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Post #1
Thursday August 13, 2020 4:45am

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Novakovich with game winner today for Frosinone in the semifinal of the promotion playoffs to move on to the final for promotion To Serie A. Might be time to bring Nova back into the USMNT. It was a really good goal.

Samtom23
Post #2
Thursday August 13, 2020 5:05am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 426
Original post from 2tone

Novakovich with game winner today for Frosinone in the semifinal of the promotion playoffs to move on to the final for promotion To Serie A. Might be time to bring Nova back into the USMNT. It was a really good goal.


Hopefully, he makes it to Serie A. I don't think he had the greatest of years but he came thru when needed. On the radar considering the problems at forward.

bjelks
Post #3
Thursday August 13, 2020 12:49pm

Joined Nov 2012
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It was time to bring in Nova 2 yrs ago when he scored 10 goals in Eredivisie.
He's had 13 goal involvements in 33 games and been key to a Serie A promotion push. He's been fine. He just hasn't been seen as good enough to reduce the mls quota by the experts running the program who have never accomplished anything of significance.
goalsense
Lilshmike
Post #4
Thursday August 13, 2020 4:21pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,455
Original post from bjelks

It was time to bring in Nova 2 yrs ago when he scored 10 goals in Eredivisie.
He's had 13 goal involvements in 33 games and been key to a Serie A promotion push. He's been fine. He just hasn't been seen as good enough to reduce the mls quota by the experts running the program who have never accomplished anything of significance.
Earnie Stewart, who played in Eredivisie and is a veteran of 3 world cups...

Gregg Berhalter, who played in the Eredivisie, Premier League, and Bundesliga and is a veteran of 2 world cups...

Yeah, they've never accomplished anything of significance. Btw, what have you accomplished?

hamsamwich
Post #5
Thursday August 13, 2020 4:53pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Novakovich has always been a big midwestern kid with good feet and an eye for the goal. He's making a name for himself. One more game to go.....

Samtom23
Post #6
Thursday August 13, 2020 5:21pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 426
Original post from bjelks

It was time to bring in Nova 2 yrs ago when he scored 10 goals in Eredivisie.
He's had 13 goal involvements in 33 games and been key to a Serie A promotion push. He's been fine. He just hasn't been seen as good enough to reduce the mls quota by the experts running the program who have never accomplished anything of significance.


ESPN

Uncovered: The Truth Behind the USMNT

August 13th, 2020

By Taylor Twellmen

Many of us having watched, cheered and ultimately agonized over the USMNT failures since not qualifying for the 2018 World Cup. But why in a nation populated with approximately 360 million, why can't we find 23 players that can kick the ball with their feet? This reporter and former USMNT went in search of the answers.

My search lead me to interview a guru of soccer knowledgegure and message board warrior that goes by the name, Bjelks. Let's go ahead and begin our question and answer session.

TT: Bjelks, why is that the USMNT struggle so much recently?

Bjelks: Well, Taylor. It is because the quota system put in place by USMNT and MLS.

TT: WHAT? There is quota system. Tell me, more.

Bjelks: Yes, the USMNT works together with MLS to support pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes that play in MLS.

TT: WHAT? Wait! What about Gyasi Xardes, Jozy Altidore, Cristan Roldan, Jonathan Lewis, Tyler Adams, Weston Mckennie, Miles Robinson, and any other player of non-Caucasian descent that got called in? How do you explain this?

Bjelks: Yes, there is your proof. These players are clearly pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes. I don't need to explain it to any further than that.

TT: I don't get it.

Bjelks: That is because you know nothing about football and are a Monday monda!

TT: I played for many years even for USMNT.

Bjelks: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. If it isn't European and it is doesn't have PRO/REL it is not worthy of time and consideration.

TT: Can you give an example?

Bjelks: Yes, Andrija Novakovich. He had thirteen goal involvements in this year and should've been called in two years ago when he had ten goals in a Scandavian League.

TT: Yes, I can see a Caucasian that plays internationally not being called in fits this quota. But what do you mean 13 goal involvements?

Bjelks: I mean he was involved in 13 goals.

TT: Scored 13?

Bjelks: He scored 5 goals and had 8 assists in 34 appearances.

TT: Why not just say that directly?

Bjelks: Because I can make it seem like he scored more goals than he actually did and let's face it. We need scoring help.

TT: Could it be that he went from 10 goals in a league not know for defense to Serie B that might be considered harder and scored less and that is why he wasn't called in?

Bjelks: Again, you don't know football. He faces promotion and regulation that's all you need to go by.

TT: What are your thoughts about Chris Richards and Konrad De La Fuente?

Bjelks: They are starters today for USMNT.

TT: Not concerned that the haven't played first team minutes? You want them to go against the World's Best without so much as one season playing first team football?

Bjelks: Brian Kleiban said that Richards is the starting CB for USMNT and Konrad De La Fuente oozes technical ability. Recently, he sat the bench in the Champions League Match for Barca. That is easily worth real experience and surpasses say a player like Jordan Morris who scored five goals. So sitting the bench in the Champions League in an empty stadium is worth ten goals.

