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Kamphgruppe
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Post #316
Wednesday September 23, 2020 3:55pm

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Original post from Lilshmike

@cudevil

Serious question...

What fringe euro guys specifically have not been called in who should have been? You claim my argument is a straw man... but who has not been called in under GGG who should have been (assuming they were healthy and available for selection), or was performing to a standard where not calling them in was indicative of some type of bias or poor judgement? Please, enlighten us.


It's a tough call because sometimes it's better to leave guys fighting for minutes with their clubs. Pulling them all the way across the ocean for a 3 min cameo isn't fair to anyone. I would liked to have seen Danny Williams, Timothy Chandler, Duane Holmes, Eric Lichaj, Richard Ledezma, Ulysses Llanez, that is off the top of my head, some may have gotten a call I don't remember. I know we have looked at a lot of these guys before but many deserve another look in my opinion.

Lilshmike
Post #317
Wednesday September 23, 2020 4:22pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from Kamphgruppe

It's a tough call because sometimes it's better to leave guys fighting for minutes with their clubs. Pulling them all the way across the ocean for a 3 min cameo isn't fair to anyone. I would liked to have seen Danny Williams, Timothy Chandler, Duane Holmes, Eric Lichaj, Richard Ledezma, Ulysses Llanez, that is off the top of my head, some may have gotten a call I don't remember. I know we have looked at a lot of these guys before but many deserve another look in my opinion.
I agree entirely... I even stated that exact thing on this same thread. Thats part of the point and the "macro" view. Putting things into context.

Danny Williams... the guy had been coming off a bad injury at an older age and had not played in like 18 months. He should not have been called in. And now he doesn't even have a club. When he was healthy, he was called in. After the injury, that changed... and rightly so.

Lichaj... same level as Ream. Early on I thought that he should have gotten a look over Ream. But at this point, his inclusion is unnecessary.

Ledezma... hes on a youth team and has yet to make a senior debut. Has he been more deserving than a guy like Aaronsen? Pomykal? Mihailovic? All young players based in MLS who have actually seen first team minutes. His exclusion isn't noteworthy or indicative of anything other than he still has some development.

Chandler... I agree, he should have gotten a call up. That being said, we have no idea if there was a conversation had between Berhalter and him similar to that of Nagbe. Considering we have other guys who are younger and more promising than Chandler, its not criminal to exclude him... but I agree, he should be considered for a call up, especially given his form on the back end of last season.

Holmes has been called in. He has also been injured in at least one window that I can remember. So his name shouldn't be in this conversation given that he has 2 caps under Gregg and has seen time on the shelf. There was one window where he somewwhat got shafted... but he was just coming back from injury, so to our point about letting guys stay with their club teams, that isn't a real issue in the "macro" view".

Llanez has been called in as well, and did well on his debut. But, in the macro view... he played in camp cupcake against a Costa Rica youth/reserve side... so we have to take that with a grain of salt. That being said, he wouldn't have been called in if the coaching staff didn't know his progress and weren't in contact with his club and were aware of where he stood in the pool and how ready he was to make it at the Senior game... this further makes my point when you take that in context (the macro) and compare it to Ledezma. If Ledezma was ready, he would have been called in. Hes clearly not... and our coaching staff is aware of our pool and are seemingly willing to give chances to guys who deserve it (evidence, the Llanez call-up).

So of your list of 6 guys, 2 got calls (Holmes and Llanez), 2 were either undeserving or not really noteworthy exclusions (Williams and Lichaj), 1 was a youth/reserve team player who has yet to play first team for his club (Ledezma), and only 1 was a noteworthy exclusion (Chandler) of a guy with a history of sub par performances for the USMNT in a position where we have decent depth (RB), who has been hurt a couple times through the last year, and whos emergence only came on the back end of last season after moving to RW... right before a European camp that was called off due to covid.

When everything is put into context... there is nothing in there that anyone should be getting upset over. Macro view on this is that either the players aren't at the level that we as fans want to think they are at, they have been/were going to be called in, or have been injured during windows.

