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bjelks
Post #151
Sunday October 13, 2019 5:23am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
Original post from db707

The problem is you just advocate for anyone else regardless of whether they're even playing first team soccer, regardless of anything they've done on the field recently, or whether you've even seen them play, just some vague notion you have of their talent level that's often belied by their club standing. I'm not in favor of just replacing guys who haven't earned their spots with other guys who haven't earned their spots.


I'll just call you out for bullshit here.
I've only called for first team players who have played well recently that I've seen.
Again I must ask, if you've never seen someone play for the national team, how do you not know if they're Better than what we have?
This is why you're a bigot and fanboy.
Because you think who ever you've seen that the manager has called must be the best option no matter what.
You're never in favor of replacing guys that are proven not good enough with guys that are potentially better who you don't know is bullshit and dumb as fuck, we can even call it ignorant.
I can't rationalize or respect this loser line of thinking
goalsense
db707
Post #152
Sunday October 13, 2019 10:38am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,008
Original post from bjelks

I'll just call you out for bullshit here.
I've only called for first team players who have played well recently that I've seen.
Again I must ask, if you've never seen someone play for the national team, how do you not know if they're Better than what we have?
This is why you're a bigot and fanboy.
Because you think who ever you've seen that the manager has called must be the best option no matter what.
You're never in favor of replacing guys that are proven not good enough with guys that are potentially better who you don't know is bullshit and dumb as fuck, we can even call it ignorant.
I can't rationalize or respect this loser line of thinking


Dude, this is one of the craziest replies you've ever put on here, and that's saying something. It's both demonstrably wrong and offensive. Good day.

Lilshmike
Post #153
Sunday October 13, 2019 7:57pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from bjelks

I'll just call you out for bullshit here.
I've only called for first team players who have played well recently that I've seen.
Again I must ask, if you've never seen someone play for the national team, how do you not know if they're Better than what we have?
This is why you're a bigot and fanboy.
Because you think who ever you've seen that the manager has called must be the best option no matter what.
You're never in favor of replacing guys that are proven not good enough with guys that are potentially better who you don't know is bullshit and dumb as fuck, we can even call it ignorant.
I can't rationalize or respect this loser line of thinking
Hahaha did you seriously just call this man a bigot??

You're really out bjelks-ing yourself here.

Lilshmike
Post #154
Sunday October 13, 2019 8:02pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from stoked3

Its weird that everyone bags on @bjelks -he has a very valid point.

That doesn't mean @2tone point isn't valid as well. That is the problem with playing games like Cuba.

I said on here prior to the game, I think we could take all of us on this forum and put us in the starting 11, and we could have competed against Cuba.

So we can't get to high on morris performance. @bjelks point was some of his crosses were off, yes some were good, but when you are playing a rec team like Cuba we shouldn't get to high the performance for players like Morris, BUT I do think Morris is in good form and I hope he can keep it up, it will be more exciting if he can play like this against mexico or teams of that caliber. What he did well was to find the space, his speed looks to be back, if he can work on his technical side he could play overseas and really develop,

So with games like this with veterans we don't learn to much. That is why I was up in arms about the roster. These games are PERFECT for younger unproven players.

@lilmike thinks we should play mls guys every game until someone pushes them out. That is a poor mans strategy-you have to think outside of the box, try younger guys, to expand the pool and create a more competitive environment. Sure you want guys who are playing week in and out on senior teams. But we are not Brazil, Spain etc

There are better options in MLS to get called in. Paxton is a good example-who do you think has a higher ceiling Paxton or Roldon?

So it is not just picking overseas guys I want GB to call in different younger MLS players-its just lazy we seem to bring the same guys in.

For example, it was reported today Manchester City is scouting Gio and want him back. how many teams like that are tracking guys like, Trapp, Roldon, Zardes, Baird,

We have to realize at some point we need to try something new. Make fun of the overseas guys all you want but good on them for trying to better themselves.

There is clearly a bias in US soccer. We have guys corey Baird instead of Julian Green-come on. It seems like it so much easier for average mls players to get called in than overseas guys.

really the only thing we learned this game was J Yeuill has potential and we should never see Trapp again. So case in point we should have had a young unproven roster so we could learn who has potential and who does not.

That doesn't make you a troll-but at this point we have seen the same guys get called in over and over-so yes morris played good, I was happy to see that, but we can't get overly exciting about it, the only people that helped themselves in this game were Jackson Y.
Seriously, what are you talking about? You're pulling a bjelks, putting words in people's mouths. Hahaha I've legitimately never said or posted that.

bjelks
Post #155
Sunday October 13, 2019 9:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
Original post from Lilshmike

Hahaha did you seriously just call this man a bigot??

You're really out bjelks-ing yourself here.


Was talking to @db707 about how we're better off continuing with non deserving players just cuz Gregg picked them.

I answered your question about basic standards for international players
goalsense
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #156
Monday October 14, 2019 1:57am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Original post from bjelks

I'll just call you out for bullshit here.
I've only called for first team players who have played well recently that I've seen.
Again I must ask, if you've never seen someone play for the national team, how do you not know if they're Better than what we have?
This is why you're a bigot and fanboy.
Because you think who ever you've seen that the manager has called must be the best option no matter what.
You're never in favor of replacing guys that are proven not good enough with guys that are potentially better who you don't know is bullshit and dumb as fuck, we can even call it ignorant.
I can't rationalize or respect this loser line of thinking


Do you understand the word bigot?

blaise213
Post #157
Monday October 14, 2019 5:09am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
Go Canada 🇨🇦

Samtom23
Post #158
Monday October 14, 2019 7:32am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 108
Most of us are tired of GB's selections, whether it is domestic or Europe based. I wouldn't mind his system, if you took initiative and trained new players.

