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bjelks
Post #211
Saturday February 2, 2019 10:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,086
Original post from Lilshmike

@bjelks

Hahaha find where I said he was in the best 11. You can't, because I haven't said that. I legitimately said in this same thread that Bradley is a fringe player to make the 11 and is a consistent 23 selection based on the fact that Berhalter... the coach himself... has said that he is in the plan moving forward.

Quit putting words in people's mouths. I'm not back tracking. I don't have to because there are posts in this thread that anyone can go back and look at if they want to cross reference anything. The same posts where I have pretty much said that we need to take what we see from these games with a grain of salt because the squad is filled with what...? Right, players from MLS.

For the record, I wont be responding further to your ridiculous posts in this thread. Your nonsense, although hilarious to read, needs to stop.


You said in a previous thread months ago when I asked you who would play in your preferred 11 in a competitive game if it was tomorrow, and you for sure mentioned Bradley as the anchor in a 5-3-2, again quit back tracking.
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bjelks
Post #212
Saturday February 2, 2019 10:59pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,086
And Roldan is the perfect example of a career MLS player, avg athleticism and poor technique and poor confidence
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blaise213
Post #213
Saturday February 2, 2019 11:02pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,808
Roldan sucks....

Time to sub in Ramirez for Zardes

Lilshmike
Post #214
Saturday February 2, 2019 11:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,063
Original post from blaise213

Breaking news ...... Will Trapp Sucks

Yawn ....
Yeah.... that's not even accurate. Hes been very good today.

blaise213
Post #215
Saturday February 2, 2019 11:36pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,808
Original post from Lilshmike

Yeah.... that's not even accurate. Hes been very good today.


MLS lifer

Doesn't belong anywhere near an A squad

stone88
Post #216
Sunday February 3, 2019 12:53am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,482
From this camp cupcake I liked Mihailovic and Lima. Others played well, but those two really stood out to me and I'd like to see how they play with our first team and against a little better competition.

Lilshmike
Post #217
Sunday February 3, 2019 1:54am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,063
Sorry... I lied. I'm going to respond one more time.

@bjelks

You're referring to the November friendlies thread. Here is a link to the thread you're referring to...

http://locker.yanks-abroad.com/?mode=topics&t...

If you notice on page 3 of the thread, I said this...

Original post from Lilshmike

...and full disclosure, I think Bradley should still be in consideration for the USMNT. But I DO NOT think that he should be a consistent starter or selection, and I DO NOT think that he should captain our side again. His time has come, and it has almost gone. There is something to be said about building, and there are a few guys who seem to be regulars moving forward that should be forced to grow up and accept a leadership position and direct us towards qualification...


Where here did I say he was an automatic starter? I pretty much said exactly what I have consistently said, and said in this thread... he is a fringe 11 player but should be selected to the 23.

With respect to the lineup that you requested I give, which starts on page 16 of the thread and continues to page 17, I said there were different circumstances that could influence different lineups and asked you to clarify. Based on your parameters, I presented this...
Original post from Lilshmike

...
Given the above points, here you go: 5-3-2 with wing backs
-Dwyer/???-Wood-
--Pulisic--
-Bradley/???-McKennie-
Fabjo---Yedlin
-Ream/???-Brooks-Miazga-
--Guzan--

...

Notice the ??? Next to Bradley? Yeah, basically stating that I think he is fringe and not sure if he should be an automatic 11 player. Exactly as I said in this thread, and that one.

Again, I am not back tracking. I even dug up the evidence and proof to show it.

What are you gonna say about this now? Honestly, you should just stop because you consistently get proven wrong. It's not even close, it's not even a debate, its complete and utter nonsense.

How's that for standing ground like a man and not back tracking?

Lilshmike
Post #218
Sunday February 3, 2019 2:09am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,063
Apologies to everyone on the boards. For real this time, I will no longer be responding to bjelks in this thread.

Lets get the convo back on track about the performance over the course of this camp.

bjelks
Post #219
Sunday February 3, 2019 2:14am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,086
Original post from Lilshmike

Sorry... I lied. I'm going to respond one more time.

@bjelks

You're referring to the November friendlies thread. Here is a link to the thread you're referring to...

http://locker.yanks-abroad.com/?mode=topics&t...

If you notice on page 3 of the thread, I said this...

Where here did I say he was an automatic starter? I pretty much said exactly what I have consistently said, and said in this thread... he is a fringe 11 player but should be selected to the 23.

With respect to the lineup that you requested I give, which starts on page 16 of the thread and continues to page 17, I said there were different circumstances that could influence different lineups and asked you to clarify. Based on your parameters, I presented this...