I just want to clear up that there is no malicious intent in this post, but people seem to keep complaining for no reason... especially when everything is put in context. Its quite ridiculous.

Know Nothing
Post #318
Wednesday September 23, 2020 5:35pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from Kamphgruppe

Playing a little bit of devils advocate here but . . To be fair lets not forget that when GB took over nations league and WCQ were just around the corner. Covid has changed a lot. Yes Sarachan had the luxury of playing a bunch of young guys, he didn't have any meaningful matches to worry about either.


Very true,timing has not been on GB's favor and Covid has certainly not helped. But given the circumstances of the lengthy coaching search, he has not been helped by the federation since it is a widely held theory he was the only candidate for the job.

IMO, he has held on to some players way too long (Trapp, Roldan) and not looked at others long enough (Holmes). Coaches prerogative yes, and we get the opportunity to critique.

Another issue for me is the inconsistency of call ups. If you can call up a Bryang Kano during a Camp Cupcake window you certainly can call up a Ledezma or Llanez or a younger Reyna during a regular friendly window. I do not buy the argument that the circumstances are different...the matches do not matter and both are opportunities to evaluate.

Lilshmike
Post #319
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:16pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from Know Nothing

Very true,timing has not been on GB's favor and Covid has certainly not helped. But given the circumstances of the lengthy coaching search, he has not been helped by the federation since it is a widely held theory he was the only candidate for the job.

IMO, he has held on to some players way too long (Trapp, Roldan) and not looked at others long enough (Holmes). Coaches prerogative yes, and we get the opportunity to critique.

Another issue for me is the inconsistency of call ups. If you can call up a Bryang Kano during a Camp Cupcake window you certainly can call up a Ledezma or Llanez or a younger Reyna during a regular friendly window. I do not buy the argument that the circumstances are different...the matches do not matter and both are opportunities to evaluate.
Berhalter legitimately called in Llanez to the same window he called in Kayo. Not only did he call him in, but Llanez started the game... so why is he an issue for you?

At that time, Kayo was playing at a higher level than all three of those guys. USL is at a higher level than the youth teams of PSV, Wolfsburg, and NYCFC... and he has since gone on to sign for Wolfsburg and now plays on the same team as Llanez...

After Reyna transferred to Dortmund, it took until January of 2020 for him to make his first team debut. Should Berhlater have pulled Reyna away from Dortmund when hes starting to break into the first team for a friendly? No.

So again, I ask, where is the real issue here?

cudevil
Post #320
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:24pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from Lilshmike

@cudevil

Serious question...

What fringe euro guys specifically have not been called in who should have been? You claim my argument is a straw man... but who has not been called in under GGG who should have been (assuming they were healthy and available for selection), or was performing to a standard where not calling them in was indicative of some type of bias or poor judgement? Please, enlighten us.


I'd probably draw the line on players that are playing on youth teams that aren't playing against other grown men on the regular. So guys that should have gotten called in to senior camps and given more run than has been received:

Richards, EPB, Cappis, Sabbi, Mendez, Ledezma, Aaronsen, Robinson (Antonee and Miles), Pomykal, Gloster, Nova, Moore, Holmes, Llanez, Soto off the top of my head.

Again, I know some of those guys have gotten some cameos (Llanez, A. Robinson, and I think Moore has played for GB). It also isn't just about Euro guys. And I don't even personally rate some of those that I listed (Nova and Soto in particular), but we should get an idea of whether they could play (particularly given the lack of options at the forward spot and left back). But some of those guys have the potential to be foundational come '26, and could be in the conversation for roster spots in '22.

And let's also be clear on something...I don't even think a guy like Long is that bad, but EPB, Richards, and maybe Miles Robinson all have potential to be significantly better. Letting them show what they can do wouldn't hurt, given that Long is a much more known quantity (same for Ream or Miazga or Brooks).

hamsamwich
Post #321
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:26pm

Joined Oct 2013
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@kamphgruppe- It's not who he called up, it's how they are used.... I keep saying that. Call in Roldan that's fine but don't have him play winger.

