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blaise213
Post #46
Thursday October 17, 2019 11:47pm

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Joao Lucas is in the U-23 camp I think

The rumor with Robert Kenedy was he was born in Miami, mom ripped up his birth certificate and they moved to Brazil. Any other news I haven't heard ?

hamsamwich
Post #47
Friday October 18, 2019 12:18am

Joined Oct 2013
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This thread is a continuation of all the rest it's basically a running dialogue we have.

So like before we you called us all crazy and keyboard warriors and whatever else- what do you have to say about the upcoming friendlies, team structure or the USSF in general? What to do to make it better? These guys running the show are insiders and dinosaurs and we don't have to just go along with all of it. Suggesting a coach play to his players strengths and what they do week in week out at their clubs (your own criteria if you recall) is hardly drastic.

Lilshmike
Post #48
Friday October 18, 2019 12:20am

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from blaise213

Joao Lucas is in the U-23 camp I think

The rumor with Robert Kenedy was he was born in Miami, mom ripped up his birth certificate and they moved to Brazil. Any other news I haven't heard ?
No, hadn't heard about any birth certificates being ripped up.

I thought that the rumor of being born in Miami was simply a rumor and that he was born somewhere in Brazil. Maybe your calling in life is to start PI firm to track down players eligible for multiple nations.

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #49
Friday October 18, 2019 2:08am

Joined Oct 2014
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GB is a good MLS coach, prob is he is the Nats coach. What I do respect is that he is trying to build a proactive style of play-one that I advocated for. The issue is his player selection. And lack of tactical game management at this level.

I would have said give him time but we don't have time-we wasted a yr hiring him-

We need to try the technical "unproven" Euro guys and different mls guys. Keep calling in the same players is beyond stupid when it is not producing results. So not only did we waste a yr, but we wasted then another yr bringing in players that "understood" his system. And where are we at? Well playing Trapp, Roldon, Lovitt, Subbing a guy who is choosing us or Netherlands, subbing Pulisic for Ariola, sure CP looked bad but he was isolated and if he was sick should not have played him-really hurts him at his club to be pulled for Ariola what a joke.

I would like to see a game where we put guys who suck from mls that always get called in, vs different MLS guys. Take the stand out from those games and make a starting 11 that would play the fringe euro guys.

We can NOT afford to continue this path. GB player selection, position, starters etc is baffling. Why didn't Robinson play? Well he was hurt practicing after the cuba game-ridiculous management. Why didn't that young kid play against cuba? Why was bradley in instead of Jackson? why play roldon when SL is on the bench-say what you want but he plays well for the Nats.

Many on this board defend the call ups and say we don't have the players we think we do, only problem is we don't know what we have b.c we don't try anything new.

GB thinks he is so much smarter than everyone else his system will make Trapp into a int star. And here we are, piling on Cuba with our core players instead of trying new guys, then losing to Canada. We have been handled by mexico-so the time is now to figure out a path to qualifying bc we are out of time, and our mls call ups and some euro vets need to go.

I firmly believe we do have talent that can help this team if given the chance
Stoked
Lilshmike
Post #50
Friday October 18, 2019 3:26am

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from hamsamwich

This thread is a continuation of all the rest it's basically a running dialogue we have.

So like before we you called us all crazy and keyboard warriors and whatever else- what do you have to say about the upcoming friendlies, team structure or the USSF in general? What to do to make it better? These guys running the show are insiders and dinosaurs and we don't have to just go along with all of it. Suggesting a coach play to his players strengths and what they do week in week out at their clubs (your own criteria if you recall) is hardly drastic.
Quote where I have called everyone crazy. I may have said that calling on kids without professional experience is crazy talk, but havent called everyone crazy. You have a habit, like bjelks, of putting words in my mouth. Post a link to a thread where I have said that or you're just flat out spewing nonsense.

Yes, I have consistently stated that there is a reason that people like us sit behind keyboards while people like GGG and those in US Soccer are where they are. I'm not the only one to say that either... but I don't see you calling them out or trying to pick a fight out of nowhere.

But since you insist on starting some type of dialogue (seemingly to try to get me to stumble on some sort of "gotcha" statements that you can then use against me), I'm happy to engage and clarify my positions - which I have done now multiple times for you...

