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Scout92
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Post #76
Thursday September 10, 2020 5:53pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from Samtom23

My ultimate thought is Reggie Cannon is a youth and has only experienced a quarter of his life. I wouldn't submit to a younger man than myself for leadership in most scenarios. You learn by experience and I think that is why we have laws that our leadership must reach a certain age.

As far as customs, we retain only bits of our heritage and less so as every generation passes. I feel if you are raised within the culture of USA then you are American regardless of where your forefathers came from.

I am still for Reggie Cannon if he gets called in but hope he keeps politics out of it. When any athlete represents USA, they aren't just representing a portion of USA but all of us.


Superfluous simplification of larger issues with many contributing factors not understood or recognized due to limited and singular focused perspectives. That's why I vote for no politic talk on soccer forum.

stoked-3
Post #77
Thursday September 10, 2020 5:54pm

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 168
Original post from Scout92

LOL. Why do you think I asked, because y'all are posting about politics on a soccer forum stupidly. I'm trolling you, but you still managed to fall for it and give your political stance. Good job. LOL


@cleancutimage is a vet and LEO not sure its a great look trolling him-you may want to thank him for his service and giving all of us the freedoms to debate sports politics etc without the threat of arrest as well as for trying to protect our streets. So I think you can cut his some slack as he was responding to a question.

Actually not to stupid to talk politics on a soccer site, given Reggie has been a Nat team starter, over yedlin before covid. And if you believe some on this site you have to be a starter to get called in where would that leave Dest.

So it is relevant to the extend GB rates him, and will be in the conversation to start-I assume you have Dest, Yedlin, Reggie as your depth? But if Yedlin doesnt want to play for the Nats, and Reggie decides the same, and Dest is not starting-as a coach would that not have to figure into your thinking on who you would call in. Would you bring Lima back in, call in Moore who is playing well etc

Should the site turn into guys asking others who they are voting for, no but you did.

But since race relations is at an all time high -honest transparent communication is a good way to ease tensions, find middle ground, promote equality for all so we can unite as a country. and as @oldguy said as long as it is respectful it should/would be beneficial. This forum is sports/soccer specific but politics has spilled into the soccer/sport world-all of us on here have different view and perspectives so not the worst while not ideal to talk about it if it is brought up who knows maybe your perspective would be helpful towards the easing of racial tension.

In regards to Reggie, regardless of his politics I think we all can agree that we want him to do well at his new club and we all want him to go to Lille next year. As an american I think he is free to express his feelings anyway he chooses at the club level. However, the national team is different bc you are representing the USA. That being said should yedlin or anyone for that matter choose not to rep the USA I would still like to hope you would still wish success for said player on the club level

cleancutimage
Post #78
Thursday September 10, 2020 6:04pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
Original post from Scout92

LOL. Why do you think I asked, because y'all are posting about politics on a soccer forum stupidly. I'm trolling you, but you still managed to fall for it and give your political stance. Good job. LOL


Reggie Cannon made it about politics. If Reggie Cannon kept his politics to himself and just played a sport that we all enjoyed, we wouldn't be having this conversation on a soccer forum. I dare you go back and find a post of mine that was political before this instance.

But anyway enjoy another 4 years of Trump, sir. Thanks to people like Reggie Cannon.

cleancutimage
Post #79
Thursday September 10, 2020 6:06pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
Original post from stoked-3

@cleancutimage is a vet and LEO not sure its a great look trolling him-you may want to thank him for his service and giving all of us the freedoms to debate sports politics etc without the threat of arrest as well as for trying to protect our streets. So I think you can cut his some slack as he was responding to a question.

Actually not to stupid to talk politics on a soccer site, given Reggie has been a Nat team starter, over yedlin before covid. And if you believe some on this site you have to be a starter to get called in where would that leave Dest.

So it is relevant to the extend GB rates him, and will be in the conversation to start-I assume you have Dest, Yedlin, Reggie as your depth? But if Yedlin doesnt want to play for the Nats, and Reggie decides the same, and Dest is not starting-as a coach would that not have to figure into your thinking on who you would call in. Would you bring Lima back in, call in Moore who is playing well etc

Should the site turn into guys asking others who they are voting for, no but you did.