TT: Revolutionary concepts! Not even playing and gaining valuable experience.

Bjelks: Not revolutionary, if you know football.

cudevil
Post #7
Thursday August 13, 2020 7:47pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,075
Original post from hamsamwich

Novakovich has always been a big midwestern kid with good feet and an eye for the goal. He's making a name for himself. One more game to go.....


I personally don't rate Nova. I think he's a bit cumbersome on the field, and I don't think he can handle the pace of the international game. That said, it's pretty stupid that he hasn't been called in and given a real run, particularly given the recent state of the striker pool.

Lilshmike
Post #8
Thursday August 13, 2020 8:00pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,455
Original post from Samtom23

ESPN

Uncovered: The Truth Behind the USMNT

August 13th, 2020

By Taylor Twellmen

Many of us having watched, cheered and ultimately agonized over the USMNT failures since not qualifying for the 2018 World Cup. But why in a nation populated with approximately 360 million, why can't we find 23 players that can kick the ball with their feet? This reporter and former USMNT went in search of the answers.

My search lead me to interview a guru of soccer knowledgegure and message board warrior that goes by the name, Bjelks. Let's go ahead and begin our question and answer session.

TT: Bjelks, why is that the USMNT struggle so much recently?

Bjelks: Well, Taylor. It is because the quota system put in place by USMNT and MLS.

TT: WHAT? There is quota system. Tell me, more.

Bjelks: Yes, the USMNT works together with MLS to support pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes that play in MLS.

TT: WHAT? Wait! What about Gyasi Xardes, Jozy Altidore, Cristan Roldan, Jonathan Lewis, Tyler Adams, Weston Mckennie, Miles Robinson, and any other player of non-Caucasian descent that got called in? How do you explain this?

Bjelks: Yes, there is your proof. These players are clearly pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes. I don't need to explain it to any further than that.

TT: I don't get it.

Bjelks: That is because you know nothing about football and are a Monday monda!

TT: I played for many years even for USMNT.

Bjelks: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. If it isn't European and it is doesn't have PRO/REL it is not worthy of time and consideration.

TT: Can you give an example?

Bjelks: Yes, Andrija Novakovich. He had thirteen goal involvements in this year and should've been called in two years ago when he had ten goals in a Scandavian League.

TT: Yes, I can see a Caucasian that plays internationally not being called in fits this quota. But what do you mean 13 goal involvements?

Bjelks: I mean he was involved in 13 goals.

TT: Scored 13?

Bjelks: He scored 5 goals and had 8 assists in 34 appearances.

TT: Why not just say that directly?

Bjelks: Because I can make it seem like he scored more goals than he actually did and let's face it. We need scoring help.

TT: Could it be that he went from 10 goals in a league not know for defense to Serie B that might be considered harder and scored less and that is why he wasn't called in?

Bjelks: Again, you don't know football. He faces promotion and regulation that's all you need to go by.

TT: What are your thoughts about Chris Richards and Konrad De La Fuente?

Bjelks: They are starters today for USMNT.

TT: Not concerned that the haven't played first team minutes? You want them to go against the World's Best without so much as one season playing first team football?

Bjelks: Brian Kleiban said that Richards is the starting CB for USMNT and Konrad De La Fuente oozes technical ability. Recently, he sat the bench in the Champions League Match for Barca. That is easily worth real experience and surpasses say a player like Jordan Morris who scored five goals. So sitting the bench in the Champions League in an empty stadium is worth ten goals.

TT: Revolutionary concepts! Not even playing and gaining valuable experience.

Bjelks: Not revolutionary, if you know football.
Hahahaha this is actually really funny. Good stuff.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #9
Thursday August 13, 2020 9:28pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,475
Original post from Samtom23

ESPN

Uncovered: The Truth Behind the USMNT

August 13th, 2020

By Taylor Twellmen

Many of us having watched, cheered and ultimately agonized over the USMNT failures since not qualifying for the 2018 World Cup. But why in a nation populated with approximately 360 million, why can't we find 23 players that can kick the ball with their feet? This reporter and former USMNT went in search of the answers.

My search lead me to interview a guru of soccer knowledgegure and message board warrior that goes by the name, Bjelks. Let's go ahead and begin our question and answer session.

TT: Bjelks, why is that the USMNT struggle so much recently?

Bjelks: Well, Taylor. It is because the quota system put in place by USMNT and MLS.

TT: WHAT? There is quota system. Tell me, more.

Bjelks: Yes, the USMNT works together with MLS to support pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes that play in MLS.

TT: WHAT? Wait! What about Gyasi Xardes, Jozy Altidore, Cristan Roldan, Jonathan Lewis, Tyler Adams, Weston Mckennie, Miles Robinson, and any other player of non-Caucasian descent that got called in? How do you explain this?

Bjelks: Yes, there is your proof. These players are clearly pretty boys with blond hair and blue eyes. I don't need to explain it to any further than that.

TT: I don't get it.

