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Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #1
Sunday November 18, 2012 11:06pm

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I'm sitting here watching Ben Olsen on the sidelines of the DC playoff game I was remembering how great of a player he was before his career was cut short by injuries. So here is the question: Which American players could have really made a difference for the Nats if they hadn't been plagued by injuries?

John O'Brien: for me Johnny O' could have been the best US player ever had his career not been cut short by a string of injuries.

Charlie Davies: His story is sad to me. I wonder however, if his immaturity would have gotten the better of him professionally even if he hadn't gotten in the wreck.

Ben Olsen: He was one of the first American players to grace SI magazine's cover. He was going to be America's first big star before he had a million knee injuries

Clint Matthis: A lot of people may forget the tear Cleetus was on with the Nats during qualifying before he injured his knee (i think it was a knee). There were quite a few big clubs wanting his service with Bayern being the most likely winner. Like all of the players above he came back and played, even scoring in the WC, but he was never the same.
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Bshredder
Post #2
Sunday November 18, 2012 11:19pm

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Cory Gibbs was outstanding before knee injuries took their toll early in their career. He never came close to being the player he was pre-injuries

Bruce Murray's career was cut short well before he was 30

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Sunday November 18, 2012 11:39pm

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Pone has to wonder if Holden will be on this list as well.

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #4
Monday November 19, 2012 1:08am

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Forgot about Gibbs

2Tone I sure hope not, but logic would certainly say yes.
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #5
Tuesday November 20, 2012 2:40am

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JOB....hands down. If Holden has one more serious injury, he will be 2nd on my list.

Bshredder
Post #6
Tuesday November 20, 2012 4:05am

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People forget what a huge loss Gibbs was. Dude was on his way to being a total stud in the backline for the US. He would have started in central defense in both 2006 and 2010. He would have been a massive improvement for each World Cup team.

He was a much better passer than Gooch, Boca, DeMerit or Pope

I know he eventually came back but it wasn't the same. It was a Davies-level drop off.

Michael Hoyos was a sad story too. I know he was playing for Argentina's U20 team. Because of that car accident, he's not even good enough for the USA anymore at any level. He got married young at 19 and had a kid.. then he had the accident. Awful stuff.

ewalcott
Michigan
Post #7
Tuesday November 20, 2012 4:07pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Coach Kev

Forgot about Gibbs

2Tone I sure hope not, but logic would certainly say yes.


Are you saying you think it likely that Holden will have another serious injury? If so, that's unfair. I don't get why people are saying he's injury prone, etc. Guys who are injury prone get minor injuries and end up out way longer than they should, or they continuously pick up minor injuries over and over (See Abou Diaby at Arsenal - he pullls a hammy and he's out a season). Holden hasn't suffered from any of those minor/nagging injuries, he's bee destroyed by bad injuries from horrible tackles.
Yes, it's frustrating that it's taken so long to get healthy, but I think it's really unfair to think that Holden is injury-prone.

_Dw_
Post #8
Tuesday November 20, 2012 4:58pm

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Original post from ewalcott

Are you saying you think it likely that Holden will have another serious injury? If so, that's unfair. I don't get why people are saying he's injury prone, etc. Guys who are injury prone get minor injuries and end up out way longer than they should, or they continuously pick up minor injuries over and over (See Abou Diaby at Arsenal - he pullls a hammy and he's out a season). Holden hasn't suffered from any of those minor/nagging injuries, he's bee destroyed by bad injuries from horrible tackles.
Yes, it's frustrating that it's taken so long to get healthy, but I think it's really unfair to think that Holden is injury-prone.


I disagree with your viewpoint. Regardless of how he is injured, if he is injured alot than he is injury prone. It is like injuries find him even though it's not his fault. He is a player that is prone to injury. So it really isn't unfair to call him injury prone.

ewalcott
Michigan
Post #9
Tuesday November 20, 2012 5:02pm

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Is being hurt by vicious tackles prone to injury? Or just unlucky?

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #10
Tuesday November 20, 2012 5:07pm

Joined Oct 2012
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@ewalcott
I don't think that is what Kev was saying. I think he meant that Stu could certainly be on this list because he has had injuries and if he had not been sidelined with them that he would have made a big impression on the national team. He was also saying that as it stands currently, Stu is having trouble getting back to his best. Like him I too am hoping that Stu would not be on this list permanently, but for the last few years certainly so. But I agree with you, his injuries have been terrible challenges on him and it is not necessarily that he is injury prone.
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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #11
Tuesday November 20, 2012 5:10pm

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Original post from _Dw_

I disagree with your viewpoint. Regardless of how he is injured, if he is injured alot than he is injury prone. It is like injuries find him even though it's not his fault. He is a player that is prone to injury. So it really isn't unfair to call him injury prone.

As far as I know it has only been two serious injuries. From two pretty vicious players at that. I wouldn't call two injuries "injury prone" just unlucky. Especially at the severity of the injuries.
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Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #12
Tuesday November 20, 2012 5:19pm

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yeah, I wasn't saying he was injury prone or even that he would get injured again. I was just saying that if he was unable to come back at the same level that he belongs high on this list.

Bshredder I totally agree about Gibbs. He however was injury prone. He grew up in the town I lived in in South Fla and played with the son of a coworker. She said he was oft injured in high school as well. Too bad.
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ewalcott
Michigan
Post #13
Tuesday November 20, 2012 5:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I kinda figured that's what you meant, but still wanted to address the larger issue that people seem to keep bringing up.

Btw, anyone have any update on when he's supposed to be back for Bolton?

bbakerxyz
Post #14
Tuesday November 20, 2012 6:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
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JOB.

That was so sad to see him in the 2006 WC. He had no business being there. I guess Bruce was just hoping he would become miraculously cured somehow before the games started.

camparkinson
Post #15
Wednesday November 21, 2012 12:53am

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John O'Brien by a long shot, he was such a great player and would have done so much for the teams he should have been a part of.

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