Since the beginning, I've always I felt as though Gregg would simply do the job. He wouldn't elevate us to another level, but he would at least get the job done and get us into the WC. We would perform in line with expectations. Qualification hasn't started yet, so we aren't in danger of not qualifying yet when we haven't even played a game in the Hex... so don't even bring up some hypothetical on that stance because its pointless.

I've stated more than once that I had no reason to distrust in him, nor did I have reason to trust in his process. I neither liked nor disliked him, I was indifferent. It very much has been a "wait and see" type of environment. Was he the right guy or the best guy? I'm not sure. Of course theres the issue with the "what if" list of managers who weren't interviewed... but there are certain reasons that some people get jobs and others don't, and considering that non of us were part of those back room conversations, I don't choose to believe that it was some grand conspiracy that Berhalter got the job... yet.

I will also note that I was fully aware of the potential conflict of interest with GGGs brother, and candidly, I think I was the first person on this site to even bring it up in the thread where we were talking about new managers. Fact check that if you care to, but I'm pretty sure thats the case.

Back to Gregg. His first real competition was the Gold Cup... and although you and many others count finishing 2nd to Mexico in a tight 1-0 loss a failure (when we pretty much finished first in every other category throughout the tournament), I view it as in-line with what our expectation and talent level is currently when compared to our opponents in Concacaf... so as a result, there was nothing to be upset over in my mind because (for all intents and purposes) he generally passed. The USMNT lost to a superior opponent. As annoying as it was because it was Mexico, there is no real shame in that.

That being said, I have respect for Berhalter trying to get the USMNT to play a more dynamic style than kick and run, counter attacking soccer. HOWEVER, it must be noted that its easier to implement this for a club, not a national team. Coaching a national team is much different than a club, as I posted in the October Nations League thread, and success doesn't happen overnight... especially when a big number of the better players in your pool are perpetually injured, not in form or getting club minutes. From that perspective, the odds are against him and you have to expect there to be a couple bumps in the road before you get things right.

Admittedly, and this has come under the microscope this week, the USSF didn't do itself or Berhalter any favors with the delayed hiring. Initially, I didn't view it as much of an issue. I still think its a little more overblown than it needs to be, but the reality is that regardless of the timing and no matter who the coach is, we should still be getting better results.

Ok... so lets take a step back real quick and think about something. We lost to Canada. Freaking Canada. Was Carlos Cordeiro on the field the other night? Were the powers that be at the USSF or SUM on the field? No... so what do they have to do with our loss to Canada? With the exception of a few guys who are out due to injury... this is pretty much our national team right now. McKennie, Steffen, Yedlin, Long, Pulisic, for you I'll even throw in Sargent... all were on the field and didn't get the job done. Thats the best we've got for the most part, and they didn't get the job done against Canada... thats not USSFs fault. What did they have to do with that? We should have won, regardless of the circumstances, and we didnt...

Where is the problem though? For me, I'm not sure. In my view, we have lacked desire and urgency, especially in the game against Canada. We're complacent. Canada was coming at us all night and we just took it like little chumps. Now, is that on the players or the coach? I'm not quite sure, but in any event, its still not good enough from the players.

As I have stated countless times, as it currently stands we we simply lack the quality that people expect. People are delusional to think we are world beaters when we aren't right now with our current pool. And it isn't like throwing in some kid who is on a youth team in Germany, or a reserve team in Holland, or getting 60 minutes a season in Brazil is going to change that. It won't. Picking those kids over MLS guys is like having 6 in one hand vs half a dozen in the other. Either way, its not good enough.

Now... one of the biggest issues is Berhalters player selections. I too think that some of the guys that he calls in consistently are absurd. Lovitz, Zardes, Trapp, Roldan, and to a lesser extent Lima. Outside of that, pretty much everyone else he calls in should be there. As I have stated before though, people are pissing and moaning over... what, 4 or 5 spots that are up for grabs? Maybe an additional 3 or 4 if you count rotating guys like Yuiell, Aaronson, Zim, Cannon, what have you. Like it or not, Bradley and Jozy are still in the 23, and a healthy Jozy is leading the line... but when Adams, Brooks, Weah, and likely Morales, are all healthy... you have to expect they're in the 23, so the number of spots up for grabs drops again.