But since race relations is at an all time high -honest transparent communication is a good way to ease tensions, find middle ground, promote equality for all so we can unite as a country. and as @oldguy said as long as it is respectful it should/would be beneficial. This forum is sports/soccer specific but politics has spilled into the soccer/sport world-all of us on here have different view and perspectives so not the worst while not ideal to talk about it if it is brought up who knows maybe your perspective would be helpful towards the easing of racial tension.

In regards to Reggie, regardless of his politics I think we all can agree that we want him to do well at his new club and we all want him to go to Lille next year. As an american I think he is free to express his feelings anyway he chooses at the club level. However, the national team is different bc you are representing the USA. That being said should yedlin or anyone for that matter choose not to rep the USA I would still like to hope you would still wish success for said player on the club level


He owes me nothing brother because I don't do what I do for him personally. Whether he existed or not, I still would be who I am.

Speaking of Cannon, Boavista is quite a bit off from Lille. What happened?

stoked-3
Post #80
Thursday September 10, 2020 6:34pm

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 168
Original post from cleancutimage



He owes me nothing brother because I don't do what I do for him personally. Whether he existed or not, I still would be who I am.

Speaking of Cannon, Boavista is quite a bit off from Lille. What happened?


Boavista has been a feeder club for Lille-my guess is Lille may have been interested but wanted to see how he competes at Boavista before bringing him-I wouldnt be surprised if there is a deal in place for him to move to Lille should he do well-which I think he will since Boavista is not a big step up from mls and to be fair I think Reggie did fine with the nats -I bet he wont be there long or hopefully he is not

Scout92
Lone Star State
Post #81
Thursday September 10, 2020 6:51pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,529
Original post from stoked-3

@cleancutimage is a vet and LEO not sure its a great look trolling him-you may want to thank him for his service and giving all of us the freedoms to debate sports politics etc without the threat of arrest as well as for trying to protect our streets. So I think you can cut his some slack as he was responding to a question.

Actually not to stupid to talk politics on a soccer site, given Reggie has been a Nat team starter, over yedlin before covid. And if you believe some on this site you have to be a starter to get called in where would that leave Dest.

So it is relevant to the extend GB rates him, and will be in the conversation to start-I assume you have Dest, Yedlin, Reggie as your depth? But if Yedlin doesnt want to play for the Nats, and Reggie decides the same, and Dest is not starting-as a coach would that not have to figure into your thinking on who you would call in. Would you bring Lima back in, call in Moore who is playing well etc

Should the site turn into guys asking others who they are voting for, no but you did.

But since race relations is at an all time high -honest transparent communication is a good way to ease tensions, find middle ground, promote equality for all so we can unite as a country. and as @oldguy said as long as it is respectful it should/would be beneficial. This forum is sports/soccer specific but politics has spilled into the soccer/sport world-all of us on here have different view and perspectives so not the worst while not ideal to talk about it if it is brought up who knows maybe your perspective would be helpful towards the easing of racial tension.

In regards to Reggie, regardless of his politics I think we all can agree that we want him to do well at his new club and we all want him to go to Lille next year. As an american I think he is free to express his feelings anyway he chooses at the club level. However, the national team is different bc you are representing the USA. That being said should yedlin or anyone for that matter choose not to rep the USA I would still like to hope you would still wish success for said player on the club level


Would need to see the details around missions he was involved in to thank him, as there is much political self-fulfilling agendas that are also achieved there. So that's up for debate..this is the response you wanted right. Yeah ease racial tension LOL...yeah I think you mean the other thing.. LOL

stoked-3
Post #82
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:11pm

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 168
Original post from Scout92

Would need to see the details around missions he was involved in to thank him, as there is much political self-fulfilling agendas that are also achieved there. So that's up for debate..this is the response you wanted right. Yeah ease racial tension LOL...yeah I think you mean the other thing.. LOL


