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hamsamwich
Post #376
Wednesday July 22, 2020 2:49pm

Joined Oct 2013
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I'm not saying Brooks isn't our top CB- he is that. If we played tomorrow like the thread says I think we all have him in that spot, LCB. I'd just like to see other players given a chance as Brooks and reliable haven't often been in the same sentence.

Steffen is in a similar boat. Injured a lot, and is a "potential" guy. He still doesn't play that great with the ball at his feet. If he can't get many games at City next year, I would have it be a one year experiment and look for a starting job the following year to prepare for the WC. It'll probably be good for his knee to not play as much. I have Sean Johnson as my starter but I've always been a fan of Guzan- and when you look at the ages of the players these days on the field maybe it wouldn't hurt to have the ultra experienced Guzan as our #1.

Pstkeeper
Post #377
Wednesday July 22, 2020 4:56pm

Joined Dec 2017
Total Posts: 24
Lilshmike is absolutely correct, Horvath got shafted. Mignolet was not wanted by anyone and he orchestrated a move to Brugge. He came out in the press and said he wanted to go back to Belgium, wanted his soon to be son born in Belgium and if there was a club he wanted to play for it would be Brugge. Brugge had just sold Wesley and Nakamba to Villa for a combined 37 million euros, plus all the money Brugge made from Champions League, Horvath didn't stand a chance. He had already played in the first two league games and then was told by Brugge that "we didn't have a choice, he chose us". The goalkeeping coach didn't even know Mignolet was bought until the next morning.

The amount of disrespect and disregard Horvath continues to get from the soccer community and media in this country is unbelievable. This guy has been through the wars with Brugge. What he has done with his career and continues to do is exactly what we want from a National Team keeper. Horvath is currently number 3 overall on the list of men's National Team keepers when it comes to European play: Tim Howard 39 games (Champions League/Europa League), Brad Friedel 34 games (Europa League), Ethan Horvath 22 games (Champions League/Europa League), and he just turned 25. This includes playing in Champions League group stage, where UEFA picked him as the keeper for the starting 11 of group stage. This also includes playing in the round of 32, twice for Europa League. He has had some huge performances against some big time clubs in big time environments. Let's also remember he put in two really quality performances for the US Team just a little over a year ago against Italy and Chile.

blaise213
Post #378
Sunday July 26, 2020 5:15am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,106
For those who are calling for Aaronson for the USMNT

No Thanks !!!

Samtom23
Post #379
Sunday July 26, 2020 7:13am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 343
Original post from blaise213

For those who are calling for Aaronson for the USMNT

No Thanks !!!


I will go with Demarcus Beasley

https://twitter.com/PhilaUnion/status/1283270...

blaise213
Post #380
Sunday July 26, 2020 10:18am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,106
Original post from Samtom23

I will go with Demarcus Beasley

https://twitter.com/PhilaUnion/status/1283270...


Ha ! Youth national teams but definitely not the senior team

Maybe he'll go to Europe and improve but right now... NOPE

Samtom23
Post #381
Sunday July 26, 2020 10:42am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 343
Original post from blaise213

Ha ! Youth national teams but definitely not the senior team

Maybe he'll go to Europe and improve but right now... NOPE


If you're in favour of Konrad being called up then Aaronson has just a legitimate argument.

bjelks
Post #382
Sunday July 26, 2020 1:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,664
Konrad is a different level technically than BA. Konrad's first touch, dribbling, passing, combo play, finishing are a different quality than BA. I'm not comparing BA to Konrad, I'm saying that even right now today, he's a higher level player than Jordan Morris.
goalsense
Samtom23
Post #383
Sunday July 26, 2020 2:24pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 343
Original post from bjelks

Konrad is a different level technically than BA. Konrad's first touch, dribbling, passing, combo play, finishing are a different quality than BA. I'm not comparing BA to Konrad, I'm saying that even right now today, he's a higher level player than Jordan Morris.


Until Konrad plays first team minutes he is a prospect and you cannot say he is definitely better than Jordan Morris.

bjelks
Post #384
Sunday July 26, 2020 5:02pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,664
Original post from Samtom23

Until Konrad plays first team minutes he is a prospect and you cannot say he is definitely better than Jordan Morris.


