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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #166
Friday October 30, 2020 4:15am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from Know Nothing

Oh well, so much for my advice.


Yep, as I said before. Profanity and name calling are the attempt of a weak mind to assert itself forcefully.

bjelks
Post #167
Friday October 30, 2020 4:18am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I said I am not apologizing for GB and that I didn't want him as the coach. I then went on about how you make stuff up. GB failings stand on there own so you don't need to do your usual hyperbole and outright lies.

Also you continue to name call, ha ha, it's the sign of a weak mind to have to resort to name calling to attempt to prove a point.

You absolutely make up most of what you posted. Go ahead and back up the ones where you stated, "Greg said", because he never said any of that stuff.

I know your not going to back any of it up just like every time I call you out. You will deflect and probably call me more names and fanboy etc. But you will not provide one link to back up your lies as none exist.

Liars annoy me, which is why you annoy me so much.


I'm using names because you're fucking ignorant and you boldface lie every post.

I cannot communicate with you without calling you a bitch because you throw out all fact, reason and logic.

All you do is make up whatever fits your fanboy narrative and get more stupid with every post.

It's still fuck off, you sellout cunt
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bjelks
Post #168
Friday October 30, 2020 4:20am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Yep, as I said before. Profanity and name calling are the attempt of a weak mind to assert itself forcefully.


So you can be a bitch, clueless and a liar but it's mean to call you one lol?
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Samtom23
Post #169
Friday October 30, 2020 5:17am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 510
Original post from bjelks

How can we evaluate how they play as a team without the right guys on the field?


That's the fundamental problem-we only have three players that are considered great talents-Pulisic, Dest and Reyna.

Everyone else has some sort of question mark.

hamsamwich
Post #170
Friday October 30, 2020 6:11am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
Consider the national team of France. They have a wide range of players they can call in, and they are at their best when their best options are there. But they still run the same system with cohesion when they have a lesser squad. Take Costa Rica for example- whether it's their A list team or it's just a bunch of guys from saprissa and alajuelense they still run the same passing triangles and know where the other guy is. A coach can look competent with his b list players it happens all the time. Those are the moments when the players can actually be under the microscope. I'm sorry but running out the Mexico game as why Morris sucks isn't a good example. The story from that game was Gregg demanding the players play it out of the back- and Steffen and the defenders and holding midfielder couldn't do it. There was never an attack to criticize because the ball never got out of our own penalty box or half the entire game. When the system has cohesion it's because the coach has the players understanding what he's doing. It's how Poppovich got the spurs to win all the time with guys that got cut everywhere else. Same with Belichick. It's not about the players it's about the coach and his system. I get it the players that get called in is your pet thing @bjelks- but there's more ways to look at it.

Regarding Mueller- he was disserved similar to many Chicago kids like Sabbi, Mihailovic, Maher, Sierakowski, and many others who were developed well at a young age by the Magic, Sockers and Fire- but the lack of a competitive development environment (a USL 2 team like all the other mls teams have) and pathway to the pros set many of those guys back. University of Wisconsin soccer plus Fire PDL just wasn't enough for Mueller, he should've had his chance to do this 3-4 years ago. Finally the Fire are making better decisions so hopefully players like Monis, Brady and Gutierrez are better than the Pineda brothers and Djordje. Mueller was lucky the Fire didn't draft him although they could use him. I love his awareness and tenacity.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #171
Friday October 30, 2020 8:32am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

I'm using names because you're fucking ignorant and you boldface lie every post.

I cannot communicate with you without calling you a bitch because you throw out all fact, reason and logic.

All you do is make up whatever fits your fanboy narrative and get more stupid with every post.

It's still fuck off, you sellout cunt


You make ridiculous/uninformed opinions and call them fact. You say players, coaches, and scouts say things they don't say. You say other posters post things they don't.

I call you out time and time again and you have yet to prove even one point. I keep asking you to link to any proof and your response is always to deflect ,attack and call names.

I tell you I just get sick of you eternal lying which is why I started doing it.

