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Dave
Post #16
Sunday October 6, 2019 5:21pm

Joined Jul 2014
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I'm happy to see that we're having more U-23 camps and that there appear to be a nice pool of players to select from. I'm for allowing players to progress through the age backets....U-20 to U-23, to Sr. Team. I firmly believe that a player should have to make their debut with their clubs Sr. Team before receiving a call-up to the Sr. USMNT.
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That said there are players in this age bracket who are ready to contribute to the Sr. US side besides Adams, McKennie, & Pulisic. Some of the Euro players who either weren't called into this U camp or weren't released by their clubs. Guys like A. Robinson, CCV, & EPB who aren't likely to be allowed to participate in the Olympic Qualification tournament, should be with the Sr. Team integrating themselves with the team. These players are seeing 1st team minutes with their clubs at a level equal to or better than MLS, and are worthy of consideration over some of the players who were called up for the Sr. Team (Lovitz).
Playing against Cuba is a great low pressure introduction to the team, system, and coaches. I believe this is why many fans were so disappointed with the roster selection recently. These early games in this new tournament are the perfect opportunity to test out youth and build towards the future. But instead we're getting the same group of players who have failed to impress in multiple opportunities.

blaise213
Post #17
Sunday October 6, 2019 10:18pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
Original post from PortCityFan

Blaise, you going to the saints/ bucs game?


I just got home today, all my friends were going but I think it's raining there now.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #18
Thursday November 7, 2019 10:21pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,154
Camp in the Canary Islands..games against Brazil then a final/third place game vs Argentina or Chile

U.S. Under-23 Men's National Team Roster by Position (Club; Hometown; U-23 Caps/Goals)
GOALKEEPERS (3): Matt Freese (Philadelphia Union; Wayne, Pa.; 2/0), JT Marcinkowski (San Jose Earthquakes; Alamo, Calif.; 4/0), Brady Scott (Köln/GER; Petaluma, Calif.; 0/0)

DEFENDERS (8): Cameron Carter-Vickers (Stoke City/ENG; Southend-On-Sea, England; 11/1); Kyle Duncan (New York Red Bulls; New York, N.Y.; 1/0), Justen Glad (Real Salt Lake; Tucson, Ariz.; 2/0), Aaron Herrera (Real Salt Lake; Las Cruces, N.M.; 2/0), Mark McKenzie (Philadelphia Union; Bear, Del.; 2/0), Chris Richards (Bayern Munich/GER; Birmingham, Ala.; 1/0), Antonee Robinson (Wigan Athletic; Liverpool, England; 2/0), Sam Vines (Colorado Rapids; Colorado Springs, Colo.; 1/0)

MIDFIELDERS (7): Brenden Aaronson (Philadelphia Union; Medford, N.J.; 1/0), Christian Cappis (Hobro/DEN; Katy, Texas; 1/0), Hassani Dotson (Minnesota United FC; Federal Way, Wash.; 2/0), Richard Ledezma (PSV Eindhoven/NED; Phoenix, Ariz.; 1/0), Alex Mendez (Ajax/NED; Los Angeles, Calif.; 2/0), Djordje Mihailovic (Chicago Fire; Lemont, Ill.; 4/0), James Sands (New York City FC; Rye, N.Y.; 0/0)

FORWARDS (6): Jeremy Ebobisse (Portland Timbers; Bethesda, Md.; 2/0), Brooks Lennon (Real Salt Lake; Paradise Valley, Ariz.; 2/2), Jonathan Lewis (Colorado Rapids; Plantation, Fla.; 1/1), Emmanuel Sabbi (Hobro IK/DEN; Libertyville, Ill.; 2/0), Sebastian Saucedo (Real Salt Lake; Park City, Utah; 1/0), Mason Toye (Minnesota United FC; South Orange, N.J.; 2/2)

Know Nothing
Post #19
Friday November 8, 2019 12:30pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,688
A strong selection...still think Kyle Scott is a better option than Djordje Mihailovic, but I guess in the end DM's familiarity with the squad could be beneficial.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #20
Thursday November 14, 2019 8:18pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,154
Lost 1-0 to Brazil

First half was bad. Bad turnovers especially one by Dotson which led to the goal (which Freese probably should have saved)

Second half was a little better they actually possessed the ball and looked for other teammates. Still too many bad turnovers in our own half

Quick up down report

Up: McKenzie , Saucedo, Toye, Aaronson, Sabbi

Down: Herrera, Glad, Lennon, Ledezma, Dotson

bjelks
Post #21
Thursday November 14, 2019 11:46pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,348
You gotta give Ledezma a shot with the better players around him.
He's a pure 10. He needs strings to pull and ppl to combine with.
Llaynez and Konrad should be on this team
goalsense
camparkinson
Post #22
Friday November 15, 2019 11:24pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 333
I watched the game and the first 20 minutes felt like the game was going to end really ugly lopsided with the USA playing terribly and Brazil all over them. They settled down some and played much better especially in the second half.