Also if those same guys were playing for the majority of Berhalters tenure, then why couldn't they look competent out there? They were playing Jamaica and Venezuela and concacaf squads, not the Frances of the world...

Gregg is a system guy and calls in players to fit that system. And that's entirely his call. The coach can always call in who he wants to. It's up to him to get those guys to perform and it hasn't happened yet. Sure, having the very best players in the pool will help, but not being able to get his "group" to actually function as a group was a big problem and shows his limited ability at getting the message across.

IF he was the right candidate (giving the benefit of the doubt), then he must have successfully convinced and showed Earnie a plan for the future . That's how it works when someone is hired for a job (if there was a process, I'll say there was), that there are conversations about how to move forward and why said candidate is or is not a fit. And whatever he presented is his way. And good on him for having a plan. Is the plan coherent? Has it worked? With lots of time before the World Cup, can Gregg make a plan to have us succeed? Or will his technical jargon and rigid system handcuff the players? I guess we all are going to find out.

cudevil
Post #322
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,163
Original post from Kamphgruppe

It's a tough call because sometimes it's better to leave guys fighting for minutes with their clubs. Pulling them all the way across the ocean for a 3 min cameo isn't fair to anyone. I would liked to have seen Danny Williams, Timothy Chandler, Duane Holmes, Eric Lichaj, Richard Ledezma, Ulysses Llanez, that is off the top of my head, some may have gotten a call I don't remember. I know we have looked at a lot of these guys before but many deserve another look in my opinion.


Part of my point is that you don't call them in to give them a 3 minute cameo. Call them in and play them. At this point, the damage is done, though. With COVID we've lost a TON of international windows, and it still remains unclear if/when the nats will get on the field. So, we lost development time prior to the pandemic due to exceedingly conservative player selections, and I strongly suspect GB is going to use it as a crutch to keep the player pool limited to his comfort zone looking forward.

cudevil
Post #323
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:35pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from Kamphgruppe

Playing a little bit of devils advocate here but . . To be fair lets not forget that when GB took over nations league and WCQ were just around the corner. Covid has changed a lot. Yes Sarachan had the luxury of playing a bunch of young guys, he didn't have any meaningful matches to worry about either.


For me, the Nations League was absolutely the perfect time to bring in young, inexperienced players and give them all sorts of playing time. I don't expect a coach to do significant experimentation in WCQ. But Nations League? That's a nothing tournament that should almost 100% be used for player development.

hamsamwich
Post #324
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:36pm

Joined Oct 2013
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@lilshmike- the larger macro view is that federation didn't do a proper hire. Cordeiro had to hire Earnie who then had to hire Gregg and that process was fine even though it took way too long. It was the way it happened. It reflected poorly on the decision makers. Blaming those at the bottom (the players) while giving many excuses to those at the top (the decision makers) is a very odd way of assigning responsibility in my view. Another macro view is that the federation has taken away many of the old processes and integrated new ones (entirely within their job description). But not having a massive youth summit anymore, purging the youth ranks of coaches, changing the DA into an MLS youth league, etc... those point to a new direction. Good I think we all want better. But to ignore the responsibility of those in charge and how their successes or failures are tied directly to the choices they make is honestly strange and I don't get it. A last macro view is that a manager sets a tone, trend and path forward for the organization. It's basically like a mission statement. Time will tell whether the USSF and Gregg have the right vision and how closely they stick to that idea.

cudevil
Post #325
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:55pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from hamsamwich

@lilshmike- the larger macro view is that federation didn't do a proper hire. Cordeiro had to hire Earnie who then had to hire Gregg and that process was fine even though it took way too long. It was the way it happened. It reflected poorly on the decision makers. Blaming those at the bottom (the players) while giving many excuses to those at the top (the decision makers) is a very odd way of assigning responsibility in my view. Another macro view is that the federation has taken away many of the old processes and integrated new ones (entirely within their job description). But not having a massive youth summit anymore, purging the youth ranks of coaches, changing the DA into an MLS youth league, etc... those point to a new direction. Good I think we all want better. But to ignore the responsibility of those in charge and how their successes or failures are tied directly to the choices they make is honestly strange and I don't get it. A last macro view is that a manager sets a tone, trend and path forward for the organization. It's basically like a mission statement. Time will tell whether the USSF and Gregg have the right vision and how closely they stick to that idea.