AND YOUR GIANT COMEBACK IS TO CALL ME A LAIR BACK,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

again, prove it, I have proven you a liar several times. You always just change the subject and don't answer the question.

bjelks
Post #172
Friday October 30, 2020 11:52am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

You make ridiculous/uninformed opinions and call them fact. You say players, coaches, and scouts say things they don't say. You say other posters post things they don't.

I call you out time and time again and you have yet to prove even one point. I keep asking you to link to any proof and your response is always to deflect ,attack and call names.

I tell you I just get sick of you eternal lying which is why I started doing it.

AND YOUR GIANT COMEBACK IS TO CALL ME A LAIR BACK,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

again, prove it, I have proven you a liar several times. You always just change the subject and don't answer the question.


I don't have to prove to you shit that we all know is fact.

I'm not responsible for you being willfully ignorant and a complete dumbass.

Gregg has called and played Lima, Lovitz, Gasper, Zimmerman, Omar G, Corey Baird, Chris Roldan, Will Trapp, Lletget, Zardes, Washed Bradley, Washed Jozy, Yueill, JMo

You can't dispute that Gregg called any of these guys

Gregg has left out Fabian, Chandler, Morales, Holmes, Miazga, Julian Green, Novakovich, EPB, CCV.

Gregg also played Tyler Adams at inverted right back to make room for washed Bradley.

If you don't know these things as fact, then again you shouldn't be discussing the USMNT.
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bjelks
Post #173
Friday October 30, 2020 11:57am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Samtom23

That's the fundamental problem-we only have three players that are considered great talents-Pulisic, Dest and Reyna.

Everyone else has some sort of question mark.


I'm sorry dude I can't agree with that. I don't know who said that or why it's credible.
I don't know what makes Dest a more credible player than Antonee or Reyna a more credible player than Adams or Mckennie

Or any of them more credible than Brooks. Why are Sargent and Richards, Miazga. CCV, EPB not good. I'm sorry I don't agree with your assessment of the pool. How is Tim Weah not good?
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bjelks
Post #174
Friday October 30, 2020 12:02pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from hamsamwich

Consider the national team of France. They have a wide range of players they can call in, and they are at their best when their best options are there. But they still run the same system with cohesion when they have a lesser squad. Take Costa Rica for example- whether it's their A list team or it's just a bunch of guys from saprissa and alajuelense they still run the same passing triangles and know where the other guy is. A coach can look competent with his b list players it happens all the time. Those are the moments when the players can actually be under the microscope. I'm sorry but running out the Mexico game as why Morris sucks isn't a good example. The story from that game was Gregg demanding the players play it out of the back- and Steffen and the defenders and holding midfielder couldn't do it. There was never an attack to criticize because the ball never got out of our own penalty box or half the entire game. When the system has cohesion it's because the coach has the players understanding what he's doing. It's how Poppovich got the spurs to win all the time with guys that got cut everywhere else. Same with Belichick. It's not about the players it's about the coach and his system. I get it the players that get called in is your pet thing @bjelks- but there's more ways to look at it.

Regarding Mueller- he was disserved similar to many Chicago kids like Sabbi, Mihailovic, Maher, Sierakowski, and many others who were developed well at a young age by the Magic, Sockers and Fire- but the lack of a competitive development environment (a USL 2 team like all the other mls teams have) and pathway to the pros set many of those guys back. University of Wisconsin soccer plus Fire PDL just wasn't enough for Mueller, he should've had his chance to do this 3-4 years ago. Finally the Fire are making better decisions so hopefully players like Monis, Brady and Gutierrez are better than the Pineda brothers and Djordje. Mueller was lucky the Fire didn't draft him although they could use him. I love his awareness and tenacity.


Morris doesn't suck because of Canada lol.

Morris sucks because he can't cut in

Morris sucks because he only dribbles when defenders are behind him

Morris sucks because his first touch under pressure is shaky

Morris sucks because he can't shoot from range on either foot

Morris sucks because he can't positively combine in tight spaces

Morris sucks because his his technique is shaky and his quality is limited

Morris sucks because he has lots of holes in his game that you choose to ignore
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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #175
Friday October 30, 2020 1:11pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,117
Original post from bjelks

I don't have to prove to you shit that we all know is fact.