Notice the ??? Next to Bradley? Yeah, basically stating that I think he is fringe and not sure if he should be an automatic 11 player. Exactly as I said in this thread, and that one.

Again, I am not back tracking. I even dug up the evidence and proof to show it.

What are you gonna say about this now? Honestly, you should just stop because you consistently get proven wrong. It's not even close, it's not even a debate, its complete and utter nonsense.

How's that for standing ground like a man and not back tracking?


I asked who's in your 11 for a competitive game if it was to happen tomorrow and you gave Bradley, so there's nothing to explain. You would start him in a competitive game tomorrow which means you think he's in our best 11 right now. None of that other bullshit you said matters.
Then you doubled down and said he's in our 23 no matter what, so again not interested in the other bullshit. You favor Bradley over players playing at higher levels.

Bradley isn't in my 11 or 23 if everyone is available.
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Philip
Post #220
Sunday February 3, 2019 2:56am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 30
Original post from bjelks
Bradley isn't in my 11 or 23 if everyone is available.

Alfredo Morales is. Tyler Adams just played a game against him(his first Bundesliga game btw) and he was clearly the better player. Tyler Adams has just started his Bundesliga career and he didn't suddenly become a better player overnight because of it. He was better than Morales while he was still playing in MLS. It Tyler Adams was better than a Bundesliga player then isn't it possible that other MLS players are too. The Bundesliga as a whole is better than MLS but that doesn't mean that every Bundesliga player is better than every MLS player. That point now being proven, thanks to Tyler Adam's, we can stop listing the league they play in as a reason to include a player. Maybe you could even admit that the only reason you think Morales should be included is because he plays in the Bundesliga. I know that's too much to ask.

Live490
Texas
Post #221
Sunday February 3, 2019 3:24am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,155
This^ is on point Philip.

db707
Post #222
Sunday February 3, 2019 11:43am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 824
Original post from blaise213

US vs Ecuador in March

Only player from this roster should be Zack Steffen


Good thing you're not picking the roster.

bjelks
Post #223
Sunday February 3, 2019 3:37pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,086
Original post from Philip

Alfredo Morales is. Tyler Adams just played a game against him(his first Bundesliga game btw) and he was clearly the better player. Tyler Adams has just started his Bundesliga career and he didn't suddenly become a better player overnight because of it. He was better than Morales while he was still playing in MLS. It Tyler Adams was better than a Bundesliga player then isn't it possible that other MLS players are too. The Bundesliga as a whole is better than MLS but that doesn't mean that every Bundesliga player is better than every MLS player. That point now being proven, thanks to Tyler Adam's, we can stop listing the league they play in as a reason to include a player. Maybe you could even admit that the only reason you think Morales should be included is because he plays in the Bundesliga. I know that's too much to ask.


@Phillip there's a difference between a teenager developing in MLS and moving abroad to test themselves and cash in and a veteran player (late 20s to early 30s) coming to MLS because they fell out of favor in Bundesliga and wanted an easy check an easy mins going into retirement.
One of these players has limitless upside, the other is declining drastically.
Tyler Adams is a world class athlete with limitless upside, someone like Bradley for example is very physically limited which significantly impacts his ability to be effective at the international level.

This is why I always say I want MLS guys under 21 that are still developing and want to earn a transfer to a better league over a mid to late 20s veteran. Young players are still developing, still hungry, much more motivated than the guys in MLS to retire.
To be clear, a young teenage phenom who it using MLS as a springboard to Europe is not your avg MLS player, your avg MLS players are guys like Roldan, Trapp, Zardes, Baird. These guys are either too limited physically or technically or creatively to make an impact at a higher level.

In soccer (football) you know what you have by 20, 16-20 are the development yrs, so if you're 23+ in MLS, chances are you'll never be good enough for Bundesliga.
I say all that to say Adams like Mckennie, Pulisic, Sargent is a phenom and can't be used to represent even a good MLS player being better than Bundesliga players.
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bjelks
Post #224
Sunday February 3, 2019 3:44pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,086
If a player like Morales is called in and is awful and an MLS player plays better, then we can make the argument that not all Bundesliga players are better, but we have a problem with credibility when we don't even give these players who the football world outside of America considers to be better even a call up into camp.
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Philip
Post #225
Sunday February 3, 2019 4:16pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 30
Original post from bjelks

If a player like Morales is called in and is awful and an MLS player plays better, then we can make the argument that not all Bundesliga players are better, but we have a problem with credibility when we don't even give these players who the football world outside of America considers to be better even a call up into camp.

Which American players playing first team soccer have not been called in? To your other point about a 25 year old MLS player, Stuart Holden.

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