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blaise213
Post #61
Saturday May 2, 2020 5:38pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,405
Original post from bjelks

I try to practice common sense when I assess players and make evaluations.

You seem to lack understanding of the roles and importance of defensive and simple players in central midfield and want everyone to do tricks.
It makes you sound very ignorant and silly.


It's a message board of 15 people, who gives a shit. I've been putting out my FIFA style lines ups since 2013 on ESPN. Reyna is starter for me, Holmes is a starter for me. Holmes is good defensively and would be fine in the #8 position IMO. McKennie is a decent player surrounded by better players on his team. He's doesn't perform the same way he does for his club when playing for the National team.

bjelks
Post #62
Saturday May 2, 2020 8:23pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,046
Original post from blaise213

It's a message board of 15 people, who gives a shit. I've been putting out my FIFA style lines ups since 2013 on ESPN. Reyna is starter for me, Holmes is a starter for me. Holmes is good defensively and would be fine in the #8 position IMO. McKennie is a decent player surrounded by better players on his team. He's doesn't perform the same way he does for his club when playing for the National team.


As one of those 15 ppl that want to keep the integrity on the board, I've accepted the responsibility of calling you out for being stupid.

We don't care about yo or fifa style lineups, we care about you saying stupid things that you know aren't true.

You can't even mention Mckennie without lying, it's super weak.

Pulisic has bad games with the national team, so does Dest, so does Sarg, so does Brooks, so does Adams if he ever gets healthy.

The point is you can't come for Mckennie for no reason and excuse everyone else
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Dave
Post #63
Sunday May 3, 2020 12:54am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,193
Original post from blaise213

It's a message board of 15 people, who gives a shit. I've been putting out my FIFA style lines ups since 2013 on ESPN. Reyna is starter for me, Holmes is a starter for me. Holmes is good defensively and would be fine in the #8 position IMO. McKennie is a decent player surrounded by better players on his team. He's doesn't perform the same way he does for his club when playing for the National team.

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While I like Holmes he hasn't been healthy enough to prove he's an International level player...yet. As far as McKennie, he's shown at both the club and the international level he's a valuable contributor. Additionally, you say McKennie is "a decent player surrounded by better players on his (club) team." Unfortunately due to injuries and other issues, McKennie has not had much time at the international level with our best players. Once everyone is back from COVID-19...we should be able to see our best players. A couple camps/games together and we'll finally be able to see what we really have to work with.
With the right formation and game plan there is no reason why Adams, McKennie, Holmes, Pulisic, & Reyna couldn't be deployed together in a well balanced formation....
--------------Sargent--------------
--Pulisic--------------------Reyna---
--------------Holmes--------------
-------McKennie--------Adams--------
A. Robinson-----Brooks-----Miazga-----Dest
---------------Steffens-------------
Bench: Ferreira, Morris, Llanez, Weah, Pomykal, Hyndman, Yueill, Cannon/Yedlin, Richards, M. Robinson/Alvarado, Horvath, Johnson/Hamid
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If we are playing a weak opponent we can pull Holmes/McKennie and push Pulisic more centrally to insert another wide attacker (Weah or Llanez).
If we need more defensive bite we can pull Reyna and insert a Pomykal/Hyndman in as a wide player.
Injury Reserves: Long, CCV, EPB, Morales, Aaronson, Lledezma, Jozy, Guzan

Lilshmike
Post #64
Monday May 4, 2020 10:15pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,628
Original post from bjelks

As one of those 15 ppl that want to keep the integrity on the board, I've accepted the responsibility of calling you out for being stupid.

We don't care about yo or fifa style lineups, we care about you saying stupid things that you know aren't true.

You can't even mention Mckennie without lying, it's super weak.

Pulisic has bad games with the national team, so does Dest, so does Sarg, so does Brooks, so does Adams if he ever gets healthy.

The point is you can't come for Mckennie for no reason and excuse everyone else
Hahahaha oh please, is this a joke? You, of all people, seeking to maintain the integrity of the board?

You, the guy who relentlessly attacks everyone, name calls anyone who disagrees, spews mindless nonsense, curses consistently at anyone who calls you on that nonsense, cries about absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theories, blames most player selections on racism, and generally clutters most threads with straight garbage... are claiming that you want to keep the integrity of the board???

Hahaha thank for providing my daily laugh.

bjelks
Post #65
Monday May 4, 2020 11:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,046
Original post from Lilshmike

Hahahaha oh please, is this a joke? You, of all people, seeking to maintain the integrity of the board?

You, the guy who relentlessly attacks everyone, name calls anyone who disagrees, spews mindless nonsense, curses consistently at anyone who calls you on that nonsense, cries about absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theories, blames most player selections on racism, and generally clutters most threads with straight garbage... are claiming that you want to keep the integrity of the board???

Hahaha thank for providing my daily laugh.


Not sure what the point of your post was or what it has to do with the best lineup, but good job, way to go. Congratulations!

