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hamsamwich
Post #46
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:50pm

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@cleancutimage- he's got very poor service and I don't see where Bremen have improved that. It does look like a lot of hard work with not so good results in the goal column again. I expect just about 10 goals from him and I think that's realistic. He should be a little stronger so he doesn't miss as much time as he did last year. Bremen needs to start the year better so there's not so much pressure on them. I'd love it if Josh could see the national team as a place where the shackles come off, he plays with more freedom and fun, and he has better teammates relative to the opposition than he does at Bremen. That would get the best out of him while also forcing him to work on his not so strong elements of his game at the club level. Because he's still learning how to poach in the box, rather than use his athleticism and combination play. Big year.

cleancutimage
Post #47
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:02pm

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He is definitely a striker that needs good service unfortunately. He has shown good enough footwork at times to create his own chances. Hopefully he can continue to work on that but when you are a traditional 9, that relies heavily on service than it is feast or famine. I hope they see him as their striker of the future and start to develop around him. I did watch quite a few games and saw that they play very narrow and sometimes the players were clueless to their positioning or they were too close to each other leading a defender to be able to defend two people at once.

hamsamwich
Post #48
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:30pm

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I think Josh can combine with the American players he basically grew up with (Weah, etc) better than he can his club squad at Bremen. As long as he stays healthy and gets minutes and mental reps, it's a net positive in my book. Adams, Reyna, Pulisic and these guys- they believe in Josh and his game and that's what's important. Support from your guys.

cleancutimage
Post #49
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:47pm

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So basically at the moment, he is another Jozy Altidore. Poor connection with his club mates but bangs in goals when he comes with the National team. I hope for more goals at the club level but as long as he still scores for the US. I can't be too disappointed.

hamsamwich
Post #50
Thursday September 10, 2020 9:29pm

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I think Weah can potentially challenge him in a few years time when we have a full slate of guys that can play that wide forward spot. Right now I don't see how Josh can't succeed with Pulisic and Weah alongside him. He will get the ball to those guys better than Zardes will, yet provide more overall than Jozy. I'm a big fan of Jozy who got very unlucky with injuries at key moments for the USA. I think Gregg wants the attacking shared amongst the front three, a few midfielders and at times both the outside backs. I don't think he has to have Josh score all the goals. If he fits in with what everyone else is doing that's enough. But clearly Sargent needs to create more for himself...

cleancutimage
Post #51
Thursday September 10, 2020 9:59pm

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Original post from hamsamwich

I think Weah can potentially challenge him in a few years time when we have a full slate of guys that can play that wide forward spot. Right now I don't see how Josh can't succeed with Pulisic and Weah alongside him. He will get the ball to those guys better than Zardes will, yet provide more overall than Jozy. I'm a big fan of Jozy who got very unlucky with injuries at key moments for the USA. I think Gregg wants the attacking shared amongst the front three, a few midfielders and at times both the outside backs. I don't think he has to have Josh score all the goals. If he fits in with what everyone else is doing that's enough. But clearly Sargent needs to create more for himself...


Weah has to stay fit first. That hamstring strain might be the most damaging injury in sports. Once that is compromised, an athlete is never the same. He is my favorite player in the pool, I hope he can reach his potential and sustain it but it will be tough with that type of injury. Muscle pulls in the legs are career-enders.

hamsamwich
Post #52
Thursday September 10, 2020 10:08pm

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thats why I said in a few years. He would need to get stronger and be able to handle the bigger beating he would receive. Weah plays best in space for my money, right now. But maybe in a few years, post 2022 he and Josh sort of carry that spot forward.

cleancutimage
Post #53
Thursday September 10, 2020 11:11pm

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I just hope that they are quick starters. This quarantine is bad timing for any year but especially for this cycle with so much uncertainty. Definitely hampered the development of many young players with the national team. Like you said the cohesion was there are the youth levels but will in transition to the senior level. I hope Berhalter is seeing the youth movement more than ever now. Yes, the first goal is qualify for 2022 but we need to be multi-tasking and getting the young players minutes at the same time.

Dave
Post #54
Friday September 11, 2020 3:36am

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I hate myself for saying this, but If we had a must win game tomorrow I would probably start either Jozy or Zardes with Sargent as the back-up. But some of that is because MLS has already had competitive games, while the European Leagues are just coming out of Pre-Season.
2 Months from now I'm hoping that Sargent is in a good run of form and can claim that top striker position with Morris as his back-up and Jozy/Zardes put out to pasture.
The reason I think this might happen is because Weah is back healthy & Uli is getting interest from a Dutch club for a loan. If these 2 step up as back-ups to Pulisic & Reyna than the only option for Morris is to go back to that central forward roll he started at.
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And yes I know Reyna could be the ACM....but like Weah...for the moment I prefer him out wide and cutting in. He'll have more space to operate and will help spread the field. The opposition won't be able to cheat defensively if they need to be concerned with Pulisic & Reyna on either flank and someone like Aaronson as the central ACM.