Pretty patriotic of you-our men and women who serve, serve the country out of the love of our country. They do not join bc they agree or disagree with whomever the commander in chief is at the time. Also, there small chance at self fulfilling agendas-you do not get to pick and choose your missions, yes many go into politics from both sides of the isle after they leave the military-and anyone who serves no matter of political affiliation deserves our appreciation. Regardless of whatever mission our brave men and women carry out they should be thanked and respected--

I have no clue what you are talking about re I think you mean the other thing. You care to elaborate not in code and I will be happy to respond?

but I am surprised you are talking politics without including the sport correlation since you just called someone stupid for doing so.

cleancutimage
Post #83
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:23pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
Original post from stoked-3

Boavista has been a feeder club for Lille-my guess is Lille may have been interested but wanted to see how he competes at Boavista before bringing him-I wouldnt be surprised if there is a deal in place for him to move to Lille should he do well-which I think he will since Boavista is not a big step up from mls and to be fair I think Reggie did fine with the nats -I bet he wont be there long or hopefully he is not


Thanks for the info because I was thinking the 11th place team in the Portuguese League cannot be his ceiling. Granted, there is no team on the level of Benfica & Porto and you could argue Sporting Lisbon in MLS, in terms of quality. But that's another topic...

Scout92
Lone Star State
Post #84
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:29pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,529
Original post from stoked-3

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Pretty patriotic of you-our men and women who serve, serve the country out of the love of our country. They do not join bc they agree or disagree with whomever the commander in chief is at the time. Also, there small chance at self fulfilling agendas-you do not get to pick and choose your missions, yes many go into politics from both sides of the isle after they leave the military-and anyone who serves no matter of political affiliation deserves our appreciation. Regardless of whatever mission our brave men and women carry out they should be thanked and respected-

I have no clue what you are talking about re I think you mean the other thing. You care to elaborate not in code and I will be happy to respond?

but I am surprised you are talking politics without including the sport correlation since you just called someone stupid for doing so.


I talked about politics to show how stupid it is to do so..and attaching a little reference back to the main subject of discussion doesn't make it ok to do so. You don't have to thank everyone who served as if they are a war hero or something. Calm down.

hamsamwich
Post #85
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:43pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,637
The technical and tactical level of the league as a whole is higher than the MLS. Whether it helps Reggie or hurts him to play a more advanced style and compete against it, time will tell. Many Americans have thrived learning more and having more pressure. Some haven't. He's definitely playing as an audition for Lille ir for one of the three big clubs in Portugal. It also will allow Reggie to get a work permit in the UK next year (although that's an old rule who knows with Brexit)....

"Regardless of whatever mission" @stoked? I think that's where a lot of us draw the line. Back in the day sure but since Vietnam I'm pretty sure we repeatedly violate the Geneva Convention on a regular basis. Only our physical and economic might spares us from war crimes charges. I respect the fight against the VA for our vets as I believe they are poorly treated when they come home, like used garbage. I respect those who serve their time dutifully and with honor and integrity. But that's not the case for all our men and women in uniform and so they will not be uniformly praised just for their military service. Many people here in the USA think a lot of military actions especially recently bring dishonor to the country and and only serve to protect the wealthy multinational companies that don't give a shit about the USA...

Like it or not guys like Cannon, Yedlin and whoever else represent the USA on a global stage more than your average GI in the middle of some foreign desert. Pulisic and McKennie (with his support from Juventus- I wonder how that goes because Italians are super not racist lol) are household names to many around the planet and would be more recognizable in 2022 World Cup than many other Americans doing "regular jobs" or people in a military base in say Japan. So of course players actions and thoughts matter, just like everybody's matter. Except these guys have more of a platform than some poor guy from Georgia in his second tour.

cleancutimage
Post #86
Thursday September 10, 2020 7:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
Original post from hamsamwich

The technical and tactical level of the league as a whole is higher than the MLS. Whether it helps Reggie or hurts him to play a more advanced style and compete against it, time will tell. Many Americans have thrived learning more and having more pressure. Some haven't. He's definitely playing as an audition for Lille ir for one of the three big clubs in Portugal. It also will allow Reggie to get a work permit in the UK next year (although that's an old rule who knows with Brexit)....

