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hamsamwich
Post #76
Friday December 21, 2018 11:57pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Gotta say that Brooks Lennon is the snub of camp. Especially since Berhalter likes his guys to play high and wide and not necessarily defend. Lennon is better at that than Reggie Cannon from what I've seen.

blaise213
Post #77
Saturday December 22, 2018 10:15pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,843
Original post from hamsamwich

Gotta say that Brooks Lennon is the snub of camp. Especially since Berhalter likes his guys to play high and wide and not necessarily defend. Lennon is better at that than Reggie Cannon from what I've seen.


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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #78
Sunday December 23, 2018 3:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 735
Original post from hamsamwich

Gotta say that Brooks Lennon is the snub of camp. Especially since Berhalter likes his guys to play high and wide and not necessarily defend. Lennon is better at that than Reggie Cannon from what I've seen.


A lot of the guys didn't get called due to their club situations or recent injuries. I know Nagbe didn't get called because of how far his team went into the playoffs. I am guessing it's the same for Lennon. MLS season starts March 2nd so preseason is just around the corner. Guys need at least a few weeks off.

hamsamwich
Post #79
Sunday December 23, 2018 4:18pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,034
I did advocate for Lima and Cannon so I can't say he didn't bring guys who can play and who have upside. However, that was before it was Berhalters job. I watched the playoffs and I saw Brooks Lennon playing at a higher level offensively (controlling the ball, making simple passes and touches, useful crosses and dynamic runs from deep) that I just haven't seen the other guys make. That's not to say Lima in particular wouldn't be helped by better teammates, just that I prefer Brooks Lennon on form and merit. Maybe Berhalter thinks he can't defend.

hamsamwich
Post #80
Friday December 28, 2018 3:20pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,034
We started this off by naming guys you wanted to see. I went with Bello (due to have a great development year under de Boer) and Mihailovic. I got one of two I wanted.

A quick primer on Djordje Mihailovic:

Played up and scored the winning goal at 16 for the ussda champion Fire a few years ago. This was the team with Lillard, Pineda, Lindley and Gutman. And Mihailovic made the key plays getting called up late in the season as a 15 yr old.

Homegrown player for Chicago, his size has been an issue with us soccer in the past and is one of the reasons he didn't play much for youth teams. He has played as an 8 and a 10 for the most part with the Fire, not an attacking winger.

Mihailovic drifts into space casually, with quick movements from him as he reads the play. Adept at striking the ball with either foot, he has a mean right footed delivery from all set pieces. Mihailovic is the kind of player that becomes more dynamic with better players. Given time and space to make decisions, he will always choose a dangerous option. He has good vision for the pass but is most dangerous getting into the box to shoot. Has that knack for finding the play.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #81
Friday December 28, 2018 6:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,262
Jonathan Lewis added to the roster. I think he has a lot of talent. Really hope he sees more minutes with NYCFC this up coming season. Berhalter can see the lack of wing options. Which is an area of concern going forward. Beyond Pulisic, I would say both wings are in need of good depth.

Dave
Post #82
Saturday December 29, 2018 4:50am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 983
@ 2tone - there is a definite lack of American creative & attacking talent within MLS. There are prospects/options in Europe, but we won't see which of them Greg B. sees a options for his style of play until the March FIFA window.

Lilshmike
Post #83
Saturday December 29, 2018 8:06am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,099
Original post from hamsamwich

We started this off by naming guys you wanted to see. I went with Bello (due to have a great development year under de Boer) and Mihailovic. I got one of two I wanted.

A quick primer on Djordje Mihailovic:

Played up and scored the winning goal at 16 for the ussda champion Fire a few years ago. This was the team with Lillard, Pineda, Lindley and Gutman. And Mihailovic made the key plays getting called up late in the season as a 15 yr old.

Homegrown player for Chicago, his size has been an issue with us soccer in the past and is one of the reasons he didn't play much for youth teams. He has played as an 8 and a 10 for the most part with the Fire, not an attacking winger.

Mihailovic drifts into space casually, with quick movements from him as he reads the play. Adept at striking the ball with either foot, he has a mean right footed delivery from all set pieces. Mihailovic is the kind of player that becomes more dynamic with better players. Given time and space to make decisions, he will always choose a dangerous option. He has good vision for the pass but is most dangerous getting into the box to shoot. Has that knack for finding the play.
What kind of supporter provides candid feedback of guys playing in MLS? Quit being a fanboy...

hamsamwich
Post #84
Saturday December 29, 2018 1:13pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,034
We won't win anything as a country until the MLS is close to even with some of the other leagues abroad. The domestic players have to be better. The younger set of MLS guys (say age 23 or less) are a different breed to the players who have come before.