Ever coach has oddball favorites. This was covered in the October Nations League thread as well, so I won't go there. But it is telling as time has gone on that some of the "favorites" have seen reduced roles (ie. Zardes and Trapp). Roldan and Lovitz need to go... but given the pool GGG had to choose from this last time around, there really weren't a whole lot of options. As a result, I am not up in arms about those guys getting called in... especially when they were playing against Canada. Freaking Canada. Roldan, Bradley, Lovitz... those guys didn't cost us that game. Collectively it wasn't good enough.

Moving forward towards the upcoming friendlies, I expect to see a few new faces, as there should be. Not a lot, but a few. Who? IDK, I'll think about it and make another post on it. But as a general rule, guys selected should be playing for their club's first team at a level on par or greater than MLS. Certainly there are exceptions, but that is the criteria.

Based on what we see from November, I think we will find out a lot from both Berhalter and the players. If we bounce back and thrash both teams... good on them. If we see a few new faces, great, as we should. But if we struggle and/or Canada finishes top of our group... I'm going to be pissed.

Up until these most recent games, I have very much been on the "stick with GGG" train until he gives us a reason not to. However, I'm beginning to lean more towards the "his time is ticking" train. If he doesn't get things right before January, I'm buying a train ticket. Who knows if I'll hop on it, but I will be much more against him than with him unless/until he turns it around.

That being said, If the USSF was going to make a decision on whether to stick with him or not, they need to make that call before camp cupcake and before Jay (allegedly) gets promoted to CEO. And if there is anyone who they would hire, there is legitimately only one name in my mind that stands out as the obvious answer... Tab Ramos.

Is that good enough for you ham? And don't start putting words in my mouth again as you have done in the past, even after I gave clear answers to your questions.

Lilshmike
Post #51
Friday October 18, 2019 3:29am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from stoked3

GB is a good MLS coach, prob is he is the Nats coach. What I do respect is that he is trying to build a proactive style of play-one that I advocated for. The issue is his player selection. And lack of tactical game management at this level.

I would have said give him time but we don't have time-we wasted a yr hiring him-

We need to try the technical "unproven" Euro guys and different mls guys. Keep calling in the same players is beyond stupid when it is not producing results. So not only did we waste a yr, but we wasted then another yr bringing in players that "understood" his system. And where are we at? Well playing Trapp, Roldon, Lovitt, Subbing a guy who is choosing us or Netherlands, subbing Pulisic for Ariola, sure CP looked bad but he was isolated and if he was sick should not have played him-really hurts him at his club to be pulled for Ariola what a joke.

I would like to see a game where we put guys who suck from mls that always get called in, vs different MLS guys. Take the stand out from those games and make a starting 11 that would play the fringe euro guys.

We can NOT afford to continue this path. GB player selection, position, starters etc is baffling. Why didn't Robinson play? Well he was hurt practicing after the cuba game-ridiculous management. Why didn't that young kid play against cuba? Why was bradley in instead of Jackson? why play roldon when SL is on the bench-say what you want but he plays well for the Nats.

Many on this board defend the call ups and say we don't have the players we think we do, only problem is we don't know what we have b.c we don't try anything new.

GB thinks he is so much smarter than everyone else his system will make Trapp into a int star. And here we are, piling on Cuba with our core players instead of trying new guys, then losing to Canada. We have been handled by mexico-so the time is now to figure out a path to qualifying bc we are out of time, and our mls call ups and some euro vets need to go.

I firmly believe we do have talent that can help this team if given the chance
I'm calling you out because you're making the guy a scapegoat right now when he legitimately didn't even play the last 2 games. Like, seriously. Come on man.

If you're upset that you think he is taking a spot from another kid who could maybe get a look, I get that, but you're blowing smoke on something that just isn't true... as evidenced by his role with the USMNT the last couple of games/FIFA windows.

Spank
661
Post #52
Friday October 18, 2019 5:11am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 132
IDGAF who's calling out who, at the end of the day this team isn't winning games and Berhalter and his selections aren't working. @Lilshmike you can defend Berhalter and the system all you want but it's simply not working. Who's fault is it? What has Berhalter done that you have so much faith in him? We missed a World Cup because of this poorly run federation and the same people running it then are the same ones running it now. In fact, we are probably worse now because we no longer have Gulati. We all wanted him out so bad but at least he had the balls to go against the wishes of MLS and hired JK. Plain and simple, this shit isn't working and it's time to burn it all down.

