RECAPS
EXTRA TIME
YANKS ABROAD LOCKER ROOM
 
hamsamwich
Post #601
Saturday March 23, 2019 1:07am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Dest plays in the 2nd division in holland which is a pro league while de la Fuente plays academy soccer still. I'd keep both right where they are, the u20 World Cup is soon and they will have their time to shine. Sure we could do a 4-3-3, or a 3-5-2, but doesn't everyone just expect Nick Lima to be slotted in for Adams and Roldan for McKennie?

I'd personally like to see the team play with two wingers in this case Arriola and Lewis from the start.

John-Lewis
Post #602
Saturday March 23, 2019 1:11am

Joined Feb 2019
Total Posts: 59
Let's all make up a lineup for the Chile game only including the players already in the lineup.

Mine is a 4-2-3-1 wide

Horvath

Yedlin-Miazga-Brooks-Lovitz

---Bradley--Trapp--

Arriola--Pulisic--Lewis

---Zardes---
Horvath: Would like to see him play compared to Johnson.

Yedlin: Replaces Adams and plays as just a regular right back.

Miazga: Aaron Long just better.

Brooks: No explanation needed.

Lovitz: Replaces Tim Ream who nearly embarrassed himself once again and nearly gave me a heart attack once again.

Bradley: Not the most technical player but able to play short passes that would help us defeat Chile's high press.

Trapp: Basically Bradley except he can move and defend.

Arroila: One of the more lively players in last night's match. Able to take on players, cross, or shoot. Would move him over to the righ where he naturally plays.

Pulisic: No explanation needed.

Lewis: Morris didn't really have an impact on the game, and you can't blame all of that on GB's RB CM hybrid system. Lewis, the youngster, seems to be a lot more active and lively. Would like to see him start and see how he plays.

Zardes: While not one of the best strikers, he is still the best option we have at the moment.

hamsamwich
Post #603
Saturday March 23, 2019 1:49am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Lewis - Zardes - Arriola
- Pulisic - Roldan -
- Trapp -
Long - Brooks - Miazga - Lima
- Johnson -

Subs: Yedlin for Arriola, Ramirez for Zardes, Lletget for Pulisic

** I'd love to see if Miazga can handle the spot next to Brooks, and I'd also like to see if Long can fill that inverted LB better than Ream.

Know Nothing
Post #604
Saturday March 23, 2019 6:35am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,742
With the resources available to us...

Horvath
Long, Brooks, Miazga
Yedlin, Trapp, Lletget, Arriola
Pulisic, Morris, Lewis

GB doesn't want to use yedlin as RB...fine, make him a wingback. Arriola likes running, so him too

Pulisic and Lewis start outside buy move inside to allow overlaps.

Trapp stays home and lletget plays as a support to the attack.

hamsamwich
Post #605
Saturday March 23, 2019 2:29pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
@lilshmike- I've never disputed what you said that players need to be beaten out, or that building a program starts with a few building blocks then you add piece by piece. Well, we've seen positional battles from the entire pool in goal, defense and midfield. I just ask that we get to see the best of what we have talent wise in the attack with the proviso they do need to play (enough, or sufficient minutes) for their clubs. Can't get called in as strictly as a reserve player like Soto, Gloster or Mendez for example.

***most American guys need to adapt to the overseas game which is more technical and cultured. I just don't see these MLS guys with their inferior rounded skill sets getting game time in these better leagues either. I'm an MLS fan and there is great talent in the league, but the overall mental, technical and tactical play still lacks. And I just don't see our MLS attackers getting more game time than their more talented less experienced Euro based counterparts. I personally think Bob Wood would look just that much better than Zardes for example.

bjelks
Post #606
Saturday March 23, 2019 4:14pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,414
Original post from hamsamwich

@lilshmike- I've never disputed what you said that players need to be beaten out, or that building a program starts with a few building blocks then you add piece by piece. Well, we've seen positional battles from the entire pool in goal, defense and midfield. I just ask that we get to see the best of what we have talent wise in the attack with the proviso they do need to play (enough, or sufficient minutes) for their clubs. Can't get called in as strictly as a reserve player like Soto, Gloster or Mendez for example.

***most American guys need to adapt to the overseas game which is more technical and cultured. I just don't see these MLS guys with their inferior rounded skill sets getting game time in these better leagues either. I'm an MLS fan and there is great talent in the league, but the overall mental, technical and tactical play still lacks. And I just don't see our MLS attackers getting more game time than their more talented less experienced Euro based counterparts. I personally think Bob Wood would look just that much better than Zardes for example.


Agree with all of this
goalsense
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #607
Saturday March 23, 2019 5:42pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,506
De La Fuente has the potential to be a special player. But let's pump the brakes. Until he either breaks into the Barcelona first team( which could happen, Barcelona are very excited about his future) or he gets loaned out for first team action, we need to be patient. His first priority is making the US u20 team which I think he will, and then being a force for the US at the WC.

blaise213
Post #608
Saturday March 23, 2019 7:41pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,023
Original post from 2tone

De La Fuente has the potential to be a special player. But let's pump the brakes. Until he either breaks into the Barcelona first team( which could happen, Barcelona are very excited about his future) or he gets loaned out for first team action, we need to be patient. His first priority is making the US u20 team which I think he will, and then being a force for the US at the WC.