Thanks for your prior post where you agreed with me that Wes is clearly our best 8 right now and no one else is close
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stoked-3
Post #66
Tuesday May 5, 2020 3:08am

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 220
Original post from Dave

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While I like Holmes he hasn't been healthy enough to prove he's an International level player...yet. As far as McKennie, he's shown at both the club and the international level he's a valuable contributor. Additionally, you say McKennie is "a decent player surrounded by better players on his (club) team." Unfortunately due to injuries and other issues, McKennie has not had much time at the international level with our best players. Once everyone is back from COVID-19...we should be able to see our best players. A couple camps/games together and we'll finally be able to see what we really have to work with.
With the right formation and game plan there is no reason why Adams, McKennie, Holmes, Pulisic, & Reyna couldn't be deployed together in a well balanced formation....
-------Sargent-------
-Pulisic----------Reyna--
-------Holmes-------
----McKennie----Adams----
A. Robinson---Brooks---Miazga---Dest
--------Steffens-------
Bench: Ferreira, Morris, Llanez, Weah, Pomykal, Hyndman, Yueill, Cannon/Yedlin, Richards, M. Robinson/Alvarado, Horvath, Johnson/Hamid
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If we are playing a weak opponent we can pull Holmes/McKennie and push Pulisic more centrally to insert another wide attacker (Weah or Llanez).
If we need more defensive bite we can pull Reyna and insert a Pomykal/Hyndman in as a wide player.
Injury Reserves: Long, CCV, EPB, Morales, Aaronson, Lledezma, Jozy, Guzan


Dave I like ur lineup ALOT. Based on injuries, tinkering, and for fun I would like to see

---------Sarg-------
-Pulisic----Reyna-----Dest--
-------Holmes-------
---- McKennie--------
A. Robinson---Robinson---Alvarado---Adams
--------Horvath---

Im not banking on Brooks being healthy
Want to see Richards or EPB as backup
Love Steffan but he is starting to pick up knocks our number 2
holmes desrves to get more time
hate adams at RB but since he is playing their at club lets see how it wrks
I would love to see Dest up top
Green should see time as a play maker under the striker as well
I like what they young guys showed so would like to see: ULY, Ferriera, get time

Samtom23
Post #67
Tuesday May 5, 2020 8:59am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 574
For fun, I'd like to see

-Ferreira-

Pulisic-ULi--Reyna

--Holmes --

--McKennie-

Dest-M.Robinson-Duncan-Adams

-Horvath-

I debate using Reyna as the attacking midfielder. He reminds me a little of Kovaic for Chelsea. But that left a hole on the right wing. I like Adams as the defensive mid more and prior to injury felt his importance might be greater than Pulisic. If Weah and Steffen healthy would've had them.

I haven't seen much footage of EPB and Richards but want to see more of them. I think Miagza could be adequate but not exceptional as a centre back. But want to keep Dest in back because of who he gets forward and having Adams in the back alleviates pressure from Dest. I think Sargent needs a kick in the ass. So more of a message to reach his potential. If not someone like Ferrari may take your starting spot.

whyneverme
Post #68
Tuesday May 5, 2020 8:08pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 101
Original post from Samtom23

For fun, I'd like to see

-Ferreira-

Pulisic-ULi-Reyna

-Holmes -

-McKennie-

Dest-M.Robinson-Duncan-Adams

-Horvath-

I debate using Reyna as the attacking midfielder. He reminds me a little of Kovaic for Chelsea. But that left a hole on the right wing. I like Adams as the defensive mid more and prior to injury felt his importance might be greater than Pulisic. If Weah and Steffen healthy would've had them.

I haven't seen much footage of EPB and Richards but want to see more of them. I think Miagza could be adequate but not exceptional as a centre back. But want to keep Dest in back because of who he gets forward and having Adams in the back alleviates pressure from Dest. I think Sargent needs a kick in the ass. So more of a message to reach his potential. If not someone like Ferrari may take your starting spot.


Remind me again who is Duncan?

bjelks
Post #69
Tuesday May 5, 2020 8:52pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,046
Lol, so many red flags in this lineup.

We're gonna bench our Bundesliga striker for an mls player.

Move Ully to a 10 position he doesn't even play

Move Holmes out of his preferred 10

Take the box to box freedom away from our best box to box mid

Taking our most important player out of his preferred position where he affects the game the most and moving him to Rb when we have a rb that's rated by Bayern

Move Dest to his weaker side where he can't whip in a left footed cross and struggles defensively

Then play our least experienced center backs at the position that requires the most experience
when you have a solid Bundesliga CB, a top 5 CB in the Championship, the top CB in Austria, and the highest rated CB in Bayern's youth system

This is silly
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Samtom23
Post #70
Wednesday May 6, 2020 3:42am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 574
That's the beauty of it Bjelks, it's just for the theory. I will make my counter point. I do like Reyna and Holmes changing spots. I want to Reyna play like Kovocaic for Chelsea. Ideally, I don't like Holmes on the wing but because Weah is injured settle for that.

For Sargent, he only has three goals in 18 games. I think he is better than that and needs to be pushed at club and country. I don't see Jozy or Xardes will push Sargent but Ferreira might.

