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bjelks
Post #76
Thursday October 22, 2020 11:04am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Kamphgruppe

Like me to even one expert scout who shares your opinion. You made that up dude, come on.


Morris is linked to PNE, that's a mid table EFL team.

Transfermarkt values him at around 3.5 mil

Gary Kleiban pointed out all these flaws in his game and the gap between him and a top
level player.

Seriously find something else to talk about and find goodness sake find another mls player to die on. This dude isn't anything special
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Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #77
Thursday October 22, 2020 7:15pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Original post from Samtom23

When will they announce the roster? It seems it has to be soon, we are almost in November already.


LOL. US soccer has never released a roster at a reasonable time. We will probably get this roster the day after everyone arrives lol. I feel like we always figure out who's gotten the call by club's press releases of player on international duty and players own social media posts about traveling...Am I wrong??

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #78
Thursday October 22, 2020 7:19pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Anyone watch Jen Cajuste in Champions league? I only watched the highlights and saw the sick run he made.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #79
Thursday October 22, 2020 7:56pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,380
Weah on the bench vs Sparta Prague

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #80
Friday October 23, 2020 3:29am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

Morris is linked to PNE, that's a mid table EFL team.

Transfermarkt values him at around 3.5 mil

Gary Kleiban pointed out all these flaws in his game and the gap between him and a top
level player.

Seriously find something else to talk about and find goodness sake find another mls player to die on. This dude isn't anything special


To be fair. The coach of a rival teams U19 academy team is not a scout or an expert of any kind. I doubt any LA galaxy coach has a lot of good things to say about any Seattle Sounder. What does the transfer Market value have to do with any of the options you expressed. You are diverting away from the any actual facts

You always accuse me of being an MLS fanboy but you could not be further from the truth. I just value MLS like our guys playing in any other league. You are the one with a problem with MLS and I just point out your tainted view because it's so far out there it's hard to take you seriously sometimes. Of course I value the guys playing in big leagues more. I simply don't count a guy out because he plays in MLS and you do. However you don't count guys out in similar leagues if they play in Europe.

hamsamwich
Post #81
Friday October 23, 2020 3:52am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
Morris is the type of guy I turn to if we are counter attacking the other team. Ideally for me as part of a front two. Thinking a healthy Weah if he can get his legs back next year- that would be the type of switch up look I would maybe like to see. But I don't see Morris being better than some of our younger options on the wing at actually playing winger. Nor do I see him as the type of central forward who drops deep like Sargent or Jozy. I think he's a sub for chasing a goal or like I said as a counterattacking guy when we play a more defensive game and look to break out. The fact he plays in MLS is irrelevant, he is the player he is now.

The lineup id like to see against Wales - given the current state of our players:

Pulisic -- Sargent --Dest
-- Reyna -- McKennie -
----Adams---
Robinson - Brooks - Richards - Cannon

Of course Steffen in goal. Subs: Weah (Dest), Uly (Pulisic), Ledezma (Reyna).

Right now I don't see an attacker in Europe who is playing Right Wing at a high level. So I'm putting Sergino in there just to see how he looks higher up the pitch. Give Cannon a runout and also Robinson. Wales have quality and it will be a good matchup. I'm saving the second game for a more attacking lineup.

bjelks
Post #82
Friday October 23, 2020 5:30am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

To be fair. The coach of a rival teams U19 academy team is not a scout or an expert of any kind. I doubt any LA galaxy coach has a lot of good things to say about any Seattle Sounder. What does the transfer Market value have to do with any of the options you expressed. You are diverting away from the any actual facts

You always accuse me of being an MLS fanboy but you could not be further from the truth. I just value MLS like our guys playing in any other league. You are the one with a problem with MLS and I just point out your tainted view because it's so far out there it's hard to take you seriously sometimes. Of course I value the guys playing in big leagues more. I simply don't count a guy out because he plays in MLS and you do. However you don't count guys out in similar leagues if they play in Europe.


The Transfermarkt value is how much the world values players.
Pulisic is worth 60 mil, Morris is worth 3.5 and he's 5 yrs older.
What are you confused about lol?