Lilshmike
Post #53
Friday October 18, 2019 6:26am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from Spank

IDGAF who's calling out who, at the end of the day this team isn't winning games and Berhalter and his selections aren't working. @Lilshmike you can defend Berhalter and the system all you want but it's simply not working. Who's fault is it? What has Berhalter done that you have so much faith in him? We missed a World Cup because of this poorly run federation and the same people running it then are the same ones running it now. In fact, we are probably worse now because we no longer have Gulati. We all wanted him out so bad but at least he had the balls to go against the wishes of MLS and hired JK. Plain and simple, this shit isn't working and it's time to burn it all down.
Dude... do you have a problem with reading? I literally just posted that I've been indifferent on the guy, didn't think he would elevate the program, am more against him than with him, and that overall (players and coach alike) it just simply isn't good enough right now.

Seems like reading comprehensions is a widespread issue on this site... either that, or a lot of people suffer from the same bias by targeting the messenger instead of the message.

hamsamwich
Post #54
Friday October 18, 2019 1:05pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Maybe it's a semantic thing then bud.

Talking hypotheticals is what being a soccer and sports fans is all about? Down 5, at the super bowl I went to, do the bears still lose to the colts if Rex grossman doesn't throw a stupid idiot pass that was returned for a touchdown and ended the game? Or would an off tackle run have changed things? **The American favorite- what if Landon was at the 2014 WC? What if McBride was German would he have scored like Klose? What about... "are we good enough for all the Berhalter stuff?" There's plenty of stuff to speculate about.

The USSF have created a comfortable nest for their brother (literally) in arms Gregg. He is under no pressure whatsoever in fact Stewart got a better job and raise for hiring Gregg. Failure and apathy are rife in the organization, one that enabled this to begin with.

So to speculate, we go into the hex with Mexico being pencilled in because of their talent, their COACH (we dropped the ball there not interviewing Martino), and their momentum as compared to the rest of the group. That leaves USA, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Panama and Canada (I believe) to slug it out for 2 spots from 5. To say we aren't in danger of not qualifying is the same ostrich mentality that led to players being carried over a water moat in Couva.

How is something going to magically change in November?? IF Adams returns then he can play the 6 (a fan not a Berhalter idea) and for once we may control the middle of the field again. But expecting a change suddenly when we've seen so much evidence to the contrary seems like wishing. Don't give me the 1-0 loss to Mexico. After 15 minutes of USA fluffing a few chances Martino sussed out USA and we did nothing. It was all Mexico. That advantage was then increased in the recent friendly where Mexico suffocated us. That's a huge negative on Berhalter and his plan. He routinely gets outcoached and so we can expect more of that.

I explained that the McKennie, Pulisic, Sargent etc are being neutered because of how we play not because they are playing. They are being wasted as I described before. Maybe you disagree with me on that, that's fair it's a tactical point. But did you see Pulisic face and his frustration that was real.

Lilshmike
Post #55
Friday October 18, 2019 2:47pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from hamsamwich

Maybe it's a semantic thing then bud.

Talking hypotheticals is what being a soccer and sports fans is all about? Down 5, at the super bowl I went to, do the bears still lose to the colts if Rex grossman doesn't throw a stupid idiot pass that was returned for a touchdown and ended the game? Or would an off tackle run have changed things? **The American favorite- what if Landon was at the 2014 WC? What if McBride was German would he have scored like Klose? What about... "are we good enough for all the Berhalter stuff?" There's plenty of stuff to speculate about.

The USSF have created a comfortable nest for their brother (literally) in arms Gregg. He is under no pressure whatsoever in fact Stewart got a better job and raise for hiring Gregg. Failure and apathy are rife in the organization, one that enabled this to begin with.

So to speculate, we go into the hex with Mexico being pencilled in because of their talent, their COACH (we dropped the ball there not interviewing Martino), and their momentum as compared to the rest of the group. That leaves USA, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Panama and Canada (I believe) to slug it out for 2 spots from 5. To say we aren't in danger of not qualifying is the same ostrich mentality that led to players being carried over a water moat in Couva.

