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EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #1
Thursday March 19, 2020 10:10pm

Joined May 2013
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From Tom Bogert on Twitter

Reggie Cannon admits he's concerned about a potential summer move to Europe:

"Yeah,it's obviously a concern. Being transparent, I want to give Dallas 100% for however long I'm here.But the goal was to be transferred in the summer, but obviously...it's a tough time for transfers"

Cannon, continued:

"Regardless of if it happens (this summer) or not, I don't think it'll hinder my career at all. It's God's timing, I have to trust in him and have faith, which I do. At the end of the day, I know my future is over there (Europe), whenever that may be."

I wonder what offers he has. Some German teams definitely have called I'm sure. I wonder if he's eligible for a work visa for The UK. He's got to have played close to the 75% of US matches over the past year.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #2
Thursday March 19, 2020 11:58pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,197
Original post from EKneezy

From Tom Bogert on Twitter

Reggie Cannon admits he's concerned about a potential summer move to Europe:

"Yeah,it's obviously a concern. Being transparent, I want to give Dallas 100% for however long I'm here.But the goal was to be transferred in the summer, but obviously...it's a tough time for transfers"

Cannon, continued:

"Regardless of if it happens (this summer) or not, I don't think it'll hinder my career at all. It's God's timing, I have to trust in him and have faith, which I do. At the end of the day, I know my future is over there (Europe), whenever that may be."

I wonder what offers he has. Some German teams definitely have called I'm sure. I wonder if he's eligible for a work visa for The UK. He's got to have played close to the 75% of US matches over the past year.


I hope it's Germany where he goes, I don't feel the English value American players or give them a fair shake. The Germans truly put forth the effort to develop young players.

stoked-3
Post #3
Tuesday March 24, 2020 2:51am

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 166
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I hope it's Germany where he goes, I don't feel the English value American players or give them a fair shake. The Germans truly put forth the effort to develop young players.


would love to see him in germany as well

cleancutimage
Post #4
Friday April 17, 2020 1:23am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,344
If this interview doesn't get you excited about this kid then nothing will. https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/04/16/fc-...

Hopefully, he can go to Europe and become a more well-rounded player. Would be nice to see him be more of a goal threat from his RB position.

whyneverme
Post #5
Friday April 17, 2020 1:35am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 98
Original post from cleancutimage

If this interview doesn't get you excited about this kid then nothing will. https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/04/16/fc-...

Hopefully, he can go to Europe and become a more well-rounded player. Would be nice to see him be more of a goal threat from his RB position.


Goal threat!? Now you're just being greedy

blaise213
Post #6
Friday April 17, 2020 9:39am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,335
Average

Dest is 100 times better

bjelks
Post #7
Friday April 17, 2020 2:36pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,995
I'm not here to hate, but I'm not getting my hopes up about Cannon.

I've seen him play quite a few times and he's never stuck out to me.

And if you're comparing him to a younger player that's considered to have a world class ability like Dest, he's nowhere close in technique, quality or quickness and acceleration.

I wish the kid the best but I would temper my expectations for him. Maybe he can be a bottom tier Bundesliga or Ligue 1 RB, but I don't see him being a Champs League quality player.

I'd like to hear what a more qualified scout thinks of his prospects.
goalsense
whyneverme
Post #8
Friday April 17, 2020 11:23pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 98
Original post from bjelks

I'm not here to hate, but I'm not getting my hopes up about Cannon.

I've seen him play quite a few times and he's never stuck out to me.

And if you're comparing him to a younger player that's considered to have a world class ability like Dest, he's nowhere close in technique, quality or quickness and acceleration.

I wish the kid the best but I would temper my expectations for him. Maybe he can be a bottom tier Bundesliga or Ligue 1 RB, but I don't see him being a Champs League quality player.

I'd like to hear what a more qualified scout thinks of his prospects.


From my very limited observations of both players, Dest is by far the better technical player / attacking talent, but Cannon is a better defender who is competent getting forward. Dest might produce more highlights but Cannon might not get caught out as much so the net positive might be better. Both players have room to improve but each could be very good, which is a good problem to have.

Dave
Post #9
Saturday April 18, 2020 4:26am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,181
Original post from whyneverme

From my very limited observations of both players, Dest is by far the better technical player / attacking talent, but Cannon is a better defender who is competent getting forward. Dest might produce more highlights but Cannon might not get caught out as much so the net positive might be better. Both players have room to improve but each could be very good, which is a good problem to have.


Both Cannon (21) and Dest (19) are young players who are still developing and refining their abilities and their game. They each have their strengths and weaknesses.
Dest is the superior technical player....but IMO he's slightly behind Cannon on the outright defensive tactics/awareness. The good news is that players can more easily learn Defensive tactics/awareness than they can develop technical ability. Dest will have every opportunity while playing @ AJAX to improve his tactical understanding of his defensive responsibilities.
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I don't think it matters all that much which of the 2 is the starter against CONCACAF opposition, but at the moment I'd start Cannon over Dest at RB if we were playing a competitive game against one of the top 10 teams in the world.
I also agree with you that both could be very good players....and that it's a good problem to have. Especially considering the issues we have previously had with finding quality back-ups when players are ruled out due to injuries.
The USMNT is starting to have quality & depth across the field. Dest & Cannon @ RB is just another example of how the program is improving despite the federation, manager, and relative young age of the team.
All of these players are under 22 yrs Old and either are significant contributors to their clubs/leagues or on the verge....
Dest, Cannon, Adams, McKennie, Pulisic, Reyna, & A. Robinson are all seeing consistent minutes with good teams/leagues and should be a nice core of players to build around.
Sargent, Weah, Llanez, Ladezma, Gloster, Vassilev, Pomykal, Cappis, & Aaronson appear to be on the verge of becoming consistent contributors or moving up in leagues.
That's 16 players who are under 23 and garnering interest by coaches & fans as USMNT players. I can't think of any time in the past 30+ years where we've had this many players in consideration.