As far as Brooks. Yes, he is our best but he is the Aron Johanneson of Central defenders. Not opposed to EBP but haven't seen much of him.

Dest plays lb for Ajax if I recall and I see him like Alphonso Davies at Bayern, playing left back to add an additional attacking effect.

bjelks
Post #71
Wednesday May 6, 2020 4:02pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,046
I wouldn't want Reyna at 8 where he would have much more defensive responsibility and ground to cover.
I would want him in a freer role higher.

You can't measure strikers by number of goals which are usually out of their control. You have to assess their quality, work rate, and decision making.
Josh was a victim of bad situation this yr. strikers need cohesion and confidence.

Dest plays some lb in a pinch, but his primary position is rb. He's better in the attack on the right side where he can go in goal side. Alphonso and Dest are different players in many ways. Alphonso is a pure left footer that has elite straight line speed.
Dest is an elite right footed dribbler that projects better forward in possession from the right side.

The best way to learn more about EPB is to call him and play him. I think that's a common massive mistake American fans and media make, saying because I haven't seen a player the mls players I watch every week must be better. I don't watch Juventus every week, but I know for sure their CBs are better than Miles R and Duncan.
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Scout92
Lone Star State
Post #72
Thursday May 7, 2020 8:23pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,529
Gregg's mind picking his 11:

---Guzan/Johnson---
Cannon-Long-Brooks-Gasper
-----Yueil----
Morris-Roldan-Mckennie-Pulisic
------Zardes-------

My 11:

-----Guzan-----
Yedlin-Miazga-Brooks-Dest
------Adams-----
---Holmes--Mckennie
Reyna--Sargent---Pulisic

Samtom23
Post #73
Friday May 8, 2020 2:37am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 574
Revised

-Ferreira-

Pulisic-Uly--Morris(Weah when healthy)

-Reyna--

--Adams/McKennie

Dest-M.Robinon (Brooks, if healthy)-EPB-Cannon/Duncan

-Horvath(Steffen)

Start off by saying, I mistakenly remembered Duncan as a CB, but he is a RB. I would like to see him In camp. Because he seems to go all out and reads the game well defensively as opposed to Cannon, who's more offensive.

I do like Dest on the left because Pulisic and Dest would work well together. You lose some of Dest attack but I'll accept that. And Bjelks, I know Davies is fast and his skill set is different from Dest's. But we work with the players available to us. That's partly why I want to give Duncan a look, he is fast and gives up his body, reads the game well and can shut down a forward one on one.

I think Duncan will be in Europe in a year or two. Here is a look and MLS is becoming more of a feeder league.

https://youtu.be/8rFz92EuamE He is also's Weah's cousin so comes from a football family. I think EPB can get a look and Brooks is the sure 1st choice provided he is healthy.

I totally disagree you cannot judge strikers on goals. At the end of the day, a striker needs to put the ball in the net. Yes, other factors matter but to win you must score more goals. Bundesliga or not 3 goals a season is not great production. But I select Ferrira mainly for competition sake.

And Scout not a bad line up for present. My line up is more based on future expectations than current realities.

bjelks
Post #74
Friday May 8, 2020 4:30am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,046
Lol, of course you have to score goals to win but players score goals because of their team creating chances and the striker having the quality to finish.

It's irresponsible to assume scoring goals in mls translates to higher levels.

Wondolowski was an all time great goal scorer in mls and absolutely terrible player at the international level.

It's cool that you like your domestic league and want to promote its players, but that has nothing to do with picking the best players to help the program compete at the highest level.

I understand you rate Miles highly but he's never defended against top level strikers, his 1st touch is shaky, his positioning is shaky and his passing isn't good.

Reggie Cannon's strong suit isn't offense, it's man marking. He's nowhere near Dest's quality on the ball and if you watch the film from the Mexico game he offered nothing going forward.

If you want to legitimately talk about dream lineups for the future, it only makes sense to include names like Antonee Robinson who had a deal done with AC Milan or Kobe Hernandez-Foster who is projected by Brian Kleiban to be the best left back in the history of the program.

If you really want Duncan to get a chance, you should demand that he earn it by playing at a higher level than Yedlin or Chandler, instead of gifting him calls just to meet an mls quota.

If we ever want the USMNT to be taken seriously, we have to start treating it like a competitive sport and not the Good Ole Boy's club.
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Samtom23
Post #75
Saturday May 9, 2020 4:36am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 574
It isn't about MLS or non mls players but creating competition from what's available.

Espn has an article about why USMNT struggles under GB and partly in that article, it is about finishing. And Sergeant's finishing is discussed. I don't want to give the striker position to him. I want him to earn it and we don't have many legitimate options. It is our thinnest position.

Hernandez Foster is 17 and in the USL. He cannot help by 2022. Appears to be a great passer.

You can be good in a second tier league and European clubs see that. That's why EPB, Weston McKennie, Tyler Adams, Matt Miagza are in Europe. They got their start in MLS.

I am just doing like the European clubs. I see a possible talent and take the chance/opportunity and to create depth and competition.

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