How is something going to magically change in November?? IF Adams returns then he can play the 6 (a fan not a Berhalter idea) and for once we may control the middle of the field again. But expecting a change suddenly when we've seen so much evidence to the contrary seems like wishing. Don't give me the 1-0 loss to Mexico. After 15 minutes of USA fluffing a few chances Martino sussed out USA and we did nothing. It was all Mexico. That advantage was then increased in the recent friendly where Mexico suffocated us. That's a huge negative on Berhalter and his plan. He routinely gets outcoached and so we can expect more of that.

I explained that the McKennie, Pulisic, Sargent etc are being neutered because of how we play not because they are playing. They are being wasted as I described before. Maybe you disagree with me on that, that's fair it's a tactical point. But did you see Pulisic face and his frustration that was real.
We stand just as much a chance of qualifying and/or failing to qualify as any other team in the hex at this moment... because nobody has played a game yet. Thats a fact. Moving on...

I never said that something magical was going to change in November, so... why are you implying that I am? I only stated that how we perform in November should dictate which side of the aisle I'll personally sit on with respect to GGG, and that I'm currently more against him than with him. Its worth noting though that just as Canada beat us 2-0 on their home turf, its just as possible and likely that we turn around and stomp them 2 or 3 nil at home in the US. We won't know anything though until we see who gets called in and what changes are made.

You clearly don't follow too much of what Berhalter says, press conferences, media statements and whatnot. If you did, you would know that he has stated that he no longer views Adams as a RB and has established that he is a CM. Same with his initial thought of Yedlin as a RW. But thats part of coaching, bud. You have an idea, but you have to get the guys out there to experiment with it, see it in person, and give it a go before saying yay or nay.

With respect to Pulisic coming off in the Canada game and his face of frustration... you're trying to imply that his frustration was because you think he feels that Gregg is wasting him and that Gregg somehow made him play poorly. Thats outrageous. You're making an assumption based on your own personal opinion, not rooted in any evidence or fact (statements from Pulisic, GGG, etc.). Thats pure speculation and there really is no point in arguing something like that, plain and simple.

The truth is that none of them played well. Pulisic looked poor against both Cuba and Canada. Regardless of the tactics, supporting cast, etc., Pulisic in particular should be running circles around those guys and he wasn't. There is something off with him right now and its not GGG's fault. Is it Greggs fault that he isn't playing at Chelsea and sitting the bench right now? No, thats nonsense - but it seems that his club situation/form/what have you is bleeding into the national team. Not trying to defend Berhalter here, but that isn't exactly his fault.

Sargent also looked poor in both games and its clear that he isn't ready to be our main man. Jozy is still our striker when healthy, regardless of what any fan thinks or wants. That being said, I would still take Sargent over Zardes, but Sargent just simply isn't there yet and still needs to develop. Again, not trying to defend him, but thats not on Gregg... thats on his club team Werder Bremen. Thats just the truth.

Its pretty clear that you're taking your frustration with the recent results and directing it at me. For what reason, I don't know. But its wildly obvious when you're calling me out unprovoked on multiple posts, asking me to clarify my positions when I had not even brought any of them up, implying that I have a certain stance on a topic when I quite literally either said nothing of the sort or the complete opposite in a previous post, and attempting to get me caught in "gotcha" moments through the questions you present or statements you make about my supposed positions/beliefs.

So what exactly is the point you're trying to make here? Seriously man, cut the crap and get off the high horse. I keep saying that to you because you continue to pull the same BS. Its getting old, move on.

db707
Post #56
Friday October 18, 2019 2:59pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,008
Original post from blaise213

Joao Lucas is in the U-23 camp I think

The rumor with Robert Kenedy was he was born in Miami, mom ripped up his birth certificate and they moved to Brazil. Any other news I haven't heard ?


Joao Lucas/Johnny played the last 11 minutes against El Salvador. When are you getting his national team jersey?

Maybe what we need on Kenedy is a time machine so you can go back to 8 February 1996 and find out for sure where a bench option at a mid-table La Liga club who probably doesn't want any part of our dumpster fire anyway was born.

Know Nothing
Post #57
Friday October 18, 2019 3:44pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,686
Original post from Lilshmike

We stand just as much a chance of qualifying and/or failing to qualify as any other team in the hex at this moment... because nobody has played a game yet. Thats a fact. Moving on...