1) If you know how to evaluate the game with your eyes, you can definitely look at player A and say he's definitely better than player B
2) I find it a bit silly that you rate MLS so highly that you think you have to be in Barca's 1st team to be definitely better than someone who's not even an MLS All Star
3) Konrad's Barca B is valued higher than Sounders, so you could make a strong argument that it's more difficult to make Barca reserves than Sounders starting lineup
4) Lastly, the avg value of teams and players in MLS is marginally better than Segunda, here's a resource for your reference

globalfootballrankings.com
goalsense
hamsamwich
Post #385
Sunday July 26, 2020 6:10pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,303
As far as Konrad- he's in the boat with Chris Richards and a few others who need a good move for the upcoming season. He needs a new challenge that suits him better than the tiki taka of Barca he isn't that kind of player. They've developed him but it's time to move on.

And for Morris like I said pulling a Donovan was hard to take for a lot of us. At his age he still can make a move but it's starting to become too late.

Am I the only one looking forward to an Adams-McKennie-Reyna midfield???

stoked-3
Post #386
Sunday July 26, 2020 6:31pm

Joined Mar 2020
Total Posts: 36
Original post from hamsamwich

I'm not saying Brooks isn't our top CB- he is that. If we played tomorrow like the thread says I think we all have him in that spot, LCB. I'd just like to see other players given a chance as Brooks and reliable haven't often been in the same sentence.

Steffen is in a similar boat. Injured a lot, and is a "potential" guy. He still doesn't play that great with the ball at his feet. If he can't get many games at City next year, I would have it be a one year experiment and look for a starting job the following year to prepare for the WC. It'll probably be good for his knee to not play as much. I have Sean Johnson as my starter but I've always been a fan of Guzan- and when you look at the ages of the players these days on the field maybe it wouldn't hurt to have the ultra experienced Guzan as our #1.


We need to look at CB options: you hit it on the head Brooks is not reliable. I'll go ahead and predict that he will be hurt come WC and our starting Cb will be Robinson/Long.

GB will not look at EPB, Richards, and will be at home scouting mls only.

But on a serious note looks like Richards will be added to the 1st team for champions leauge and will train with 1st team nxt yr. Can he hang at Int levels who knows, does he have more upside than Zimmerman/Ream/Omar/ -would like to see alvardo get a look as well

Samtom23
Post #387
Sunday July 26, 2020 6:38pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 343
Original post from bjelks

1) If you know how to evaluate the game with your eyes, you can definitely look at player A and say he's definitely better than player B
2) I find it a bit silly that you rate MLS so highly that you think you have to be in Barca's 1st team to be definitely better than someone who's not even an MLS All Star
3) Konrad's Barca B is valued higher than Sounders, so you could make a strong argument that it's more difficult to make Barca reserves than Sounders starting lineup
4) Lastly, the avg value of teams and players in MLS is marginally better than Segunda, here's a resource for your reference

globalfootballrankings.com


At the U 20 World Cup last year Konrad wasn't one of our top five performers. I think when he went against other young internationals that gave us a better idea of where his game is at. He is a year older and I feel like he has developed. But not enough to say he is a lock starter or definitely better than any other wing options.

bjelks
Post #388
Monday July 27, 2020 12:36am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,664
Original post from Samtom23

At the U 20 World Cup last year Konrad wasn't one of our top five performers. I think when he went against other young internationals that gave us a better idea of where his game is at. He is a year older and I feel like he has developed. But not enough to say he is a lock starter or definitely better than any other wing options.


Konrad showed plenty of quality with the U20s, just didn't have the end product but that doesn't mean he's any less of a big talent.
Wouldn't call him a lock starter, but definitely another level above Morris and Arriola.

He's built quite a buzz so hopefully he can secure a loan move to La Liga or Bundesliga.
goalsense
Samtom23
Post #389
Monday July 27, 2020 12:44am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 343
Original post from bjelks

Konrad showed plenty of quality with the U20s, just didn't have the end product but that doesn't mean he's any less of a big talent.
Wouldn't call him a lock starter, but definitely another level above Morris and Arriola.

He's built quite a buzz so hopefully he can secure a loan move to La Liga or Bundesliga.


His three career goals doesn't indicate he is at another level. When he secures a move away and produces then there will be a better idea of where he is at. Richards seems to be ahead of him in early career trajectory because he is closer to achieving first team minutes.

bjelks
Post #390
Monday July 27, 2020 5:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,664
Interesting thoughts on Chris Richards by Kleiban. He said 1st team mins or not, he's clearly better than Long, Zman, and Ream right now and he can handle concacaf with his eyes closed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hBzkb7Lw6KA

@Samtom23 Konrad is another level from Morris and Arriola because of his technical ability and quality on the ball. You don't have to take my word for it, but the difference between casuals and knowledgeable soccer Monda is understanding that.
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