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Know Nothing
Post #1
Wednesday October 16, 2019 4:15pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Time to look ahead. Best we can do now is win our group on goal difference.

I think it is time to stop looking for players that can play the way GB envisions us playing and to start finding formations and tactics that allows more cohesiveness amongst our best players.

Build around our core players...find players that compliment them and work well within the team structure.

I know it may be seen as heresy, but don't call in Pulisic. He is our most talented player but more than anything else he needs to get his head right and two weeks without much distraction to focus on his club form may do him good.

No Roldan...there should be consequences for major mistakes.

bjelks
Post #2
Wednesday October 16, 2019 6:33pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
Should we leave out Mckennie, Adams if healthy, and Sargent as well?
goalsense
Know Nothing
Post #3
Wednesday October 16, 2019 7:56pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Sure, why not, if we can get a team of 11 players playing together.

bjelks
Post #4
Wednesday October 16, 2019 8:14pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
You wouldn't rather have 11 good players?

Isn't the goal to get results?
goalsense
blaise213
Post #5
Wednesday October 16, 2019 9:06pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
All the news pundits and commentators were saying Canada had more heart, played with the intensity of the "old USA." Blah blah

Why can't anyone call out GB for calling up shitty ass MLS players to the national team? That's the real problem.

camparkinson
Post #6
Wednesday October 16, 2019 9:14pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 332
The reason why is because Canada's shitty MLS players played better than the USA shitty MLS players... the player selection is an issue but the player selection isn't why the USA lost to Canada for the first time in decades...

I don't mind the national focus being on how bad Berhalter has been as a coach, they are right to talk about how he has set up a team that has no idea what they are doing and plays with no heart or energy... a coach's job is to set his team up for success which he clearly isn't doing.

Regardless of who is called in, Berhalter isn't the guy to lead them so asking for different players is not the solution needed at this time... gotta replace the coach (and his bosses too) before a new player selection will help.

Know Nothing
Post #7
Wednesday October 16, 2019 9:16pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from bjelks

You wouldn't rather have 11 good players?

Isn't the goal to get results?


If you have 11 superstars each doing their own thing they can be beaten by a lesser group of 11 with a common focus and teamwork.

This is not a video game where you can control one great player and have success.

In our case, everyone expects CP or McKennie to be the focus. Other teams scheme to stop that but nobody else on our team seems capable of stepping up to help...either because of the tactics or their abilities.

CP and McKennie play so much faster than most of the other guys...it must be frustrating for them at times.

bjelks
Post #8
Wednesday October 16, 2019 9:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
Original post from Know Nothing

If you have 11 superstars each doing their own thing they can be beaten by a lesser group of 11 with a common focus and teamwork.

This is not a video game where you can control one great player and have success.

In our case, everyone expects CP or McKennie to be the focus. Other teams scheme to stop that but nobody else on our team seems capable of stepping up to help...either because of the tactics or their abilities.

CP and McKennie play so much faster than most of the other guys...it must be frustrating for them at times.


So why not surround them with more technical, fast playing guys, with more individual ability so the whole team can be capable of stepping up?
These current group doesn't complement our top players at all
goalsense
blaise213
Post #9
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:04pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
Original post from bjelks

So why not surround them with more technical, fast playing guys, with more individual ability so the whole team can be capable of stepping up?
These current group doesn't complement our top players at all


I fully endorse this comment. I've been saying this for the 6 years I've been on here

camparkinson
Post #10
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:07pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 332
It's just terrible... Id rather see the U20s at this point... at least if they lost we could hope they are learning and growing...

Wasting opportunities on older players with no chance of improving is just dumb... how do players like Lovitz, Ream, Bradley, Roldan keep getting called in?!

cudevil
Post #11
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:11pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 984
I still wonder if Alphonso Davies was American whether Berhalter would call him in...

Know Nothing
Post #12
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:16pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,686
Original post from bjelks

So why not surround them with more technical, fast playing guys, with more individual ability so the whole team can be capable of stepping up?
These current group doesn't complement our top players at all


It has not happened yet so why do you think it would happen now?

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #13
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:28pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,516
I think GB will have to modify his approach in the short term...take a less ambitious approach and incrementally work on certain areas of the game, but from a defensive position of strength...he won't be able to sustain the loses while putting his ideal tactical choreography into place.

He will need to scale down his approach to enable the team to be competitive while they work towards better ball...the process has to be slower to keep the players engaged and playing with confidence...committed to the task...you can't beat down the player's psyche with a parade of ugly loses...he'll flat out lose the team.

I think this game will have serious internal repercussions and lead to lot of soul searching and hard assessments of player selection...and going forward a scaled down tactical approach that will enable us to be far more competitive...it's the only way out.

blaise213
Post #14
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:36pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
Original post from chris_thebassplayer

I think GB will have to modify his approach in the short term...take a less ambitious approach and incrementally work on certain areas of the game, but from a defensive position of strength...he won't be able to sustain the loses while putting his ideal tactical choreography into place.

He will need to scale down his approach to enable the team to be competitive while they work towards better ball...the process has to be slower to keep the players engaged and playing with confidence...committed to the task...you can't beat down the player's psyche with a parade of ugly loses...he'll flat out lose the team.

I think this game will have serious internal repercussions and lead to lot of soul searching and hard assessments of player selection...and going forward a scaled down tactical approach that will enable us to be far more competitive...it's the only way out.


Naw brother! Fire the fucker !!

Whose available? Jose Mourinho ?

bjelks
Post #15
Wednesday October 16, 2019 10:45pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
Original post from Know Nothing

It has not happened yet so why do you think it would happen now?


Maybe us as fans should be louder in letting our voices be heard and not just going along with the status quo.
Let's challenge the media, let's not pay for games, let's show disapproval for the regime everyway we can
goalsense
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