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bjelks
Post #631
Tuesday March 26, 2019 12:24am

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I think he meant expanding to 1st team players outside of MLS that haven't been called before, which there are several
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Dave
Post #632
Tuesday March 26, 2019 1:53am

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Many who are advocating for fresh blood are doing so because the options tried to date have been less than satisfactory either in past performances or during the January camp.

Omar is a known quality. He's slow in though, slow in movement, shaky in distribution. Strong in the air and in set pieces. Miazga, Long, & Zimmerman have all proven to be better options.

Ream is a known quality. He's slow in movement, usually fairly good in distribution & positioning. I wasn't really opposed to trying him in this camp, but we again saw him make a major gaff that could have caused us the game.

Lovitz was targeted and shredded during the January camp by CONCACAF "B" Teams. If he can't hold his own in those games, than what chance does he have against CONCACAF "A" squads, or higher level opponents.

Wide attackers is still lacking. Baird, Morris, Arriola, have been tested. Yet the likes of Holmes, Weah, Green, Gooch, Saief, etc... haven't. It's almost as if GB is settling on these guys without actually testing out others. Are these guys better than GB's options, we don't know because we have nothing to compare.

I'm not a fan of Trapp & Bradley as starters, but I can see their worth as depth options for now. I would prefer to have seen Adams at CDM with someone else at RB.

bjelks
Post #633
Tuesday March 26, 2019 2:41am

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Original post from Dave

Many who are advocating for fresh blood are doing so because the options tried to date have been less than satisfactory either in past performances or during the January camp.

Omar is a known quality. He's slow in though, slow in movement, shaky in distribution. Strong in the air and in set pieces. Miazga, Long, & Zimmerman have all proven to be better options.

Ream is a known quality. He's slow in movement, usually fairly good in distribution & positioning. I wasn't really opposed to trying him in this camp, but we again saw him make a major gaff that could have caused us the game.

Lovitz was targeted and shredded during the January camp by CONCACAF "B" Teams. If he can't hold his own in those games, than what chance does he have against CONCACAF "A" squads, or higher level opponents.

Wide attackers is still lacking. Baird, Morris, Arriola, have been tested. Yet the likes of Holmes, Weah, Green, Gooch, Saief, etc... haven't. It's almost as if GB is settling on these guys without actually testing out others. Are these guys better than GB's options, we don't know because we have nothing to compare.

I'm not a fan of Trapp & Bradley as starters, but I can see their worth as depth options for now. I would prefer to have seen Adams at CDM with someone else at RB.


I would add Gall, Sonora, Tyler Boyd to attacking mid options.
And I would add that Danny Williams and Alfredo Morales have not been tested as depth options and both play in better leagues and on better teams than Trapp and Bradley.
Also Nova in a better league and on a better team than all the forwards in camp.
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Ten-Towns
Post #634
Tuesday March 26, 2019 3:10am

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Yeah I would like to see Tyler Boyd at some point. He is interested in a call up from the US.

Lilshmike
Post #635
Tuesday March 26, 2019 3:33am

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Original post from bjelks

I would add Gall, Sonora, Tyler Boyd to attacking mid options.
And I would add that Danny Williams and Alfredo Morales have not been tested as depth options and both play in better leagues and on better teams than Trapp and Bradley.
Also Nova in a better league and on a better team than all the forwards in camp.
Williams doesnt play. Hes shouldnt be called in over anyone who does, MLS included.

Sorry, this isn't a theoretical where a "healthy" Williams should be selected. Hes 30, has only played a handful of minutes all year, and hasn't been the same since injuring his knee. That's insufficient, and considering hes on the worst team in the Premier League (in reality, a Championship level team that's out of their depth), isn't even consistently making the bench for that team, and has played less than 2 games worth of cumulative minutes all year... he shouldnt be called in, especially over anyone in MLS who plays week in and week out. That's not fanboy. That's rational and exactly what's going to happen.

Sadly it seems like his time is up with the USMNT. Unless something miraculous happens where he gets a consistent run of games, or he leaves and goes to a lower level team (or stay with Huddersfield when they get relegated) where he is able to get minutes and it coincides with an injury crisis for the US... it's over for him. Move on.

bjelks
Post #636
Tuesday March 26, 2019 5:10am

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Danny Williams announced on his IG that he's fit and will be back after international break.