One aggravating point to it all is that it seems like the entire period under Sarachan was wasted. He wasn't playing a system similar to GB's (which Sarachan could have done considering that GB was basically the hire the entire time), and then he called in a bunch of guys that GB either didn't rate or doesn't think fits within his system.

Lilshmike
Post #326
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:55pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,549
Original post from cudevil

I'd probably draw the line on players that are playing on youth teams that aren't playing against other grown men on the regular. So guys that should have gotten called in to senior camps and given more run than has been received:

Richards, EPB, Cappis, Sabbi, Mendez, Ledezma, Aaronsen, Robinson (Antonee and Miles), Pomykal, Gloster, Nova, Moore, Holmes, Llanez, Soto off the top of my head.

Again, I know some of those guys have gotten some cameos (Llanez, A. Robinson, and I think Moore has played for GB). It also isn't just about Euro guys. And I don't even personally rate some of those that I listed (Nova and Soto in particular), but we should get an idea of whether they could play (particularly given the lack of options at the forward spot and left back). But some of those guys have the potential to be foundational come '26, and could be in the conversation for roster spots in '22.

And let's also be clear on something...I don't even think a guy like Long is that bad, but EPB, Richards, and maybe Miles Robinson all have potential to be significantly better. Letting them show what they can do wouldn't hurt, given that Long is a much more known quantity (same for Ream or Miazga or Brooks).
First and foremost, I agree on Long. I don't think hes that bad and I think hes done a good job thus far. I'd be in favor of calling inn Robinson... who has been called in and one time in particular was called in and Atlanta refused to let him go. So that isn't a fair thing to slam Berhalter on.

EPB should get a look, I agree. But I don't find his exclusion a criminal offense. Especially because we do have a decent amount of depth at CB at the moment.

Richards is still trying to push his way into the Bayern first team. Given he has a high ceiling, but is still developing and making a mark for his club, I see no issue with not calling him yet until he gets a little more first team action and can be selected during a proper window for European based players.

Sabbi and Cappis - I agree on Sabbi, I think he has been more deserving of other guys, but Cappis I don't think is there. He was playing at a level similar to MLS, and given we are pretty deep at CM as well, there is nothing he has done to stand out and make a noteworthy argument for inclusion at this time. Consider the fact that he is in limbo now with his club that has been relegated to the 2nd division of Denmark... thats just not good enough for the senior team.

Gloster is a youth player who has yet to make a senior debut. Understand that we are thin at LB, but it falls into the same boat of other guys being in front of him. I don't rate Lovitz at all, and I think Ream should be nowhere near LB... but given Antonee Robinson is emerging, we have played Dest at LB, Lima has shown to be competent at that position... its not a noteworthy exclusion at this time until the kid can start cracking into the first team at his club.

Soto, who wasn't even getting games in the 2nd division in Germany, should not have been called in. Considering we have a number of guys in MLS, who play at a level that is equal to if not slightly above 2 Bundesliga, he should not have gotten called in and its not noteworthy. If GGG called in a young kid from MLS who couldn't get a game, and only had a couple senior appearances to his name... people would absolutely lose their minds. Considering the level of where Soto plays, this logic is consistent with how it would have made no sense to call the kid in.

Nova got called in... but is struggling in the 2nd division in Italy. When we have guys in stronger leagues putting up better numbers, its no wonder why he has struggled to get called in... and that is understandable.

Moore is on the outside looking in. 2 Liga is just like MLS, and we have a number of guys who are starting RBs for teams that are in front of Moore. His exclusion isn't a big deal, and nothing that is really going to move the needle for us at this time.