I never said that something magical was going to change in November, so... why are you implying that I am? I only stated that how we perform in November should dictate which side of the aisle I'll personally sit on with respect to GGG, and that I'm currently more against him than with him. Its worth noting though that just as Canada beat us 2-0 on their home turf, its just as possible and likely that we turn around and stomp them 2 or 3 nil at home in the US. We won't know anything though until we see who gets called in and what changes are made.



Know Nothing just shakes his head, chuckles for a moment, then considers his response...

Dude, everything you say is accurate, well thought out and measured. For me, sometimes the tone of your posts come off as condescending.

No, we cannot refute the fact you put out there, but sure, that is blatantly obvious. It is also the same exact situation we found ourselves in going to Trinidad and there does not seem to be any improvement from then so yes, some of us are worried.

bjelks
Post #58
Friday October 18, 2019 4:56pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
It's funny to me that all the mls, sum, good ole guys never hold mls players accountable lol.
@lilshmike wrote a whole book about how the star players didn't carry the team and didn't mention how the mls players did absolutely nothing lol.
Of course Sarg had a bad game, he had a college player playing 10 and a crash dummy in Morris at Wing.
Regarding CP, to ask him to run circles around fully grown men 1v5 is ridiculous, no one is even asking Neymar, messi, ronaldo to do that.
And Mckennie is covering for Bradley and overcompensating for whatever Roldan is supposed to be doing.

I say the same shit on this thread everyday and have been for yrs, get those guys some competent complements and they'll look world class.
Play them with scrubs and they'll struggle. They think, play, move 3 levels faster than the rest of the team and that causes disjointedness and frustration.
And again we don't need world class players to improve on Roldan, Morris, Bradley, Lovitz, Long, Ream just competent and athletic ones.

Have a nice Friday.
goalsense
Lilshmike
Post #59
Friday October 18, 2019 5:01pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from Know Nothing

Know Nothing just shakes his head, chuckles for a moment, then considers his response...

Dude, everything you say is accurate, well thought out and measured. For me, sometimes the tone of your posts come off as condescending.

No, we cannot refute the fact you put out there, but sure, that is blatantly obvious. It is also the same exact situation we found ourselves in going to Trinidad and there does not seem to be any improvement from then so yes, some of us are worried.
I totally get that. Most times thats not my intention, other times it is. In my response to hamsamwich, I will openly admit that it was condescending. The reason is because he (multiple times now, on more than one thread) has directed his frustration with the USMNT at me, made false claims about opinions/statements of mine, challenged me on issues I never even brought up, and attempts to get me caught in "gotcha" statements by looking for me to stumble on my words/stances. For what though? (not seeking an answer there, simply stating)

And considering when I had not even posted anything in this thread, thats totally unprovoked and just flat out unnecessary. I know my responses to him have me coming off as a prick, but given his posts its not exactly unwarranted.

I have no problem calling out BS or nonsense when its posted, or responding to posts when someone calls me out. If its civil, its all good. But if someone pulls BS like hamsamwich has done on this thread and others, I'll call it out. I'm not personally upset over any of it though. This is a freaking soccer forum website for crying out loud.

Lilshmike
Post #60
Friday October 18, 2019 5:06pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from bjelks

It's funny to me that all the mls, sum, good ole guys never hold mls players accountable lol.
@lilshmike wrote a whole book about how the star players didn't carry the team and didn't mention how the mls players did absolutely nothing lol.
Of course Sarg had a bad game, he had a college player playing 10 and a crash dummy in Morris at Wing.
Regarding CP, to ask him to run circles around fully grown men 1v5 is ridiculous, no one is even asking Neymar, messi, ronaldo to do that.
And Mckennie is covering for Bradley and overcompensating for whatever Roldan is supposed to be doing.

I say the same shit on this thread everyday and have been for yrs, get those guys some competent complements and they'll look world class.
Play them with scrubs and they'll struggle. They think, play, move 3 levels faster than the rest of the team and that causes disjointedness and frustration.
And again we don't need world class players to improve on Roldan, Morris, Bradley, Lovitz, Long, Ream just competent and athletic ones.

Have a nice Friday.
Hahaha dude, I legitimately said Roldan and Lovitz sucked and needed to get kicked to the curb, and that Bradley played poor. Thats 3 of the 5 MLS guys who started in the game the other night.

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