources I give you. Shame on you you bigot sellout idiot.

I've given you more than enough sources you give me a credible source not affiliated with USA soccer that suggests that your good ole boy hope is anything more than a fanboy hype job.

You don't know how to evaluate players and you hype mls players just for playing in mls and discredit other guys that aren't world class players on top teams. You will forever be wrong.

I've given you mls players that can potentially translate to a higher level, Morris isn't one of them. Move on. How

Don't you think if a player was good scouts from big clubs would find him?

How the fuck is every good player in the world linked to big clubs but Morris, cut the clown shit.
It's not going to work with me.

You're dumb as fuck for saying a player that has been voted best player in the world several times is mls level because mls is interested.
Lol mls is interested in all aging players they can cut a deal with.

Again tell me, what big club Morris is even linked with dipshit.
goalsense
Samtom23
Post #100
Saturday October 24, 2020 3:07pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 510
Original post from bjelks

You can't tell me that a website made up of scouts that's sole purpose is to rate players has no scouts you dumb fucking idiot.

You can't tell me that someone who develops pro players for a living in a league that you worship is not a scout you moron.

You don't have any source not backed by mls/ sum/ USSF that praises Jordan Morris yet you want to criticize the legit sources I give you. Shame on you you bigot sellout idiot.

I've given you more than enough sources you give me a credible source not affiliated with USA soccer that suggests that your good ole boy hope is anything more than a fanboy hype job.

You don't know how to evaluate players and you hype mls players just for playing in mls and discredit other guys that aren't world class players on top teams. You will forever be wrong.

I've given you mls players that can potentially translate to a higher level, Morris isn't one of them. Move on. How

Don't you think if a player was good scouts from big clubs would find him?

How the fuck is every good player in the world linked to big clubs but Morris, cut the clown shit.
It's not going to work with me.

You're dumb as fuck for saying a player that has been voted best player in the world several times is mls level because mls is interested.
Lol mls is interested in all aging players they can cut a deal with.

Again tell me, what big club Morris is even linked with dipshit.


Well, first off. I am not sure why we even talking about Morris right now because this will be a European camp.

But point out a few things.

Morris has no interesting in moving, so logically he will not have any links to any clubs big or small.

But instead of looking at opinion of who is making what look at market value per transfer market.

Uly is rated at 200K
Morris is rated at 3.5 million
Weah is rated at 7.5 million
De La Fuente is rated at 2.5 million

If you want to only go by transfer market our depth chart is this.

1) Weah
2) Morris
3) De La Fuente
4) Uly

These numbers might change tomorrow. But do you believe Morris is that much better than Uly based on a website that is made up of scouts? And even though, Uly has a lower value than De La Fuente, I think he will end up being better than him. And I think Uly will eventually overtake Morris also.

But put Morris from the mind for awhile. He is not part of the November European camp, so it is really rather pointless to discuss for this camp.

Samtom23
Post #101
Saturday October 24, 2020 3:12pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 510
Ream just let a goal in by not marking the runner. So afraid to see him in November.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #102
Saturday October 24, 2020 4:07pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

You can't tell me that a website made up of scouts that's sole purpose is to rate players has no scouts you dumb fucking idiot.

You can't tell me that someone who develops pro players for a living in a league that you worship is not a scout you moron.

You don't have any source not backed by mls/ sum/ USSF that praises Jordan Morris yet you want to criticize the legit sources I give you. Shame on you you bigot sellout idiot.

I've given you more than enough sources you give me a credible source not affiliated with USA soccer that suggests that your good ole boy hope is anything more than a fanboy hype job.

You don't know how to evaluate players and you hype mls players just for playing in mls and discredit other guys that aren't world class players on top teams. You will forever be wrong.

I've given you mls players that can potentially translate to a higher level, Morris isn't one of them. Move on. How

Don't you think if a player was good scouts from big clubs would find him?

How the fuck is every good player in the world linked to big clubs but Morris, cut the clown shit.
It's not going to work with me.

You're dumb as fuck for saying a player that has been voted best player in the world several times is mls level because mls is interested.
Lol mls is interested in all aging players they can cut a deal with.

Again tell me, what big club Morris is even linked with dipshit.


Lol all i ever did was say Morris still has a place on the National team until a better player steps up.
All this crazy talk about what I think for feel all comes from you because I didn't ever say or infer any of it. You might have legitimate mental health issues because I feel you truly suffer from delusions.

By the way ttransfermarkt is a data driven estimate of a players value, they don't use scouts at all. Once again despite the fact that you continue to call me names and put words into my mouth that I don't say. You are dead wrong. You still have not provided one single scout that agrees with your assessment of Morris, only 1 fired ex U19 coach.

I keep calling you out when you state your opinions like they are facts. They are not, so quit doing it. It makes you look so foolish. Especially when you attempt to cover it up all the time by name calling, false accusations, and deflecting the original question to a totally unrelated subject.

So once again LINK ME TO EVEN ONE SCOUT WHO SHARES YOUR ASESSMENT OF MORRIS. Stop calling me mls lover and saying i can't rate player and distracting. Back up your statement.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #103
Saturday October 24, 2020 5:24pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,605
Tyler Adams injured again. Kid can't stay healthy. May not see him with the USMNT. Would really like to see Jonny Cardozo called up.

blaise213
Post #104
Saturday October 24, 2020 5:33pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,251
Original post from 2tone

Tyler Adams injured again. Kid can't stay healthy. May not see him with the USMNT. Would really like to see Jonny Cardozo called up.


+1000

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #105
Saturday October 24, 2020 7:45pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Adams suffered an injury to his lateral ligament (LCL) and is set to be re-evaluated this next week.

Ligaments (for those who don't know) connect bone to bone. Tendons connect muscle to bone. A typical LCL injury is a simple tear in the Ligament and take about 2 weeks to heal. It is treated with rest and range of motion exercises for the Knee.

So Nov 12 vs Wales is still a possibility. Not sure when the actual camp before the match starts but I would most likely say that this injury effectively puts Adams out of the Camp/Match.

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