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db707
Post #1
Monday December 30, 2019 8:30pm

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The roster is out. Also playing in Carson, CA against Costa Rica February 1, in addition to the Qatar camp.

Goakeepers: Sean Johnson (New York City), Bill Hamid (D.C.), JT Marcinkowski (San Jose), Matt Turner (New England)

Defenders: Julian Araujo (LA Galaxy), Reggie Cannon (Dallas), Chase Gasper (Minnesota), Justen Glad (Salt Lake), Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls), Mark McKenzie (Philadelphia), Sam Vines (Colorado), Walker Zimmerman (Los Angeles)

Midfielders: Brenden Aaronson (Philadelphia), Christian Cappis (Hobro, Denmark), Bryang Kayo (no club), Sebastian Lletget (LA Galaxy), Paxton Pomykal (Dallas), Cristian Roldan (Seattle), Jackson Yueill (San Jose)

Forwards: Paul Arriola (D.C.), Jesus Ferreira (Dallas), Jonathan Lewis (Colorado), Ulysses Llanez (Wolfsburg, Germany), Jordan Morris (Seattle), Gyasi Zardes (Columbus)

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #2
Monday December 30, 2019 8:58pm

Joined May 2013
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I suffer from internet USMNT roster poisoning is this a good or great roster?

Know Nothing
Post #3
Monday December 30, 2019 9:22pm

Joined Jan 2013
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I don't hate it and at the very least he is trying new players.

My big criticism would be if you are willing to bring Bryang Kayo into camp, why would you be unwilling to bring in the likes of EPB, Richards, and Ledezma during the full international window? I realize the circumstances here are vastly different from the regular window where the full squad is called in and this is just a camp to identify potential depth. But at the end of the day the mission is the same and invariably you will only be identifying depth from a small portion of the pool.

I notice Miles Robinson is not on the list...did Atlanta block his involvement because of Champions league commitments? Could the same be true for Hyndman...would have thought he would be in with a shout as well. Or even Nagbe. Strange no Atlanta players.

Small rant...why not bring in someone Hines Ike who is on break into the camp to get a measure of him and release him when his season restarts?

BMD15
Boston
Post #4
Monday December 30, 2019 10:44pm

Joined Oct 2015
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Atlanta said no to their guys being involved...

https://twitter.com/RobUsry/status/1211725942...
NETID
Know Nothing
Post #5
Monday December 30, 2019 11:08pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from BMD15

Atlanta said no to their guys being involved...

https://twitter.com/RobUsry/status/1211725942...


Thanks, thought it might be the case. If that tweet is accurate, surprised Lennon was named and Hyndman did not. I am not suggesting he is high on the pecking order, but he isn't Christian Roldan

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #6
Tuesday December 31, 2019 1:20am

Joined May 2013
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I get the roster is very youth heavy, but what's up with the Lima exclusion?

He's done well with his opportunities...especially up field.

He's not even listed as a snub by the pundits...weird.

camparkinson
Post #7
Tuesday December 31, 2019 2:09am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 335
Yea Lima also can play LB and for some reason was never given a shot there... still very odd with how well he's played in all chances given...

Know Nothing
Post #8
Tuesday December 31, 2019 5:46am

Joined Jan 2013
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I've given up trying to figure out GGG's rationale on roster selection. One would think Roldan has played his way off the roster but GGG keeps calling him.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Tuesday December 31, 2019 3:53pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I like the roster. People are always going to find something to complain about.

Yes Atlanta declined releases for Brooks Lennon, Miles Robinson, and Guzan.

Which makes it likely Lennon and Robinson won't be released for Olympic Qualifying.

We may not qualify again. MLS teams are becoming more and more reluctant to release players when its not a FIFA event. Olympics are not a FIFA event. Clubs don't have to release.

Dave
Post #10
Wednesday January 1, 2020 4:28am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,008
A little disappointed that Atlanta didn't release their players. Would have liked to have seen how some of them could have done after an extended camp....
M. Robinson - Most complete young CB playing in MLS. Would have been interesting to see how he'd match up against Zimmerman in the depth Chart.
Hyndamn - We need someone who can play a more attacking CM role. I would have liked to see how he could fair in the role Roldan tends to play.
Lennon - Not sure how he fits into the equation, but he couldn't be any worse than Baird was the last couple times he saw the field for the USMNT.
Guzan - Is a known quantity and at his age I have no problem with him not being in Camp.
Of those called into camp I'm most interested in seeing:
New faces at Left Back - Gasper & Vines may be down the pecking order a bit from our top tier options (Dest, A. Robinson, Ream, Gloster)....but it'll be nice to see someone other than Lovitz get a shot at the back-up role.
Hoping to see a nice run out of some of the younger CM's. Guys like Pomykal, Cappis Aaronson. I'm hoping we can find some depth behind Adams & McKennie....as well as a replacement for Roldan, who's underwhelmed in most of his USMNT outings.
On the attacking front I'm hoping that Llanez & Ferreira will prove to be options to challenge some of the more stagnant placeholder players (Baird & Arriola). They may not be ready for the Sr. Team yet....but hopefully will show potential for the future.

munns5986
Post #11
Wednesday January 1, 2020 3:36pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 273
Original post from 2tone

I like the roster. People are always going to find something to complain about.