"Regardless of whatever mission" @stoked? I think that's where a lot of us draw the line. Back in the day sure but since Vietnam I'm pretty sure we repeatedly violate the Geneva Convention on a regular basis. Only our physical and economic might spares us from war crimes charges. I respect the fight against the VA for our vets as I believe they are poorly treated when they come home, like used garbage. I respect those who serve their time dutifully and with honor and integrity. But that's not the case for all our men and women in uniform and so they will not be uniformly praised just for their military service. Many people here in the USA think a lot of military actions especially recently bring dishonor to the country and and only serve to protect the wealthy multinational companies that don't give a shit about the USA...

Like it or not guys like Cannon, Yedlin and whoever else represent the USA on a global stage more than your average GI in the middle of some foreign desert. Pulisic and McKennie (with his support from Juventus- I wonder how that goes because Italians are super not racist lol) are household names to many around the planet and would be more recognizable in 2022 World Cup than many other Americans doing "regular jobs" or people in a military base in say Japan. So of course players actions and thoughts matter, just like everybody's matter. Except these guys have more of a platform than some poor guy from Georgia in his second tour.


You bring up good points but at the end of the day there is no global stage without the military might of the US. So yes GIs don't have the fame & individual recognition but without their commitment during their enlistment there is no men's national team. There are a lot of countries that want to bring us down and if it wasn't for the power of US military, they would have reached their objective. Certainly the US men's national team isn't putting the fear into other countries and at the end of the day, a lot of these bad people could care less about sports and about what Yedlin or Cannon think, other than they think they are weak or not unified. As a Vet, do I agree with everything the US has done? Absolutely not but as long as I am not put in a compromising position with my faith than I do my job. It is that simple. It is easy to armchair analyze. Like I can criticize every bad pass or every wrong defensive position that they took but they are ones playing and I am the one watching.

hamsamwich
Post #87
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:27pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,637
I'm a big anti communist dude my family got ran out Cuba back in the day so I understand that type of argument. My dads side of the family great grandpa got gassed in the Argonne forest, grandpa flew missions over the pacific. Moms side we're all military in Cuba to the point they were some of the bay of pigs crew later. I get all that. It's a nuanced argument and I appreciate the comments from you @cleancutimage. Civil disagreement is cornerstone of our society. Free speech and assembly and all that.
I told my friends I'm gonna watch the KC Houston game tonite with the sound off just so I can watch some football but not have to hear some schmucks tell me what my opinion should be. Having your own opinion, mind and ideas is what life is supposed to be here in the USA. Of that we should all be in agreement. If I don't like them skipping the anthem all together it seems like I can just crank up the Grateful Dead and enjoy five extra minutes of snacks. I don't have to give someone's opinion an audience if I don't want, or I can if I choose. USA! USA!

Scout92
Lone Star State
Post #88
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:30pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,529
Original post from cleancutimage

Reggie Cannon made it about politics. If Reggie Cannon kept his politics to himself and just played a sport that we all enjoyed, we wouldn't be having this conversation on a soccer forum. I dare you go back and find a post of mine that was political before this instance.

But anyway enjoy another 4 years of Trump, sir. Thanks to people like Reggie Cannon.


YA fourm-"Reggie Cannon's moving to Portugal"

Cleancutless-"But what about when he didn't stand for anthem!!" *shakes fist aggressively..LOL

cleancutimage
Post #89
Thursday September 10, 2020 8:44pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
Original post from Scout92

YA fourm-"Reggie Cannon's moving to Portugal"

Cleancutless-"But what about when he didn't stand for anthem!!" *shakes fist aggressively..LOL


You are a corny dude. The type to like his own comments. I pray for your types. Be blessed, sir!🙏🏾

Scout92
Lone Star State
Post #90
Thursday September 10, 2020 9:00pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,529
Original post from cleancutimage

You are a corny dude. The type to like his own comments. I pray for your types. Be blessed, sir!🙏🏾


This is a corny thread, only matching the energy here.

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