If he gets a consistent run of games, he's easily better than Trapp and MB in every aspect of the game.
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hamsamwich
Post #637
Tuesday March 26, 2019 2:08pm

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Original post from bjelks

Danny Williams announced on his IG that he's fit and will be back after international break.

If he gets a consistent run of games, he's easily better than Trapp and MB in every aspect of the game.
I would see him in the McKennie, Roldan role personally.

hamsamwich
Post #638
Tuesday March 26, 2019 2:10pm

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As for tonites game it interests me that Morris (more of a counter player ) got wing minutes against a bunker team, but may not against a higher pressing Chile where he would in theory use his skill set more.

Lilshmike
Post #639
Tuesday March 26, 2019 2:22pm

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Original post from bjelks

Danny Williams announced on his IG that he's fit and will be back after international break.

If he gets a consistent run of games, he's easily better than Trapp and MB in every aspect of the game.
So because a player announces on their social media that they are feeling good and ready to play, we should call them into the national team?

Disagree also about being better in every aspect. Williams has never been known for being a good passer. Both Trapp and Bradley have been. That is something they have on him. Not only that, but you've called to get rid of the older players and bring in younger guys... then call for a guy who is 30, not playing, and coming back from a bad and potentially career changing injury? Come on now...

bjelks
Post #640
Tuesday March 26, 2019 3:32pm

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Original post from hamsamwich

I would see him in the McKennie, Roldan role personally.


Respectfully, I'm not rating players based on their fit in Berhalter's system.
The jury is out on this system until we beat a World Power with it.
I see Danny as a CDM, his best qualities are his range, ability to disrupt, and destroy attacking threats.
I also see Mckennie best as a deep lying destroyer.
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bjelks
Post #641
Tuesday March 26, 2019 3:43pm

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Original post from Lilshmike

So because a player announces on their social media that they are feeling good and ready to play, we should call them into the national team?

Disagree also about being better in every aspect. Williams has never been known for being a good passer. Both Trapp and Bradley have been. That is something they have on him. Not only that, but you've called to get rid of the older players and bring in younger guys... then call for a guy who is 30, not playing, and coming back from a bad and potentially career changing injury? Come on now...


I clearly stated if he gets a consistent run of games, he's our best option at reserve 6 behind Mckennie and Adams who I believe should be dual 6s.

I can't objectively argue about who is a better passer between Trapp, Bradley, D Will, but I can say if Trapp and Bradley are better passers, that factor is completely neutralized against a pressing team.

And if we're ever going to beat a good team, we're going to have to deal with elite athletes or technical ability or both. D Will has the tools to do so. He can at least compete in duals in the midfield.

I can't recall this claim that I've called to get rid of "older" players. I may have said replace older players that are past their prime or declined in league quality.
I just want the players with the most ability to play and D Will has much more of that than MB or Trapp.
I've stated several times that our best player in 2014 WC was 33.
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db707
Post #642
Tuesday March 26, 2019 4:18pm

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Williams's contract with Huddersfield is up at the end of the season. I would be surprised if he stays and, with nothing but pride and the future to play for, Huddersfield didn't prefer younger players over him even with him being healthy (he was mostly on the bench when healthy even before this).

bjelks
Post #643
Tuesday March 26, 2019 4:33pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,414
Actually in the 2017-2018 season, he had 24 appearances, 13 starts, 11 subs and 6 unused subs.
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Ten-Towns
Post #644
Tuesday March 26, 2019 5:20pm

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If he can stay healthy I don't see why he wouldn't get a look at some point. I think Berhalter right now is focused on finding the right guys for the Gold Cup. After that I think he will be able to experiment bringing new players in certain games when the Nations league starts in the fall.

WCQ starts in 2020.

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Ten-Towns
Post #645
Tuesday March 26, 2019 5:33pm

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I think Berhalter will probably stay with the current formation:

---Zardes--
Arriola----Yedlin
--Pulisic--Roldan--
---Bradley--
Lovitz-Brooks--Miazga--Lima
----Horvath---

Possibility we may see Lletget at the 10 and Pulisic wide left.

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