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2tone
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Post #61
Saturday October 3, 2020 4:13pm

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Not sold on Sargent as the USMNT starter. Would really like to see ArJo start.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #62
Saturday October 3, 2020 4:17pm

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And I definitely would start Morris at striker over Sargent right now

bjelks
Post #63
Saturday October 3, 2020 4:40pm

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Original post from 2tone

And I definitely would start Morris at striker over Sargent right now


Lol of course you would, but why not the top usl striker?
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hamsamwich
Post #64
Saturday October 3, 2020 4:58pm

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That's two starts row wins for Bremen with sargent as the focal point for Bremen. His hold up play, layoffs, and dropping deep to link play were effective. High energy effort once again for Sargent he looked good out there. I can easily see him playing in a similar role for the USA with players like Pulisic, Reyna, Weah, Morris all being able to combine with him and get him behind. I enjoyed what I saw from him today.

Johansson is there if we need him and potentially better in a role on the team with more space sort of where the coach is playing Pulisic, Uly, Morris. I don't see him holding up as a lone central striker in physical concacaf and onto the World Cup. As a 10 or inside forward, maybe.

I think Morris is a good option to come off the bench protecting a lead where he can use his speed on the counterattack. It's an important role and one I think he would be good at. I don't see him as a starting central forward right now. He doesn't play there for his club and is more effective in space. He would have none as the starting striker. Maybe later as the other team pushes forward and the game opens up.

Dave
Post #65
Saturday October 3, 2020 5:09pm

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As much as I like Sargent and believe he deserves to be in the in the conversation for the USMNT's starting striker...he still has a lot to prove.
Currently the USMNT does not have anyone who's the complete package, so for me they should be looking/selecting strikers who can fulfill specific rolls based on what the opposition is going to give us. That's why I think there will alternating starters and subs...

Sargent - Holdup play, technical ability, and decent combination with the other attackers.
Morris - Physicality and ability to stretch the field
Zardes - High Pressure, High energy and stretches the field
ArJo - Technical possession and interlinking play.
Jozy - Physicality & Experience.

Right now against most teams I'd start either Sargent or Morris and depending on the tactics used against us and how the game is going make a substitution around the 60 min mark based on what tactical changes are needed.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #66
Saturday October 3, 2020 7:22pm

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Most people don't watch Seattle much. Morris hold up play and combination play is on par with a Sargent. Sargent needs to step up his production.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #67
Saturday October 3, 2020 7:23pm

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Original post from bjelks

Lol of course you would, but why not the top usl striker?


Lol. That's a logical fallacy. Nice try though.

Dave
Post #68
Saturday October 3, 2020 8:29pm

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Original post from 2tone

Most people don't watch Seattle much. Morris hold up play and combination play is on par with a Sargent. Sargent needs to step up his production.

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Haven't seen enough of either to get a really accurate comparison, or give 1 the nod over the other. I will say that Morris has improved his holdup & combination play significantly over the last 2 yrs....but he's still behind Sargent on technical ability.
Sargent still needs to improve his ruthlessness & productivity in front of goal, but I don't think he'll ever match Morris's speed and ability to stretch the field.

hamsamwich
Post #69
Saturday October 3, 2020 8:49pm

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I've seen parts of the first three bundesliga games with espn+. Also most saturdays I watch the mls also on espn+. I've seen the sounders play I think four times this year. Twice vs Chicago, and once each against the la teams. And maybe once more during the mls is back tournament. Every time I see them they look every bit the super team of MLS that they have been. And credit to Morris for being an integral part of that. But a lot of people have wondered ever since he turned down the chance to go to Werder Bremen (ironically where Sargent wound up a few years later) what it would be like if Morris challenged himself? He does well on Seattle but would he be good on Nashville? Maybe, maybe not. Would he start in the bundesliga? Maybe, maybe not. I know he is faster and smarter and better than most of the garbage MLS defenders and defending systems he plays against but to compare the defenders each guy plays against on a weekly basis (disregarding the fact that Seattle is better than its comp where Bremen is worse) is just proving the point that Morris had (and still has a chance) to prove himself at a higher level. I'm lad he can score against Mauricio Pineda and Francisco Calvo but it's a basic level of defending. MLS has gotten better attacking players and the Americans have improved across the board but I don't think there are many good defenders in the league at all. Ike Opara stands out amongst the rest for a reason.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #70
Thursday October 8, 2020 1:35am

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Akinola stock continues to rise. 8th goal of the season. With the technicians behind him and with his pace and power and intelligent movement it could be fun to watch him with the USMNT.

stoked-3
Post #71
Thursday October 8, 2020 1:59am

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Original post from 2tone

Akinola stock continues to rise. 8th goal of the season. With the technicians behind him and with his pace and power and intelligent movement it could be fun to watch him with the USMNT.

But he wants to play with Canada so let him-its a shame bc he could be someone we could use. great pace-but if your heart is not with us then better to let him go -if we wants to play with us and we dont have to twist him are to do so then i would say call him up in Nov

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #72
Thursday October 8, 2020 4:12am

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He hasn't said that. He just hasn't ruled any option off the table. Which is his right.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #73
Thursday October 8, 2020 4:13am

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Morris with another goal. Makes 8 goals and 7 assists on the year. Which is a damn good year so far.

blaise213
Post #74
Thursday October 8, 2020 8:42am

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Original post from 2tone

Morris with another goal. Makes 8 goals and 7 assists on the year. Which is a damn good year so far.


I do like Morris but the MLS defenses are garbage. Watched the quakes tonight and their 2 goals would've never been scored in a higher quality league.

bjelks
Post #75
Thursday October 8, 2020 1:34pm

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Original post from blaise213

I do like Morris but the MLS defenses are garbage. Watched the quakes tonight and their 2 goals would've never been scored in a higher quality league.


Outside of his pretty eyes and hair, what is their to like about Morris?

You guys get more excited about him scoring against barely professional players than you do about Pulisic scoring against the best players in the world lol.

Coincidence, I don't think so...
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