I gotta disagree because I think a lot of these euro youth teams can beat most MLS teams

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #609
Saturday March 23, 2019 10:12pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 907
Original post from blaise213

I gotta disagree because I think a lot of these euro youth teams can beat most MLS teams


Just curious, why do you rate MLS teams so low? It seems that this opinion is shared by most Europeans as well. Do you hold that opinion just because the majority of the world believe it? Or do you watch a lot of football and have made that assessment on your own.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #610
Saturday March 23, 2019 11:46pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,506
Original post from blaise213

I gotta disagree because I think a lot of these euro youth teams can beat most MLS teams


That's a no.

hamsamwich
Post #611
Sunday March 24, 2019 3:44pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
There's no way a Euro youth team wins except once in a blue moon. That's a joke. And that's why I think we have an issue. The euro crowd is just as bad as the mls crowd when its comes to fanboy stuff and bias. Yes I agree the elite players in those academies are exceptional, and the academy itself is more than likely better, but there are some great players in the MLS. That's the problem it's still a player league with no real "league style" or level. But the same is true everywhere that an exceptional talent is a top player no matter where they play. It's just that we haven't had so many American players be exceptional most have been foreign like Etchevarry, Keane, BWP, J Martinez, Giovinco etc.

And so here we are with mainly an MLS roster for the national team. Soon the young euro guys (or enough of them) will have broken through and so there will always be a place for the MLS players but the clubs need to value the young players more and some of these elite kids may stay at least for a few years like Tyler Adams rather than go early like McKennie and Richards and Sargent. Yes those players want the challenge but they also want the better pro deals on offer in the better leagues, that's what makes those leagues better. It's no coincidence the Italian league is finally returning after 15-20 years because the clubs are starting to pay more. If and when MLS bumps up salary cap etc the product will only get better.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #612
Sunday March 24, 2019 3:58pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 907
Did anyone expect us to have so much possession against Ecuador? I re-watched the game yesterday and we really worked hard on 50/50 balls and there was a lot of good quick one touch ball movement. Ecuador didn't bunker at first but were losing so much possession that we kind of forced them into it. I am so used to us giving 60-70% possession to other teams that alone was refreshing to see. I am looking forward to the game vs Chile. I am hoping for more of the same from us.

bjelks
Post #613
Sunday March 24, 2019 4:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,414
Original post from hamsamwich

There's no way a Euro youth team wins except once in a blue moon. That's a joke. And that's why I think we have an issue. The euro crowd is just as bad as the mls crowd when its comes to fanboy stuff and bias. Yes I agree the elite players in those academies are exceptional, and the academy itself is more than likely better, but there are some great players in the MLS. That's the problem it's still a player league with no real "league style" or level. But the same is true everywhere that an exceptional talent is a top player no matter where they play. It's just that we haven't had so many American players be exceptional most have been foreign like Etchevarry, Keane, BWP, J Martinez, Giovinco etc.

And so here we are with mainly an MLS roster for the national team. Soon the young euro guys (or enough of them) will have broken through and so there will always be a place for the MLS players but the clubs need to value the young players more and some of these elite kids may stay at least for a few years like Tyler Adams rather than go early like McKennie and Richards and Sargent. Yes those players want the challenge but they also want the better pro deals on offer in the better leagues, that's what makes those leagues better. It's no coincidence the Italian league is finally returning after 15-20 years because the clubs are starting to pay more. If and when MLS bumps up salary cap etc the product will only get better.


If we had 23 starters in EPL or Bundesliga, do you think there would still be a place for MLS players in the national team?
goalsense
hamsamwich
Post #614
Sunday March 24, 2019 5:07pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Original post from bjelks

If we had 23 starters in EPL or Bundesliga, do you think there would still be a place for MLS players in the national team?
we don't. But I'll go along with it and say there will always be room for either A) up and coming star talent or B) full national team player returns to MLS in prime of career.

But I think Berhalter would love to have that problem. So would all the fans.

bjelks
Post #615
Sunday March 24, 2019 6:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,414
Original post from hamsamwich

we don't. But I'll go along with it and say there will always be room for either A) up and coming star talent or B) full national team player returns to MLS in prime of career.

But I think Berhalter would love to have that problem. So would all the fans.


Let's say you have 3 options.

A) Up and coming MLS player 20 yrs old, not being scouted by Europe

B) Full national team player that's 26 recently moved to MLS, couldn't get regular minutes in EPL or Bundesliga

C) Regular starter in EPL or Bundesliga, mid table club

Which do you pick and why?
goalsense
Page 41 of 49
«« First « Previous 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45  Next » Last »»

With Jesse Marsch and David Wagner at the helms of teams in the top flight, YA will cover their exploits this season.
RECENT POSTS
YA Transfer Tracker
Yanks Face Relegation in England
Tale of Two Young Yanks in Europe
Wagner Nears Premier League Goal