bjelks
Post #10
Friday August 28, 2020 8:56pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,995
https://twitter.com/usmntonly/status/12994220...

bahahahahahahahahajajhahah

Y'all gotta stop hyping these boys just cuz they play in mls
goalsense
cudevil
Post #11
Friday August 28, 2020 9:59pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,204
Original post from bjelks

https://twitter.com/usmntonly/status/12994220...

bahahahahahahahahajajhahah

Y'all gotta stop hyping these boys just cuz they play in mls


How's that? Is it Bundesliga? No. But it seems everywhere I look it is considered a top 10 league in the world, and certainly right in among the group after the big 4. Easily better than the MLS. He's also young and talented. How do you think this proves your point?

bjelks
Post #12
Friday August 28, 2020 11:41pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,995
Y'all were hyping him as a Bundesliga player and now he's going to be on a bottom tier Portuguese club getting smacked every weekend 🤣.

He's not young, he's 22. The development yrs for a footballer are 16-20. The best player in the last WC was 19.

Our best player in the last cycle was 17. Our best RB was starting for Ajax at 18. Good luck to him but I doubt he ever he gets to a top 4 league. Maybe France, but this is gonna be hard for him, getting smacked every weekend.

I think Sergino is talented, so does Barca, Juve, and PSG. A bottom tier Portuguese team picked up Cannon off the scrap heap. That's how talented he is.
goalsense
EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #13
Saturday August 29, 2020 12:12am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,428
22 and Going To Europe? Am I missing something here?His path is different from the phenoms in our country.

He really wanted this move so I expect him to try his best.

You always complain about our players being challenged and here he is challenging himself in Europe.

Dave
Post #14
Saturday August 29, 2020 1:08am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,181
Original post from bjelks

Y'all were hyping him as a Bundesliga player and now he's going to be on a bottom tier Portuguese club getting smacked every weekend 🤣.

He's not young, he's 22. The development yrs for a footballer are 16-20. The best player in the last WC was 19.

Our best player in the last cycle was 17. Our best RB was starting for Ajax at 18. Good luck to him but I doubt he ever he gets to a top 4 league. Maybe France, but this is gonna be hard for him, getting smacked every weekend.

I think Sergino is talented, so does Barca, Juve, and PSG. A bottom tier Portuguese team picked up Cannon off the scrap heap. That's how talented he is.


Is this the move most of us thought or wanted....No. But it's better than going to some of the other places US Players have landed over the years (3rd tier in Spain or England).
The best player in the last WC being 19 is misleading. That's not a excepted norm, and was heavily influenced by the talent around him. Most WC squads have an average age of 27....which is the prime age for footballers.
Cannon being 22 he can still refine his game and be a viable back-up & contributor this cycle....and will/should be overtaken with a younger option for 2026 cycle.
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Sergino should be the starting RB for the USMNT (A. Robinson should be the starting LB)...which leaves Cannon as only a back-up. His competition for the back-up role is either Yedlin (a bench player for Newcastle), Moore (a 2nd/3rd division player in Spain), or Chandler (an aging back who's often been injured).
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The fact our best player last cycle was 17 is a disgrace...and a major reason we failed to qualify. Every country hopes to have a prodigy (Messi, Ronaldo, etc...), but the simple fact of the matter is that these are rare talents. Most successful WC Teams have a core of players around 25-27 who are experienced and playing at high levels...with a sprinkling of young starlets (18-23) & Solid Veterans (28-32).
Due to our "Lost Generation" and some poor development, the current core of the USMNT is extremely young Averaging ~22.7 yrs (Pulisic, Adams, McKennie, Reyna, Dest, A. Robinson, Brooks, Steffen). This is not the norm nor should it be the desired make-up of a WC Team. We are in a poor spot right now in that we lack any quality players in optimal age bracket....so are depending on a bunch of kids.
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The bar for this cycle should be for our core of players to gain invaluable experience so that in the 2026 cycle they can truly "Lead" the team, and make a serious statement.

Samtom23
Post #15
Saturday August 29, 2020 1:56am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 558
Original post from bjelks

Y'all were hyping him as a Bundesliga player and now he's going to be on a bottom tier Portuguese club getting smacked every weekend 🤣.

He's not young, he's 22. The development yrs for a footballer are 16-20. The best player in the last WC was 19.

Our best player in the last cycle was 17. Our best RB was starting for Ajax at 18. Good luck to him but I doubt he ever he gets to a top 4 league. Maybe France, but this is gonna be hard for him, getting smacked every weekend.

I think Sergino is talented, so does Barca, Juve, and PSG. A bottom tier Portuguese team picked up Cannon off the scrap heap. That's how talented he is.


You are pretty much a racist so until you acknowledge and address it. Who cares what you say about football?

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