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Post #31
Thursday January 3, 2019 11:32pm

Joined Feb 2013
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Original post from tylercocinas

Why would the hiring of Berhalter have them questioning their commitment? And are we talking YNT players? Because Berhalter hasn't done shit yet. Several months ago, I was lucky enough to have a few conversations with the family of player who switched and they hinted that there would be more defections from the US in the future.


The conversation was specifically about youth and a few of those undecided. The issue is you guys are looking at it from the wrong angle. These dual nationals aren't looking at the NT program and their future in the same way that you are. As an up and coming young player, they're looking for a well respected coach that has connections to top teams in Europe.

JK was a coach that was well connected and made moves to get NT players training stints in Europe and possibly worked on potential deals. Unfortunately it's about personal growth as a player and personal success. Berhalter doesn't have the prestige of a high level coach and is definitely not considered one. These players are also looking to play for a high level coach/manager they highly respect. It's not just a few of us on here that don't respect Berhalter, it's the actual players as well.

Lilshmike
Post #32
Friday January 4, 2019 12:11am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 911
Original post from Spank

The conversation was specifically about youth and a few of those undecided. The issue is you guys are looking at it from the wrong angle. These dual nationals aren't looking at the NT program and their future in the same way that you are. As an up and coming young player, they're looking for a well respected coach that has connections to top teams in Europe.

JK was a coach that was well connected and made moves to get NT players training stints in Europe and possibly worked on potential deals. Unfortunately it's about personal growth as a player and personal success. Berhalter doesn't have the prestige of a high level coach and is definitely not considered one. These players are also looking to play for a high level coach/manager they highly respect. It's not just a few of us on here that don't respect Berhalter, it's the actual players as well.
Good point.

Not disagreeing, but the player has to be good enough to go to Europe first and foremost. After that, sure, the head coach and his connections may be helpful, but that is mainly if that head coach thinks the player can fit into their overall plan. Having a coach with good connections doesn't matter too much if the coach doesn't see them having a role with their NT, call them up to develop that relationship where they will open their network, and vouch for them.

Not only that, but head coaches are temporary in the international game. They typically last 1 cycle. For young kids, putting all of their eggs in one basket because they like the current coach - knowing that the coach will likely leave in 4 years or less, way before their career comes to an end, and think that that coach will help them get to Europe - is a bit short sighted IMO.

Again, not disagreeing, but idk if it passes the sniff test for me. If a player is good enough to play in Europe and really wants to go over there, then they should be able to accomplish that without much help from their NT manager. Certainly there are exceptions and different rules for different leagues. And sure, the connections help (like with JK for Yedlin and Morris), but... idk. Never really thought of it that way, and not sure if the NT head coach and his connections would really have much of an impact (if any) on the careers of more than only a small number of players.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #33
Friday January 4, 2019 9:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,888
Hearing Llanez is close to signing with Wolfsburg.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #34
Saturday January 5, 2019 7:33pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,888
FC Dallas and Bayern Munich have finalized a transfer fee for Chris Richards. Good for Dallas and Richards. More MLS teams need to sign their young players like this, so they don't watch these players leave for free.

navi8132
New York
Post #35
Saturday January 5, 2019 7:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,016
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hamsamwich
Post #36
Sunday January 6, 2019 3:26am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,804
Yea the sell on clause really makes it a good deal for Dallas. When MLS switched up the transfer rules to allow the developing club (this case Dallas) more say and revenue in the transfers out of the single entity MLS- we thought it might be better for the HG players. Some of the lesser MLS clubs like Chicago and San Jose better take notice or risk losing a Las or a Fuentes for nothing.

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