Holmes has been called in. Holmes has also had injuries where he was unavailable for selection at times. There was also one window where he was healthy and available for selection.. but if memory serves me right, it came right after he came back from injury, so it makes sense as to why he wasn't called in when he just got back to health and was pushing into a critical role for club. This is no issue. That being said, I would like to see a bit more of him.

Macro view though... when you look at all of these guys, there really isn't much to complain about. There is a pretty easy rationale as to why these guys haven't gotten more time. Its not due to some anti-Euro bias or some MLS agenda. Most of these guys legitimately just aren't really at the level required yet for the senior USMNT.

And to make crystal clear... I am not defending Trapp or Roldan. But when you're comparing calling in a RB or a ST or a CB to the inclusion of 2 CMs... its not apples to apples and it devalues your argument.

Should Moore get called in over Yedlin, or Cannon, or Dest at RB? Doubtful.

Gloster over Lovitz? Ok, you may have a legitimate claim to an extent.

Thats not how you're framing it. By saying "we need to see more of these guys"... ok, well who specifically is not getting called in who should? Who would that person replace in the current team of players who have been called up? And when and what windows would it have made sense to include them?

Complaining about not playing the Euro fringe guys more means notthing without context. And when placed into context, most of these guys... well, it makes total sense as to why they haven't been called in more.

Know Nothing
Post #327
Wednesday September 23, 2020 6:58pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from Lilshmike

Berhalter legitimately called in Llanez to the same window he called in Kayo. Not only did he call him in, but Llanez started the game... so why is he an issue for you?

At that time, Kayo was playing at a higher level than all three of those guys. USL is at a higher level than the youth teams of PSV, Wolfsburg, and NYCFC... and he has since gone on to sign for Wolfsburg and now plays on the same team as Llanez...

After Reyna transferred to Dortmund, it took until January of 2020 for him to make his first team debut. Should Berhlater have pulled Reyna away from Dortmund when hes starting to break into the first team for a friendly? No.

So again, I ask, where is the real issue here?


Okay, maybe Llanez was a bad example. But my issue is if you are going to call in a player like Kayo when there were players from MLS that were playing in a higher league then you are clearly saying he has something these omitted players are missing that may be useful to the team. The same could be said of others that may have qualities that are useful to the team. Why not try them as well since Pandora's Box has been open.

Lilshmike
Post #328
Wednesday September 23, 2020 7:09pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,549
Original post from cudevil

One aggravating point to it all is that it seems like the entire period under Sarachan was wasted. He wasn't playing a system similar to GB's (which Sarachan could have done considering that GB was basically the hire the entire time), and then he called in a bunch of guys that GB either didn't rate or doesn't think fits within his system.
Sarachan's stated goal was to play as many different and young guys as possible.

I agree that it seems wasted. But big picture, we had no competitive games and were at a weird transition point in our player pool, so I don't find that being a massive problem.

The biggest problem that people, yourself included, seem to have is Berhalters approach to shifting the player pool.

Berhalter, when hired, had a system he wanted to implement. He stuck to guys he was familiar with to try and play a certain style. As a coach, I can totally understand that and can see where you would want to establish something early on and see how other players can adapt.

The problem, is that he was slow to adapt himself and continued pushing his system by selecting guys who he felt fit instead of trying to form tactics around the best players available to him. That being said, adn to be fair to him, many of the best players haven't been available consistently due to injury.

So we run into a chicken and egg scenario of "was GGG just being dense and unwilling to change based on his player pool" or "was GGG sticking to what he knew in order to get results because a number of the players he could/would have chosen were injured"?

Either way you cut it... most of those young Euro based kids on youth teams still shouldn't be in the picture yet because we still have guys who are better and playing at a higher level than them in the pool already for the most part when you actually look at who we have and put selections into context.

Lilshmike
Post #329
Wednesday September 23, 2020 7:12pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,549
Original post from Know Nothing

Okay, maybe Llanez was a bad example. But my issue is if you are going to call in a player like Kayo when there were players from MLS that were playing in a higher league then you are clearly saying he has something these omitted players are missing that may be useful to the team. The same could be said of others that may have qualities that are useful to the team. Why not try them as well since Pandora's Box has been open.
I don't necessarily disagree.

