Good point about being released by their clubs... but we don't know that for sure yet. And even still, they'll be able to participate in the Olympics (assuming we qualify) so its important to integrate them while we can.
But again... most of these guys are bench warmers at their clubs. It has been stated by Berhalter himself that players need to be getting minutes in order to be considered for call ups. That is rational, makes sense, and is what every respectable coach and program around the world enforces. Until that changes with these guys, they shouldn't be with the senior team.
Robinson and CCV aren't bench warmers.
Sargent and Weah have both performed well for the Nats (Sargent more so). It'd be one thing not to call a guy that wasn't starting AND hadn't shown well for the Nats. It's silly to play inferior players playing in middling leagues because they happen to be getting run at the moment.
2tone Ten-Towns
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Friday March 22, 2019 5:37pm
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Nonthisbu23 team would not beat the current USMNT. If people hate Zardes....Haji Wright is way worse.
2tone Ten-Towns
Post #48
Friday March 22, 2019 5:53pm
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They do not look good defensively nor offensively. All over the place. Down 1-0 to Egypt.
bjelks
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Friday March 22, 2019 5:55pm
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Man the U23s look bad. All of them. No bright spots.
Haji looks clue less. Keaton and Djorde are either too conservative with their passing or way off with long passes and through balls.
CCV is a rock. Pines a little clumsy and slow to react.
Sabbi doesn't seem to have any ideas 1v1.
Not seeing the creativity and ambition from Weah.
Jones looks too big to not be bossing the midfield.
Olosunde looks timid and sloppy on the ball.
goalsense
2tone Ten-Towns
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Friday March 22, 2019 6:01pm
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That was painful to watch. I would bring on Sargent, and both Robinson's in the second half. Sabbi was bad too.
2tone Ten-Towns
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Friday March 22, 2019 6:32pm
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It hasn't gotten better in the second half. Very painful to watch.
2tone Ten-Towns
Post #52
Friday March 22, 2019 6:50pm
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If this is truly the majority of the player pool for the U23's.... we are going to struggle.
I expect upgrades: Akale, Zelalem, Sonora, and a host of the current u20 team at some point. A lot of these u23 players aren't even playing first team soccer.
Shit I expect to see Aaronson, Pomykal with this team sooner rather than later.
Stop calling in Wright the dude is a bust.
2tone Ten-Towns
Post #53
Friday March 22, 2019 6:59pm
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James Sands would be in an instant upgrade at DM.
Also this passive approach to defending with token pressure is not the way in international football. Egypt pressed pretty much the entire game and the US coughed up the ball left and right.
Get it together Kreis.
Also Lewis would be a huge upgrade on the wing over Sabbi and Ebobissie( who is not a damn winger in the first place).
camparkinson
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Friday March 22, 2019 7:00pm
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It seems that USA has improved in their ability to possess the ball but only can do so in their own half... once the ball gets into advanced positions they are out of ideas and have no players who can scare the opposition. So this game (and a lot of the Ecuador game) was USA passing it decently though the middle, around the back and getting it wide and then either losing it or passing it back and doing it again.
2tone Ten-Towns
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Friday March 22, 2019 7:13pm
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Well that wasn't good. Positives: not many. But Weah and Sargent both showed glimpses of their talent. Just need to get the right players around them.
I will give this camp a pass just because it was thrown in without really a coach in place until Tuesday. And I think other players will emerge as the cycle goes on.
Know Nothing
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Friday March 22, 2019 9:42pm
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Original post from camparkinson
It seems that USA has improved in their ability to possess the ball but only can do so in their own half... once the ball gets into advanced positions they are out of ideas and have no players who can scare the opposition. So this game (and a lot of the Ecuador game) was USA passing it decently though the middle, around the back and getting it wide and then either losing it or passing it back and doing it again.
Well it would have been interesting to see how Kyle Scott would fit in with this group...pity he was injured as he can spot a pass and has a good IQ for the game.
Lilshmike
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Friday March 22, 2019 11:14pm
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Original post from bjelks
Man the U23s look bad. All of them. No bright spots.
Haji looks clue less. Keaton and Djorde are either too conservative with their passing or way off with long passes and through balls.
CCV is a rock. Pines a little clumsy and slow to react.
Sabbi doesn't seem to have any ideas 1v1.
Not seeing the creativity and ambition from Weah.
Jones looks too big to not be bossing the midfield.
Olosunde looks timid and sloppy on the ball.
But I thought Haji was better than Zardes and we didn't have 23 players better than Parks...
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Good point about being released by their clubs... but we don't know that for sure yet. And even still, they'll be able to participate in the Olympics (assuming we qualify) so its important to integrate them while we can.
But again... most of these guys are bench warmers at their clubs. It has been stated by Berhalter himself that players need to be getting minutes in order to be considered for call ups. That is rational, makes sense, and is what every respectable coach and program around the world enforces. Until that changes with these guys, they shouldn't be with the senior team.
Robinson and CCV aren't bench warmers.
Sargent and Weah have both performed well for the Nats (Sargent more so). It'd be one thing not to call a guy that wasn't starting AND hadn't shown well for the Nats. It's silly to play inferior players playing in middling leagues because they happen to be getting run at the moment.