Go Canada!

And maybe the Europe based guy's should boycott call ups.

All seven of them- CP, WM, Boyd, Yedlin, Steffen, Sargent and Miazga.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #159
Monday October 14, 2019 12:33pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 867
Original post from Samtom23

Most of us are tired of GB's selections, whether it is domestic or Europe based. I wouldn't mind his system, if you took initiative and trained new players.

Go Canada!

And maybe the Europe based guy's should boycott call ups.

All seven of them- CP, WM, Boyd, Yedlin, Steffen, Sargent and Miazga.


Well, your a fan not a professional footballer. I understand that most here believe that they are soccer guru's but the truth is we are all just fans and don't get paid to play or manage professionally. Lets take Zardes for example. Our last three national team managers have all called him up regularly. Fans don't rate him! I believe we have better strikers in the pipeline as well. However people on here get so butthurt when he is called like GB is doing something way outside the bounds of reality. So you don't like it when the national team manager doesn't call your pet players and that makes you root for Canada? All you that are saying go Canada, fuck off, we don't need you as fans.

db707
Post #160
Monday October 14, 2019 1:47pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,008
Yeah, I like Canada and all having lived there, but I can't root against the U.S. I might pay less attention to the game than I normally would because of frustration with the direction of the program, but that won't mean cheering for the opponent.

Samtom23
Post #161
Monday October 14, 2019 3:28pm

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 108
Kamphruppe,

My comment was more tongue in cheek than anything else. But I want to contrast your fuck off to DB707. Disagreement but respect. I gotta say until you apologize you go fuck yourself. My life is too busy for a fuckwad piss ant like you. I want bother responding to points and counter points here but will do so separately.

For anyone, I might have offended with my language, apologies.

But Kamphruppe, respect is earned and not given, currently you have none of mine. (Respect)

Lilshmike
Post #162
Monday October 14, 2019 4:01pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,270
Original post from Samtom23

Kamphruppe,

My comment was more tongue in cheek than anything else. But I want to contrast your fuck off to DB707. Disagreement but respect. I gotta say until you apologize you go fuck yourself. My life is too busy for a fuckwad piss ant like you. I want bother responding to points and counter points here but will do so separately.

For anyone, I might have offended with my language, apologies.

But Kamphruppe, respect is earned and not given, currently you have none of mine. (Respect)
Kramphruppe isn't wrong tho. And to be candid, you just followed up a butthurt post with another butthurt post.

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #163
Monday October 14, 2019 4:24pm

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 324
Original post from Lilshmike

Kramphruppe isn't wrong tho. And to be candid, you just followed up a butthurt post with another butthurt post.


Dude-if @bjelks said that you would have lost your mind. Give me a break the guy has a different opinion no need to respond with that type of lang.

If Kamp didn't like Samtom post-tell him to get lost, but why the harsh lang.

It seems people on this site believe you have to think like them or else they are stupid. you guys rag on @bjelks all the time bc he doesn't share your same insight.

I get not rooting against your team-on the surface it sound like blasphemy, interesting topic would be would you do so if it meant the program would change.

We lost to Trinidad and thus missed a world cup-let that sink in, we lost to a rec team with a world cup on the line. GB is not alone, Bruce, JK, Bradley, all have had questionable call ups-we need an expanded player pool.

We need to look at new players. IF we lose to Canada and it lights a fire of change in US soccer Im all for it.

But to support name calling is lame-seems like you have a double standard on that @lilmike
Stoked
Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #164
Monday October 14, 2019 4:35pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 867
Original post from Samtom23

Kamphruppe,

My comment was more tongue in cheek than anything else. But I want to contrast your fuck off to DB707. Disagreement but respect. I gotta say until you apologize you go fuck yourself. My life is too busy for a fuckwad piss ant like you. I want bother responding to points and counter points here but will do so separately.

For anyone, I might have offended with my language, apologies.

But Kamphruppe, respect is earned and not given, currently you have none of mine. (Respect)


don't care, if you don't want to root for the us because your frustrated with player selection then we don't need you as a fan. I am sorry if my super harsh language offended your sensitivities.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #165
Monday October 14, 2019 4:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 867
Original post from stoked3

Dude-if @bjelks said that you would have lost your mind. Give me a break the guy has a different opinion no need to respond with that type of lang.

If Kamp didn't like Samtom post-tell him to get lost, but why the harsh lang.

It seems people on this site believe you have to think like them or else they are stupid. you guys rag on @bjelks all the time bc he doesn't share your same insight.

I get not rooting against your team-on the surface it sound like blasphemy, interesting topic would be would you do so if it meant the program would change.

We lost to Trinidad and thus missed a world cup-let that sink in, we lost to a rec team with a world cup on the line. GB is not alone, Bruce, JK, Bradley, all have had questionable call ups-we need an expanded player pool.

We need to look at new players. IF we lose to Canada and it lights a fire of change in US soccer Im all for it.

But to support name calling is lame-seems like you have a double standard on that @lilmike


to be honest telling someone to piss off is not name calling, I did not personally attack anyone or call anyone names. I should have said something like get lost. So yes, I will clean up the language but I stand by my point. I am ok with disagreement with player call ups etc. It's fine to not like players or a coach or whatever. But rooting for the other team because you don't like player selection. Get lost!

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