Yes Atlanta declined releases for Brooks Lennon, Miles Robinson, and Guzan.

Which makes it likely Lennon and Robinson won't be released for Olympic Qualifying.

We may not qualify again. MLS teams are becoming more and more reluctant to release players when its not a FIFA event. Olympics are not a FIFA event. Clubs don't have to release.


Can't confirm it but if US Soccer is trying to help MLS grow and have a heavy hand in then MLS teams need to respond in kind. Not worried about these friendlies but Olympic qualifying is a different story.

db707
Post #12
Saturday January 4, 2020 2:46am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,030
Well, Qatar trip is off for this year, looks like they will hold camp somewhere in the U.S. after all.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #13
Saturday January 11, 2020 5:40pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,174
https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2020/01/usmn...

Servania added to the roster

Know Nothing
Post #14
Sunday January 26, 2020 5:12pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,726
Match roster is out:

GOALKEEPERS (3): Sean Johnson (New York City FC; 8/0), Bill Hamid (D.C. United; 6/0), Matt Turner (New England Revolution; 0/0)

DEFENDERS (8): Julian Araujo (LA Galaxy; 0/0), Reggie Cannon (FC Dallas; 10/0), Chase Gasper (Minnesota United FC; 0/0), Justen Glad (Real Salt Lake; 0/0), Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls; 16/3), Mark McKenzie (Philadelphia Union; 0/0), Sam Vines (Colorado Rapids; 0/0), Walker Zimmerman (LAFC; 11/2)

MIDFIELDERS (6): Brenden Aaronson (Philadelphia Union; 0/0), Christian Cappis (Hobro/DEN; 0/0), Bryang Kayo (Unattached; 0/0), Sebastian Lletget (LA Galaxy; 13/2), Brandon Servania (FC Dallas; 0/0), Jackson Yueill (San Jose Earthquakes; 6/0)

FORWARDS (5): Paul Arriola (D.C. United; 32/5), Jesus Ferreira (FC Dallas; 0/0), Jonathan Lewis (Colorado Rapids; 5/0), Ulysses Llanez (Wolfsburg/GER; 0/0), Gyasi Zardes (Columbus Crew SC; 55/12)

My rant continues...this is not a knock on the abilities of Bryang Kano, but rather the inconsistency in player selection.

We have argued ad nauseum about whether a player not playing first team soccer should be called. Some have argued they must and have defended the coach's position when talents like Reyna and Ledezma were not called to be tried.

After so many full international windows where we have not experimented and have been forced to watch the same MLS players struggle at the internatonal level and continue to earn their spot, we get an unattached player added to the roster.

Unattached, to me, means not playing first team soccer. I realize this is only camp cupcake, but every time you select a roster you are setting a precedent. I realize this is not the international window and certain players cannot be called, but certainly if there is a criteria where first team soccer is a must another MLS player could have been called. Canouse maybe?

Hopefully this will open the door for a little more experimentation with an eye towards integration.

All the best to Bryang Kano.

Lilshmike
Post #15
Monday January 27, 2020 7:59pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,309
Kayo is unattached because his contract expired at the end of the MLS/USL season. He didn't sign a new contract in the US because he is 17 years old and he is planning to go to Europe when he turns 18. As a result, he is listed as "unattached" because he is not currently under contract by a club, as he can't sign one overseas until he turns 18 and heads across the pond. And its not like he hasn't been playing - Kayo played USL this last season.

Remember... all of the MLS names on the roster are out of season, so although Kayo is listed as "unattached" its not as though he has been missing out on games or anything like that when compared to every other person in camp. He has been operating on the same timeline as everyone else for the most part.

Look, I'm not defending the Kayo call-up, only pointing out that getting uptight over the "unattached" title really isn't a big deal or inconsistent when you look at the reality of the situation.

To be clear, I don't think USL meets the mark for a player getting called in, and this seems to me like Berhalter is throwing the kid a bone to get him in the senior USMNT set-up (since hes been in the youth set-up) while he waits to go overseas (something that everyone on this site complains about and wants to see more of), while simultaneously providing him with a potential boost to his overseas suitors and prospects by checking the Senior USMNT player box on his resume. But considering its camp cupcake, I don't see the problem with it.

And for the record, its not a crime that Reyna or Ledezma have not been called. Ledezma is still in the 2nd division in Holland - he needs to do better. Up until recently, Reyna was with the youth team at Dortmund - which was not good enough. Both of those guys are also playing right now with their clubs, so a call-up for this camp was unrealistic to begin with. So yeah... absolutely no crime or issue to bring them up as exclusions up to this point in time. Reyna is building an argument for March, but objectively speaking, Ledezma still has not been convincing enough.

Cappis and Llanez are the only European outliers in this group, and Cappis is out of season (just like the MLS guys) and Llanez is with the youth team for his club so leaving Germany isn't a big issue.

Again, players in USL and youth/lower 2nd division leagues in Europe shouldn't be making the cut. I would like to see Canouse, that is noteworthy. But considering its camp cupcake... whatever. Not a big deal and nothing to get uptight over.

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