Samtom23
Post #55
Friday September 11, 2020 8:20am

Joined Jun 2018
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Original post from Dave

I hate myself for saying this, but If we had a must win game tomorrow I would probably start either Jozy or Zardes with Sargent as the back-up. But some of that is because MLS has already had competitive games, while the European Leagues are just coming out of Pre-Season.
2 Months from now I'm hoping that Sargent is in a good run of form and can claim that top striker position with Morris as his back-up and Jozy/Zardes put out to pasture.
The reason I think this might happen is because Weah is back healthy & Uli is getting interest from a Dutch club for a loan. If these 2 step up as back-ups to Pulisic & Reyna than the only option for Morris is to go back to that central forward roll he started at.
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And yes I know Reyna could be the ACM....but like Weah...for the moment I prefer him out wide and cutting in. He'll have more space to operate and will help spread the field. The opposition won't be able to cheat defensively if they need to be concerned with Pulisic & Reyna on either flank and someone like Aaronson as the central ACM.


I can agree with keeping Reyna out wide for the time being. I see Aaronson and also LLedzma as ACM, who I hopes also breaks out this year. I think most of this have this idea where we want Sargent to grab the reins away from Xardes. I will discount Jozy because health seems to be an issue this year and I cannot see it changing in the future. I am also of the mind (Clean cut image) that Weah is one of our more exciting players provided he comes back healthy. I think he will actually.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #56
Sunday September 13, 2020 12:40am

Joined May 2013
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Goal for Sargent in the DFB Pokal

https://twitter.com/usmntonly/status/13048719...

Bundesliga starts next Saturday

hamsamwich
Post #57
Tuesday September 15, 2020 6:20pm

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I'm not sure anyone has mentioned some of the younger dual nationals: I don't have any hope for Balogun, but I will say it seems like Malick Sanogo wants to be an American player. This guy lit up the German u17 league this past year for Union Berlin- and will play u19 ball. The thing is there is no Union Berlin 2, meaning that if Sanogo keeps balling out the only place to go would be the Bundesliga. I believe he is 16 or 17 right now which is the same age as some of our other top players have debuted. Very special player. His father was a striker for I believe Ivory Coast (Boubacar Sanogo) and it makes me think his mother must be American. I'd love to see him on the u20 squad if there is one just to see what he's got and how he fits in with the other top talent.

Dave
Post #58
Wednesday September 16, 2020 2:59am

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@ hamsamwich - the name has been brought up (Malick), and if he's not in consideration for the U-20 (possibly U-23) teams than there is something really wrong with our scouting. Gioacchini is another name that's been brought up....and there was talk he'd have been called in for the March Friendlies in Europe if they hadn't been cancelled.
Problem now is that with so little time remaining before Qualifying it's going to be difficult for too many new names/faces to get a chance.
We're most likely going to have to continue on with Sargent, Morris, Zardes, & Jozy for the immediate future. We might get a new name/face at the Gold Cup, but time is running out.

hamsamwich
Post #59
Wednesday September 16, 2020 5:31am

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I'm fine with the three established players we have getting the run out. I just want to continue to see (I think this is one thing Gregg has done relatively well using guys like Llanez, Harper, Kayo for example) the young and very talented player sget their chance. Malick and Ricardo Pepi are the two young guys gunning for that next in line and I'd like to see if they can pull off what Sargent and Jozy (but not Zardes) did before them: tear up the u20 World Cup up an age group. Baby steps for 2021 u20s, but with a whole year and a half until the actual World Cup they'd still theoretically have a chance. The late winter World Cup of December 2022 still gives our guys two full seasons from today plus a month or two to get into a first team at a good club and they are in the ring with a punchers chance. It's a mid season World Cup anything could happen.

hamsamwich
Post #60
Saturday October 3, 2020 2:31pm

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Third start in a row for Sargent, second in a row up top as the central forward.

Soto got a brace the other day for Telstar in the Dutch second division.

Giaocchini (who may be a Jamaican dual..?) been starting every game for Caen.

Haji Wright starting and scored in Denmark.

Johansson still scoring and being slightly visible.

Haven't checked up on Novakovich.

Hoppe has a lot of work to do, but poor strikers ahead of him on the senior team at Schalke.

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