Check my statements on the kid. I don' think he should have gotten called in. That being said, the reason Kayo was called in in the first place was because his contract expired Jan 1 for his club team, and he was already set to sign a contract in Germany... he just had to wait until he turned 18. He was brought in for training purposes and to evaluate where he was and keep him fresh prior to moving overseas.

Calling in some young academy kid in Europe is what so many people, yourself included, have called for. In the case of Kayo, it was done and everyone, yourself included, slammed it.

The only difference between these Euro youth team kids and Kayo... Kayo plays in USL in the USA. Thats legit it. Bias??

And for the record... Kayo didn't even dress for the game.

Lilshmike
Post #330
Wednesday September 23, 2020 7:41pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,549
Original post from hamsamwich

@lilshmike- the larger macro view is that federation didn't do a proper hire. Cordeiro had to hire Earnie who then had to hire Gregg and that process was fine even though it took way too long. It was the way it happened. It reflected poorly on the decision makers. Blaming those at the bottom (the players) while giving many excuses to those at the top (the decision makers) is a very odd way of assigning responsibility in my view. Another macro view is that the federation has taken away many of the old processes and integrated new ones (entirely within their job description). But not having a massive youth summit anymore, purging the youth ranks of coaches, changing the DA into an MLS youth league, etc... those point to a new direction. Good I think we all want better. But to ignore the responsibility of those in charge and how their successes or failures are tied directly to the choices they make is honestly strange and I don't get it. A last macro view is that a manager sets a tone, trend and path forward for the organization. It's basically like a mission statement. Time will tell whether the USSF and Gregg have the right vision and how closely they stick to that idea.
The larger macro view isn't that at all...

Lots of people harp on Klinsmann, and many at the time wanted him out. I don't recall your stance... but I was adamantly against firing Klinsmann, and equally against the hiring of Arena.

The true macro view, which most people neglect to even take into consideration (maybe its lack of understanding or just wanting to finger point and hit the easy button) is that with the firing of Klinsmann they messed up...

...they didn't just fire the manager. They also firing the technical director. Remember, Klinsmann was the technical director for USSoccer as well. So in getting rid of Klinsmann, they had not one, but 2 major vacancies that they created, with turnover in multiple areas of the federation at once. Its no wonder that things seemed like a calamity when they got rid of him and then got rid of Arena. They had a bunch of openings in critical positions within the federation that were the direct result of getting rid of Klinsmann at the time they did.

And why did they fire Klinsmann? People can say one thing or another about his GC performance or the first 2 games of the Hex, but the reality is that the pressure from the fanbase was overwhelming to get him out. If we as fans stood behind him, I would be willing to bet that he would have not been fired when he was.

So... with the firing of Klinsmann which resulted in both a manager and technical director vacancy, a shift of youth national team managers who were out the door as well with that decision and back office staff who Klinsmann brought in... yeah, USSF created a massive problem for itself that snowballed with the failure to qualify for 2018.

Then, to add on top of that, the USSF lost its president in Gulati, and there was another vacancy and lack of direction as a result of that as well.

So as a business and decision maker, when you have multiple vacancies at your organization and have made multiple short sighted decisions that have resulted in negative outcomes and turnover... it made some sense for them to cool down, take some time, get the right people in, and attempt to right the ship.

I am not defending the length of time that it took to make the hires or saying that we should not have hired a manager sooner (be that Gregg or someone else), but when put in context, I can understand why they did what they did and I do not totally fault them for it.

That being said, the entire situation started with the decision to dump Klinsmann. That was the catalyst for all of this. Hindsight is always 20-20, and they should have just let him see through qualifying, and make the change if he failed.

But its funny how we now have a large crop of young players overseas either being successful now, or in youth teams. As technical director, Klinsmann likely had a large role in this as he helped set the strategy for youth teams and structure. Similar thing happened with him and Germany.

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