Bjelks: That is because you know nothing about football and are a Monday monda!

TT: I played for many years even for USMNT.

Bjelks: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. If it isn't European and it is doesn't have PRO/REL it is not worthy of time and consideration.

TT: Can you give an example?

Bjelks: Yes, Andrija Novakovich. He had thirteen goal involvements in this year and should've been called in two years ago when he had ten goals in a Scandavian League.

TT: Yes, I can see a Caucasian that plays internationally not being called in fits this quota. But what do you mean 13 goal involvements?

Bjelks: I mean he was involved in 13 goals.

TT: Scored 13?

Bjelks: He scored 5 goals and had 8 assists in 34 appearances.

TT: Why not just say that directly?

Bjelks: Because I can make it seem like he scored more goals than he actually did and let's face it. We need scoring help.

TT: Could it be that he went from 10 goals in a league not know for defense to Serie B that might be considered harder and scored less and that is why he wasn't called in?

Bjelks: Again, you don't know football. He faces promotion and regulation that's all you need to go by.

TT: What are your thoughts about Chris Richards and Konrad De La Fuente?

Bjelks: They are starters today for USMNT.

TT: Not concerned that the haven't played first team minutes? You want them to go against the World's Best without so much as one season playing first team football?

Bjelks: Brian Kleiban said that Richards is the starting CB for USMNT and Konrad De La Fuente oozes technical ability. Recently, he sat the bench in the Champions League Match for Barca. That is easily worth real experience and surpasses say a player like Jordan Morris who scored five goals. So sitting the bench in the Champions League in an empty stadium is worth ten goals.

TT: Revolutionary concepts! Not even playing and gaining valuable experience.

Bjelks: Not revolutionary, if you know football.


Wow this is pretty weird dude...lol. This one might of only needed to stay a thought...

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #10
Thursday August 13, 2020 9:35pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,475
Original post from Lilshmike

Earnie Stewart, who played in Eredivisie and is a veteran of 3 world cups...

Gregg Berhalter, who played in the Eredivisie, Premier League, and Bundesliga and is a veteran of 2 world cups...

Yeah, they've never accomplished anything of significance. Btw, what have you accomplished?


Think he means the higher ups...you know the ones that get the kickbacks...

bjelks
Post #11
Thursday August 13, 2020 9:58pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,694
Earnie nor Gregg are respected by the international community.

Earnie never played Champions League

Gregg never won a trophy of significance

They're tools for mls.

Gregg is unqualified for this job is shows it with every selection

Earnie hired him as a favor to his brother
goalsense
Samtom23
Post #12
Friday August 14, 2020 12:52am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 426
Original post from Scout92

Wow this is pretty weird dude...lol. This one might of only needed to stay a thought...


I can agree it was WAY over the top. But I feel that way about Bjelks and his logic. He seems to believe he is some soccer encyclopaedia of knowledge. And he dismisses anyone else's ideas. I was trying to show that in a nonsensical way.

Dave
Post #13
Thursday August 20, 2020 2:42am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,090
Original post from cudevil

I personally don't rate Nova. I think he's a bit cumbersome on the field, and I don't think he can handle the pace of the international game. That said, it's pretty stupid that he hasn't been called in and given a real run, particularly given the recent state of the striker pool.

I'm of the same mind. Nova reminds me more of the old Target Center Forward model. A big body that mixes it up in the opponents box to get on the end of a cross. Granted I've seen very few games with him....but his size and speed don't really match up with the possession oriented style the US Pool is moving towards.
If you're looking for a striker that will completely change the approach of the attack from possession to counter & cross, than by all means include Nova on the 23. Otherwise I don't think he works with the direction we're going.

Lilshmike
Post #14
Friday August 21, 2020 1:33pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,455
Frosinone wasn't promoted. Novakovich is going to be sitting in Serie B for another season...

In 38 games for Frosinone, Novakovich scored only 5 times. Serie B is a weaker league than MLS...

Hate to point out the obvious here... but thats not gonna cut it. The guy has to do better in order to get called into the national team. Especially when there are multiple forwards in MLS (which is stronger than Serie B) who are scoring more goals.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #15
Friday August 21, 2020 2:23pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,018
Original post from bjelks

Earnie nor Gregg are respected by the international community.

Earnie never played Champions League

Gregg never won a trophy of significance

They're tools for mls.

Gregg is unqualified for this job is shows it with every selection

Earnie hired him as a favor to his brother


I didn't want GB to be hired and I am not 100% sold on him being our best option but I think you are making stuff up again.

What evidence do you have that Ernie and Gregg are not respected by the international community?

Many players don't win big trophy's what does that have to do with Managerial skill anyway?

GB did play on a team that got promoted back to the Bundesliga, he was voted team captain by the other players etc. He got a coaching job in Europe upon retirement from football
Earnie stewart also help his team earn promotion back to the Dutch fist division. He also had a job waiting for him in Europe the day he retired. He only left because of opportunities he wanted to pursue here.

The evidence doesn't really seem to support what you are trying to sell here.

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