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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #1
Friday April 3, 2020 12:59am

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How long can leagues go without stadiums filled with fans. I know MLS can survive but a lot of Euro leagues have teams pretty much always on the brink of bankruptcy. What are your thoughts on how long this can be sustained?

Samtom23
Post #2
Friday April 3, 2020 2:27am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 454
I read where the Bundesliga suspected that they would most likely lose a couple of teams due to finances. Which is a shame because I really like their 50+1 model.

I also read where the Premier League might proceed without live audiences. These way they could still getting the tv revenue. I am hoping they can do so in a safe way.

But it also depends upon regional governments and businesses and how they assist. I would think 2nd tier leagues will face greater difficulty. This might great affect the future transfer market as well. This might mean you no longer see the 100 million dollar transfers.

But after some hardship the clubs that got affected I suspect will come back but possibly not as strong.

blaise213
Post #3
Friday April 3, 2020 7:54am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,179
MLS just cut salaries by 25%

Surprised massive looting hasn't started yet. Can't get a gun for the life of me ! California sucks

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #4
Friday April 3, 2020 8:33am

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Original post from blaise213

MLS just cut salaries by 25%

Surprised massive looting hasn't started yet. Can't get a gun for the life of me ! California sucks


They didn't cut player salaries, just staff, executives, office personal, trainers, etc.

Pstkeeper
Post #5
Saturday April 4, 2020 11:49pm

Joined Dec 2017
Total Posts: 26
Unfortunately, I think reality is going to have to set in and these European leagues are going to have to follow Belgium and cancel the rest of their season. The powers that be need to start putting their thoughts towards declaring a league champion if they choose, relegation, promotion and next season. There are lots of comments about needing to finish this season for the integrity of the game. I think if you push things into July, or even August, you risk effecting the integrity of not only next year, but perhaps the year after that as well. You will effect league play, European competitions, National Team dates and Cup competitions. Not everyone is going to be happy with whatever decisions are made, but these are very unusual circumstances and nobody knows if this thing is going to come back around in the Fall and to what degree.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #6
Sunday April 5, 2020 2:52am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from Pstkeeper

Unfortunately, I think reality is going to have to set in and these European leagues are going to have to follow Belgium and cancel the rest of their season. The powers that be need to start putting their thoughts towards declaring a league champion if they choose, relegation, promotion and next season. There are lots of comments about needing to finish this season for the integrity of the game. I think if you push things into July, or even August, you risk effecting the integrity of not only next year, but perhaps the year after that as well. You will effect league play, European competitions, National Team dates and Cup competitions. Not everyone is going to be happy with whatever decisions are made, but these are very unusual circumstances and nobody knows if this thing is going to come back around in the Fall and to what degree.


There are some estimates that this could go on as long as a year and a half. No one really knows. If this goes on even a third of that time I think many teams will fold.

Samtom23
Post #7
Monday April 6, 2020 8:46am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 454
It is really hard to tell now.

Also, depends on the resources of each league. I think some leagues will resume without fans in attendance. The leagues that are able to will then get the revenue from the tv contracts. But leagues that don't have massive tv contracts, they face a more daunting future.

Any thoughts about the Premier League players refusing pay cuts?

SoccerGod
Clouds, Heaven
Post #8
Monday April 6, 2020 4:36pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 86
You all became so complacent in my absence.
For I am creator of all things soccer. Seek repentance or just beat Mexico, either will get you in up here.
blaise213
Post #9
Tuesday April 7, 2020 12:31am

Joined Sep 2012
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Lol this dude is back

First funny thing you posted though

Know Nothing
Post #10
Tuesday April 7, 2020 8:02pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,827
Original post from Samtom23

It is really hard to tell now.

Also, depends on the resources of each league. I think some leagues will resume without fans in attendance. The leagues that are able to will then get the revenue from the tv contracts. But leagues that don't have massive tv contracts, they face a more daunting future.

Any thoughts about the Premier League players refusing pay cuts?


Depends on where you are in your career. If you are older and on your last big contract then I can't blame someone for saying no. Yes, it is selfish, but with uncertain times ahead, you may as well take advantage of it.

It makes more sense for younger players to accept a pay cut as a goodwill gesture for future pay. This stoppage will probably cause a lot of teams to go under, potentially diminishing the number of roster spots available. Being greedy now could hamper negotiations for future employment.

Samtom23
Post #11
Wednesday April 8, 2020 6:30am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 454
I don't think it should be mandatory by any means. I think players have many financial commitments and some of less financially rewarded might find themselves in a dire situation or their relatives. But I can see your logic, know nothing.

Sucks here they announced school closure extensions until the end of May. So January until then no school. And we can go out here but it is frowned upon socially.

Pstkeeper
Post #12
Wednesday April 8, 2020 8:35pm

Joined Dec 2017
Total Posts: 26
These European football clubs are cutthroat and ruthless and making a goodwill gesture in taking a pay cut will not help most younger players. You would need to define what age you consider a younger player because most of them don't make enough money to take a cut. Many of the powers that be in these clubs are greedy and selfish and they make decisions for the immediate impact, not what they think may happen in the future. Plus the manager or player director who you think will appreciate the gesture could be gone in a heartbeat the way this sport works. Hence the phrase, "What have you done for me lately".

Pstkeeper
Post #13
Wednesday April 8, 2020 11:09pm

Joined Dec 2017
Total Posts: 26
Here's a very good article on the financial ability FIFA and UEFA have to help the footballing world recover.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fifa/story/4...

bjelks
Post #14
Thursday April 9, 2020 8:13pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,750
This is the best analysis I've ever heard from an American giving you actual context and detail on our best U20s. Disclaimer I believe Efrain has committed to Mexico.

https://twitter.com/3four3/status/12482769565...
goalsense
Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #15
Friday April 10, 2020 1:22am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from bjelks

This is the best analysis I've ever heard from an American giving you actual context and detail on our best U20s. Disclaimer I believe Efrain has committed to Mexico.

https://twitter.com/3four3/status/12482769565...


That was a joy to watch

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