I'm not responsible for you being willfully ignorant and a complete dumbass.

Gregg has called and played Lima, Lovitz, Gasper, Zimmerman, Omar G, Corey Baird, Chris Roldan, Will Trapp, Lletget, Zardes, Washed Bradley, Washed Jozy, Yueill, JMo

You can't dispute that Gregg called any of these guys

Gregg has left out Fabian, Chandler, Morales, Holmes, Miazga, Julian Green, Novakovich, EPB, CCV.

Gregg also played Tyler Adams at inverted right back to make room for washed Bradley.

If you don't know these things as fact, then again you shouldn't be discussing the USMNT.


I never disputed who Gregg called or didn't call, not once. NO idea why you keep arguing it? You don't seem to have the ability to comprehend simple English. You rant about something that I wasn't even talking about then act like you have just proven something. I never even talked about what you ranted about. So again you have provided nothing to back up your outlandish claims. again you deflect away from what I originally called you out on.

hamsamwich
Post #176
Friday October 30, 2020 1:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
I said Mexico. It's your default position. That he couldn't create against mexico. Once again you make it about Jordan's morris and player selection. That's your pet deal.

I'm very critical of Gregg. But you can't list a bunch of Americans that get called up to January camp like they are pillars of the team. Come on.

hamsamwich
Post #177
Friday October 30, 2020 4:37pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,537
To ignore the coaching aspect of it is ridiculous. Adams has been hurt. Weah too. And Pulisic. So by an extension of your logic it's fair to say Gregg hasn't had his best team available for selection. And if that's your criteria that he can't be evaluated without his best players available then your position is hollow. You're supporting Gregg with your argument in a way that you don't see.

bjelks
Post #178
Friday October 30, 2020 5:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I never disputed who Gregg called or didn't call, not once. NO idea why you keep arguing it? You don't seem to have the ability to comprehend simple English. You rant about something that I wasn't even talking about then act like you have just proven something. I never even talked about what you ranted about. So again you have provided nothing to back up your outlandish claims. again you deflect away from what I originally called you out on.


All I've ever talked about is Gregg's shitty mls biased player evaluations and complete incompetence in picking a team and how he's time and time again ignored or dismissed deserving South American and Euro players.

That's all I've ever talked about. I'm saying it clear as day. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you mention outlandish claims. I could tell you the sky is blue and water is wet and you'd say I'm making outlandish claims. I'm over this bullshit.

Make a specific point and support it with evidence or move the fuck around
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bjelks
Post #179
Friday October 30, 2020 5:27pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
Original post from hamsamwich

To ignore the coaching aspect of it is ridiculous. Adams has been hurt. Weah too. And Pulisic. So by an extension of your logic it's fair to say Gregg hasn't had his best team available for selection. And if that's your criteria that he can't be evaluated without his best players available then your position is hollow. You're supporting Gregg with your argument in a way that you don't see.


No man you're missing the importance of evaluating the entire pool and getting the best depth pieces involved. I've listed all these depth pieces that Gregg has dismissed that could produce results but you're not interested in that convo.

We're no better than the gap between our stars and weak links. There's a big difference between EPB, Miazga, CCV and Omar, Long, Zman.

There's a difference between J Green and Roldan or Lletget

There's a difference between Morales and Trapp

To not acknowledge that is a crime

If you put shitty players out there it doesn't matter what the tactics are
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bjelks
Post #180
Friday October 30, 2020 5:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,910
[quote]Original post from hamsamwich

I said Mexico. It's your default position. That he couldn't create against mexico. Once again you make it about Jordan's morris and player selection. That's your pet deal.

I'm very critical of Gregg. But you can't list a bunch of Americans that get called up to January camp like they are pillars of the team. Come on.[/quote

My position is Mexico, away Canada, mls against Portland and LAFC, any game where his lack of creativity and technical quality are exposed

I've graded him completely, his problems are much more than Mexico it's his limitations as a player

Dude Gregg consistently used players from January and shitted on guys at higher levels he quoted that these are my guys, I want continuity

Let's stop the apologizing and excuses for his fuckups
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