Brian Kleiban has developed more pro level players than you've watched play smh. He's not perfect, but there's a science to how he evaluates players that is beyond your understanding. He has no beef with other mls clubs, he loves Nagbe. Do your research kiddo.

If you value mls players like guys in better leagues, that's exactly the definition of a fanboy lmao.
Stop the clown shit dude.
You can't take guys from different levels and evaluate the same. This is basic shit dude.

I named several mls players that have the potential to translate to higher levels. Don't forget how to read now. I said Mckenzie, Caden Clark, Ebbiose, Neyman, you can add Busio. Don't get butt hurt because SUM/ USSF lied to you about players and now you feel foolish.

You don't know how to evaluate the game and you're a fanboy for whatever SUM/ USSF tells you to believe. According to the experts, Morris is barely a top 40 played in MLS. This is according to an objective group of global experts. Listen to other ppl than the ones that make you feel good and learn football.
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bjelks
Post #83
Friday October 23, 2020 5:33am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from hamsamwich

Morris is the type of guy I turn to if we are counter attacking the other team. Ideally for me as part of a front two. Thinking a healthy Weah if he can get his legs back next year- that would be the type of switch up look I would maybe like to see. But I don't see Morris being better than some of our younger options on the wing at actually playing winger. Nor do I see him as the type of central forward who drops deep like Sargent or Jozy. I think he's a sub for chasing a goal or like I said as a counterattacking guy when we play a more defensive game and look to break out. The fact he plays in MLS is irrelevant, he is the player he is now.

The lineup id like to see against Wales - given the current state of our players:

Pulisic - Sargent -Dest
- Reyna - McKennie -
--Adams--
Robinson - Brooks - Richards - Cannon

Of course Steffen in goal. Subs: Weah (Dest), Uly (Pulisic), Ledezma (Reyna).

Right now I don't see an attacker in Europe who is playing Right Wing at a high level. So I'm putting Sergino in there just to see how he looks higher up the pitch. Give Cannon a runout and also Robinson. Wales have quality and it will be a good matchup. I'm saving the second game for a more attacking lineup.


Sabbi can play right wing and he's in form
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hamsamwich
Post #84
Friday October 23, 2020 12:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
Sabbi isn't playing at a top tier level. Mid tier sure. I'm a Chicago guy so I'm not complaining if Sabbi plays I just think Dest is better technically and plays against better competition. I'm not against Sabbi but not all for it either.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #85
Friday October 23, 2020 3:02pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
What we should see in Nov.

---Steffen----
Dest-Miazga-Brooks-Robinson
------Adams------
---Mckennie--Reyna--
Weah/Sabbi-----Pulisic
-----Sargent--------

Putting Dest at right mid or wing would make sense to me also, even Gregg playing him at LB over Robinson and having Cannon start at RB I could see happening. Feel like there's a battle for that right side. Weah, Sabbi, Llanez, Konrad, Amon could all see time there.

hamsamwich
Post #86
Friday October 23, 2020 3:51pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
We are only having this conversation because Weah is still struggling a little in his injury return. He hasn't yet shown the full explosiveness that is part of his trademark skill set. He's always going to be a technical beast who can see things before other players- but he's not all the way back yet. I think two 15-30 minute cameo appearances in this window would be fine. Weah is playing RW for his club and his game is perfect for the role Gregg wants- tucking inside a little bit occasionally while also staying wide at times. Sabbi also plays on the right at his club the other three guys I've basically seen them on the left side cutting in on their right. All good players though and necessary with the injuries Pulisic gets. Christian can't play 70-90 min every friendly.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #87
Friday October 23, 2020 3:53pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Could you imagine if we saw Yunus Musah on the roster in Nov. Biggest yonk of all time. He would be our automatic starter on the right.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #88
Friday October 23, 2020 4:09pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

The Transfermarkt value is how much the world values players.
Pulisic is worth 60 mil, Morris is worth 3.5 and he's 5 yrs older.
What are you confused about lol?

Brian Kleiban has developed more pro level players than you've watched play smh. He's not perfect, but there's a science to how he evaluates players that is beyond your understanding. He has no beef with other mls clubs, he loves Nagbe. Do your research kiddo.