It was interesting to see that it seemed Kreis had the team set up in a pretty nice 433 and they were successfully high pressing Brazil for large portions of the second half which was kind of amazing to see.

But games like this really put into clear perspective that the USA is just not as good at simple passing and trapping... Brazil defenders are more technical than our best attacking players...

Ledezma looked ok, Mendez came on and looked great in his small amount of time. Both strikers looked pretty bad. Saucedo and Aaronson combined for the best moment of the match that nearly got them a goal. Lennon and Lewis did nothing with their time as wingers.

Glad was tested over and over and had a mixed bag, McKenzie wasn't tested as much. Freese wasn't very good in goal, looked very shaky many times with his feet and distribution.

hamsamwich
Post #23
Saturday November 16, 2019 1:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
The second half pressing was a Kreis adjustment to the soft middle block we started in. I understand Gregg is remaking the team and we need to play the same at all levels to get better at it, but kudos to Kreis for living in the moment and adjusting.

The whole start the game off poor and work into it, just missing a tying goal- that shit is vintage USA no matter what age group or competition. I can remember Moving thru the stands watching that damn Czech bald striker abuse Eddie Pope (him of all people) before I even sat down in 2006 WC. **the Dempsey Ghana goal is about the only time I remember us doing the opposite.

These are just practice games and I like that Kreis is expanding his pool and working with many different players of different age levels. Sorry first half guys if you didn't get all the best players with you sometimes that's just what happens as we move closer to qualifying stage. This is his best chance to look at the whole pool.

I always love that we play Brazil so much historically at youth levels. It's easy to see (just like the pre u17 WC game a few weeks ago) how athletic and talented the Brazilians are. It's always a good measure. @camparkinson- it's not a surprise how much more technical the Brazilians are, it's always fun to scout our own players and team and think: what would our best player look like on their team?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #24
Saturday November 16, 2019 5:05pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
From what I hear they were much better in the second half. Give them time to gel. And I really like Aaronson.

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #25
Saturday November 16, 2019 6:47pm

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 325
First it is semi good to get a win. It was good to see effort that said it shows how far we have fallen when we are over joyed to beat canada at home.

Brooks-I know he is rusty but honestly he has some scary moments throughout games. we need to see M Robinson,EPB, Richards get some PT as a back up

Ream, no thx for a go forward option unless is CB

Dest well easily the best us player on the field-I would like to see him at RW or maybe even as a creative option, he dribbled great in tight spaces, has swagger, great touch,

SL -has proven we no longer need Baird, or Roldon to be called up instead we can use those 2 spots for Green and Holmes

JY-while not sold on him being INT caliber he certainly is better than Trapp and we should never see Trapp again

Bardes over Sargaent -baffling

McKennie -if we are being honest we need to figure out how to get the best out of him his touch to often is not great-be interested in him somewhere else on the field. Also to be fair he plays better when adams is on the field.

Im fine with morris as a 60th min sub running at tired legs-but please look at alot of his touches even on his assist-it was a bad 1st touch against a good team he never gets that cross in, he needs to go overseas

Guzman, thx but we need to see the other keeper Horvath and whomever from MLS

Long played fine he needs to be over seas

you can clearly see the difference in touch with the euro guys and mls guys-- you see more effort from mls guys to make up for lack of technical skills -we need guys who give effort but we also need guys with skill. Watch Dest run and shot at full speed ball was close to his foot, then go look at morris assist..

Paul A--everbody loves his effort if we really need to call him which we don't, he should be a call up but in our 11 only due to injury-its alot of running with poor skill-we have better options.
Stoked
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #26
Sunday November 17, 2019 6:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Watching the u23's right now. They look ok. Not enough killer instinct. Toye definitely needs to develop more. But he is only 21.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #27
Sunday November 17, 2019 6:57pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Definitely like the look of Cappis. He needs a look with the USMNT.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #28
Sunday November 17, 2019 7:04pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Basically. The continued lack of the final third killer instinct. To much passing for passing sake.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #29
Sunday November 17, 2019 7:16pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Haven't scored yet at half. Argentina blasted this same Gran Canaria team 14-0. Safe to say we aren't even close to there caliber.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #30
Sunday November 17, 2019 7:28pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,445
Got a long ways to go people. A lot of issues.

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