It's hard to accept Atlanta coming in and dominating (like a Seattle 2.0) the league while my Chicago Fire are terrible (and have no plan, Gutman and Las will never play for the club). But Atlanta has done everything right and signal a move toward the MLS future. The other clubs need to catch up.

George Bello getting a season of run while Atlanta competes for titles is everything an MLS fan could want.

bjelks
Post #85
Saturday December 29, 2018 2:19pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,137
There's no problem with MLS the league or the players. The problem is when USA/ MLS/ USSF fans/ staff have an unrealistic perception of the league and its players and that results in passing on better players abroad for the national team, which ultimately results on the natl team underperforming.

I've said on a number of occasions that Steffen and Adams, who were MLS players are automatic starters.
I've also said on numerous occasions that I want to see MLS players that are Under 23 eligible.
I personally see no value or benefit in MLS players over 23 unless there are extenuating circumstances.

I have a problem with comments or thinking that refutes what the majority of the world believes as fact, just to make MLS look more credible.
An example would be thinking that Gyasi Zardes is better than a Bundesliga striker.
Another example would be thinking natl team players who were solid Euro players 5 yrs ago like Bradley and Jozy are better than solid Euro players today.
My last example would be thinking that Will Trapp/ Delgado/ Roldan are better than Bundesliga and Premier League players or that picking them over better players doesn't affect the quality of the natl team. These are all examples of fanboying.

In closing, I think MLS should be a strong vehicle for developing and selling young players, but should not be a relied on for fielding a natl team capable of advancing to WC knockout round.
goalsense
Lilshmike
Post #86
Saturday December 29, 2018 2:46pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,099
Original post from hamsamwich

We won't win anything as a country until the MLS is close to even with some of the other leagues abroad. The domestic players have to be better. The younger set of MLS guys (say age 23 or less) are a different breed to the players who have come before.

It's hard to accept Atlanta coming in and dominating (like a Seattle 2.0) the league while my Chicago Fire are terrible (and have no plan, Gutman and Las will never play for the club). But Atlanta has done everything right and signal a move toward the MLS future. The other clubs need to catch up.

George Bello getting a season of run while Atlanta competes for titles is everything an MLS fan could want.
MLS is already pretty close to as good or better than a lot of leagues. We're one to two collective bargaining agreements away from becoming arguably the best league in the western hemisphere. Increased salary caps and DPs would do that. That's a topic for another discussion though.

The stronger our domestic league, the better our national team will likely be. The problem is that as the league grows, theres going to be a greater influx of foreign imports on teams who will likely push out some of our domestic players (same problem that England has had in years past).

I wouldn't limit your statement to domestic players. The reality is that all of our players need to be better. It's great that we have kids going to academies all over the world and getting signed to teams at 17 in top leagues, but if those kids aren't able to crack into the team and spend multiple seasons only playing in the reserves then it isn't good enough.

hamsamwich
Post #87
Tuesday January 22, 2019 3:52pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,034
Quietest Camp Cupcake I ever remember. Usually a time for fun, media interviews and the like seems to have been replaced by a serious mentality.

I look forward to the game this Sunday with the assumption these guys have been practicing this whole time. "Fun is winning and winning is fun." - to quote a great sportsman

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #88
Wednesday January 23, 2019 1:16am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,262
Final 23:

GK: Johnson, Steffen

D: Lima, Cannon, Lovitz, Rosenberry, McKenzie, Long, Zimmerman, Trusty

M: Bradley, Lletget, Trapp, Mihailovic, Lewis, Canouse, Arriola, Baird, Delgado, Roldan

F: Ebobissie, Zardes, Ramirez

blaise213
Post #89
Wednesday January 23, 2019 1:27am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,843
Just got the alert Acosta was cut from the camp. Seems like Berhalter gets it!

Dave
Post #90
Wednesday January 23, 2019 2:50am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 983
Original post from blaise213

Just got the alert Acosta was cut from the camp. Seems like Berhalter gets it!


If Berhalter really got it he would have sent either Bradley or Trapp packing before Acosta. Acosta provides nearly the same skill set with greater athletic ability. At this point we're going to have to sit back and counter in both these games, because our midfield will be too slow to press high or make recovering runs.

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