If you value mls players like guys in better leagues, that's exactly the definition of a fanboy lmao.
Stop the clown shit dude.
You can't take guys from different levels and evaluate the same. This is basic shit dude.

I named several mls players that have the potential to translate to higher levels. Don't forget how to read now. I said Mckenzie, Caden Clark, Ebbiose, Neyman, you can add Busio. Don't get butt hurt because SUM/ USSF lied to you about players and now you feel foolish.

You don't know how to evaluate the game and you're a fanboy for whatever SUM/ USSF tells you to believe. According to the experts, Morris is barely a top 40 played in MLS. This is according to an objective group of global experts. Listen to other ppl than the ones that make you feel good and learn football.


Valuing all players no matter what league they play in in not being a fanboy it's called having an open mind and evaluating players on their talent not what league they play in only like you do.
How Brian Kleiban evaluates is not beyond my understanding at all, and you're the clown. You're the guy who doesn't know how to evaluate players at all always wanting to start the 3rd string guys playing in Bulgaria. Once again other than mentioning one guy who is not a scout you still have not given one credible source to back up your original post. You do a lot of mud slinging and calling me names but it all comes back to simply your opinion with zero backup. You said there were multiple scouts and professionals who said the things you posted, You have provided no evidence other than Brian Kleiban. I accept him as a professional that pointed out some flaws with Morris, but no where near the list you posted. I think it's funny that your post are always full of things that I never said and then you try to berate me for them. Do you even read my post? I think you have a reading comprehension problem.

bjelks
Post #89
Friday October 23, 2020 5:14pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from hamsamwich

Sabbi isn't playing at a top tier level. Mid tier sure. I'm a Chicago guy so I'm not complaining if Sabbi plays I just think Dest is better technically and plays against better competition. I'm not against Sabbi but not all for it either.


I think Weah, Konrad and Uly are all better players than a Sabbi, but if guys wanna haggle over minutes and form we can throw Sabbi out there.

Dest is a natural right back. He's most useful to us as a right back. When you take him away from right back you take away his strength as a player and hurt the team.
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bjelks
Post #90
Friday October 23, 2020 5:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Valuing all players no matter what league they play in in not being a fanboy it's called having an open mind and evaluating players on their talent not what league they play in only like you do.
How Brian Kleiban evaluates is not beyond my understanding at all, and you're the clown. You're the guy who doesn't know how to evaluate players at all always wanting to start the 3rd string guys playing in Bulgaria. Once again other than mentioning one guy who is not a scout you still have not given one credible source to back up your original post. You do a lot of mud slinging and calling me names but it all comes back to simply your opinion with zero backup. You said there were multiple scouts and professionals who said the things you posted, You have provided no evidence other than Brian Kleiban. I accept him as a professional that pointed out some flaws with Morris, but no where near the list you posted. I think it's funny that your post are always full of things that I never said and then you try to berate me for them. Do you even read my post? I think you have a reading comprehension problem.


Yes when you value all players the same it discredits how fucking hard it is to play at higher levels you fanboy clown. If that was the case CP to Chelsea for 60mil wouldn't be a big deal.

If level doesn't matter, then we should pick guys from park leagues.

Dude I pointed out all Morris' limitations and I told your simple ass why he can't translate to higher levels.

Then I picked guys that have profiles that do translate to higher levels in mls, stop being a fucking clown. Your dumbass is the reason our program is a joke.

Look at who makes it to WC semis and where they play.

Nobody mentioned 3rd tier Bulgaria you fucking idiot.

I mentioned Transfermarkt for the 100th time, who the fuck do you think does their player valuations? Actual scouts and market analysts you simple ass.

And again, I told you Morris has been linked to PNE a mid tier EFL side, Euro scouts see him as a mid tier player. If he was better, he would be linked to better clubs.

I'm convinced you're trolling and being stupid for sport, you don't know shit, you make up shit like Bulgaria and continue to discredit anything that mls/sum/ USSF employees don't say.

I could give 2 shits about your dumbass fanboy agenda, every time you say something egregiously wrong I'll be here to remind you how much of a dumbfuck you are and how useless your opinion is.
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