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camparkinson
Post #46
Sunday November 3, 2019 5:10pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Its sad but I miss the days where we knew USA would at least try really hard... these kids all look so entitled like they think they will just show up, pass the ball around and win games...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #47
Sunday November 3, 2019 9:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
I think there are some talented kids in this u17 cycle. It was just another case of not getting tactics right, lack of passion, and zero team cohesion and chemistry.

cudevil
Post #48
Monday November 4, 2019 5:41pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 984
Sciaretta just had an article about how this U17 wasn't particularly talented compared to the last version. I can't say that I track that age group overly closely, but Sciaretta's take doesn't seem to mesh with what was being said prior to the tournament. The pre-tournament hype can, of course, be a lot of hyperbole from the Federation, but still.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #49
Tuesday November 5, 2019 4:43am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,516
I only watched the game against the Dutch. What struck me was the team wide poor body language and frustration showed between teammates...well before the game got out of hand. Imo, that was the biggest problem, they weren't even close to having each other's backs... the gave up on each other... Didn't come close to playing as a team...weird...they all looked out of sorts...except for Scalley. He was the only one who
showed some heart and fire. I was surprised to see some pretty talented guys going through the motions, Reyna, Busio were nearly invisible. I don't buy the talent issue, looked like team chemistry was completely sour.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #50
Wednesday November 6, 2019 1:46am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Original post from cudevil

Sciaretta just had an article about how this U17 wasn't particularly talented compared to the last version. I can't say that I track that age group overly closely, but Sciaretta's take doesn't seem to mesh with what was being said prior to the tournament. The pre-tournament hype can, of course, be a lot of hyperbole from the Federation, but still.


Yeah I disagree with his article. There are potential two talented LB's in Hernandez-Foster and Bello. Pepi is definitely a talented striker. Reyna obviously has talent. Both Odunze and Las are talented Keepers. Bryang Kayo is a talented CM. And so is Leyva. What this team really lacked was a couple of really good wide players and CB's. But Carrera definitely looks like he will get better as he ages.

And of course what is Reynas best position? I have a feeling he will be a FWD.

I'm not that high on Busio.

People forget Pulisic's U17 team crashed out of that tournament too.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #51
Wednesday November 6, 2019 1:54am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
But of course the two only players who have pushed on from that 2015 U17 team is Pulisic and Adams. Wright is doing ok, but the rest not really. Basically I expect maybe three players to move up the ranks from this current u17 team. Reyna looks like a potential lock, and I would put money on Pepi and Bello.

cudevil
Post #52
Friday November 15, 2019 5:44pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 984
Mexico into the finals. Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought the US U17's beat them fairly handily a couple of times, and although they lost to Mexico in the CONCACAF Finals, it was generally believed that the US had the better of play (or, at worst, it was a very evenly matched game). So how was this team short of talent?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #53
Friday November 15, 2019 7:04pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 867
Original post from cudevil

Mexico into the finals. Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought the US U17's beat them fairly handily a couple of times, and although they lost to Mexico in the CONCACAF Finals, it was generally believed that the US had the better of play (or, at worst, it was a very evenly matched game). So how was this team short of talent?


I don't think they were short on talent, they didn't seem ready to play. I think sometimes we need to just let these kids play and not try to be too fancy with a system and everything. The games I watched they didn't seem to be enjoying themselves.

whyneverme
Post #54
Friday November 15, 2019 8:01pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 47
Original post from cudevil

Mexico into the finals. Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought the US U17's beat them fairly handily a couple of times, and although they lost to Mexico in the CONCACAF Finals, it was generally believed that the US had the better of play (or, at worst, it was a very evenly matched game). So how was this team short of talent?


The USA played Mexico off the park at the CONCACAF final but were unlucky (or lacked the ability to finish).... Maybe they just had a dip in collective form at the wrong time? Who knows, they are all 16 years old, next year they might look good again... That's me being optimistic....

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #55
Friday November 15, 2019 9:26pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Youth levels sole purpose is to identify individual talent that will move up and on to bigger and better things. While the team just wasn't good collectively there are many individual players who have a future from that cycle.

cudevil
Post #56
Friday November 15, 2019 9:59pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 984
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I don't think they were short on talent, they didn't seem ready to play. I think sometimes we need to just let these kids play and not try to be too fancy with a system and everything. The games I watched they didn't seem to be enjoying themselves.


I'm just referring back to the Sciaretta article where he said that this wasn't a very good U17 team. The whole thing seemed like revisionist history, which is confirmed, to an extent, by Mexico making the final.

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