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Post #136
Monday January 28, 2019 6:43pm

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This is a pretty good January camp squad. There are some fringe names that will probably never receive a call for a meaningful match but depth is always good. But it is amazing what a coach who knows the league and has tactical acumen can do for a squad. Easily could have had 4-5 goals, *ahem* Zardes but at least he was getting those chances.

As for Blaise, there is a unborn child to an American living in Brazil that is better than most of the players on the national team. I cannot take anything that guy says seriously.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #137
Monday January 28, 2019 6:47pm

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Good lord all this Blaise roasting is spicy and entertaining.

Regarding Baird, he definitely did set the team back a few times, especially in the second half. Perhaps he's no more than depth, a fringe bench spot on what could be the full roster, but I think he should definitely get another look. Agree with Lleget, like Lowitz well enough, but I imagine tucked in full backs like we have makes the job a touch easier.

Anyone think this system (from the whole one game we've seen of it) doesn't play to Yedlins strengths?

Lilshmike
Post #138
Monday January 28, 2019 7:19pm

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Original post from Fraser31

Good lord all this Blaise roasting is spicy and entertaining.

Regarding Baird, he definitely did set the team back a few times, especially in the second half. Perhaps he's no more than depth, a fringe bench spot on what could be the full roster, but I think he should definitely get another look. Agree with Lleget, like Lowitz well enough, but I imagine tucked in full backs like we have makes the job a touch easier.

Anyone think this system (from the whole one game we've seen of it) doesn't play to Yedlins strengths?
Interesting. Elaborate please.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #139
Monday January 28, 2019 7:46pm

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Idk, could be totally off the mark here, but I'll give it a go. For starters, I'll just say that it's natural that a player or more than one player doesn't naturally benefit from a given system, or their particular strengths don't really add anything beneficial to the said system. Also, I don't suggest Yedlin is incapable of adapting or that this system should change to accommodate him.

For Newcastle and traditionally in the USMNT, though, his biggest strengths are tracking people back on a counter/break and getting forward and making a cross/getting into a dangerous position. I didn't see many runs forward from the fullbacks last night, they aren't those types of players. The fullbacks were more tucked in going forward, and I don't recall them overlapping the wingers in the run of play.

Just seems like Yedlin wouldn't benefit from this type of formation. In fact, I would say Yedlin's biggest fault is his positioning. This system could benefit him in that respect, giving him less space to actually have to manage, but if he doesn't adapt in that sense, it seems like he's had his wings clipped offensively for no reason.

It's far too early to tell, and there's no reason to believe that Berhalter won't give him license to roam forward once he gets comfortable with the team and their strengths, but that thought came to mind watching the game.

Final disclaimer, Yedlin's become a more mature player over the past year and a half, so this could all be senseless worrying.

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Post #140
Monday January 28, 2019 8:05pm

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Wasn't Lima playing a RB/RM in front of the bck 3 last night? Why can't Yedlin be successful in this role remember Yedlin was a better attacking than defending. He acquired his defending and his crossing ability overtime. Why can't he play a defensive midfielder role? Since he has basically done both his entire career just on the outside. He has approved his passing just in this area his passing has to be more crisp because losing the ball in the central area 30-35 yards from goal is different than losing the ball on the wings, if a player still has work to do. But I think Yedlin, in my opinion could do fine in this system because once he losses his speed anyway than what? He is going to have to play more central, leave less space occupied and not make as many runs down the flank.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #141
Monday January 28, 2019 8:33pm

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Baird had the opening assist and went just wide on getting himself a goal. I don't fault him for trying to make things happen. Overall he had a solid game.

bjelks
Post #142
Monday January 28, 2019 8:34pm

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I think Yedlin's biggest issues are his technical and creative limitations.
I also think that he's too technically limited to play RM.
I haven't seen Yedlin stand someone up from the touch line and beat them goal line for a lay-off cross or shot.
Also haven't seen Yedlin, combine in the final 3rd for a give and go to get behind in the final 3rd.
These qualities are required for an intl RM.

When Yedlin is too slow to track back, he'll fade out of EPL and National team.
We simply have too much talent coming through the pipeline at DM and RM.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #143
Monday January 28, 2019 8:37pm

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I also think Lima will get many more opportunities at RB. Is more of a finished product than Cannon.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #144
Monday January 28, 2019 9:15pm

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Very impressed with Lima, Mihailovic, and Baird.

The midfield battle in March is gonna be fun. Alot of good options.

Never understood why Bradley was fazed out in 2018. Hes still rock solid and can spray passes with th best of them. Id take him over Trapp in a heartbeat.

The race for the RCB is wide open

cudevil
Post #145
Monday January 28, 2019 9:37pm

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Original post from bjelks

I think Yedlin's biggest issues are his technical and creative limitations.
I also think that he's too technically limited to play RM.
I haven't seen Yedlin stand someone up from the touch line and beat them goal line for a lay-off cross or shot.
Also haven't seen Yedlin, combine in the final 3rd for a give and go to get behind in the final 3rd.
These qualities are required for an intl RM.

When Yedlin is too slow to track back, he'll fade out of EPL and National team.
We simply have too much talent coming through the pipeline at DM and RM.


He's 25. Losing a step due to age is probably 5-7 years away at least.

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Post #146
Monday January 28, 2019 9:39pm

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To be fair to Yedlin, he used to get forward well (Seattle era, JK's usa). But the problem recently has been that he plays for a team always defending at Newcastle, and Bruce arena and Sarachan had no attack plan. I'm not sold he's even our starting RB as the job is wide open, but give him a chance in the new system and see what he can do with teammates who want to get on the ball and pass it in behind to a runner. People being much too hasty calling for Yedlin to be left out. It's ironic as the guy used to be questioned for his defense now people treat him like a defensive specialist.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #147
Monday January 28, 2019 9:55pm

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No way Yedlin should be dropped, but I do think he has competition which is always a good thing.

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Post #148
Monday January 28, 2019 10:24pm

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I am just saying if Yedlin can be a starter for a Premier League club and has shown as much improvement as he has over the years. Dude has continuously improved. I wouldn't object to him playing the RWB/RDM hybrid role. Like I will said he will need to work on the shapeness and crispness of his passes in tighter passes as giveaways tend to be more costly from that position. But he has led many a counter attacks out wide why can't he learn to do this from the inside?

bjelks
Post #149
Monday January 28, 2019 10:54pm

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Original post from cudevil

He's 25. Losing a step due to age is probably 5-7 years away at least.


Not claiming that he will lose a step any time soon, just saying disagreeing that he will transition to RM or CDM to get a younger player on at RB.
I also think the that Dest will be a regular at a better club than Newcastle 2-3 yrs
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bjelks
Post #150
Monday January 28, 2019 10:58pm

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Original post from EKneezy

Very impressed with Lima, Mihailovic, and Baird.

The midfield battle in March is gonna be fun. Alot of good options.

Never understood why Bradley was fazed out in 2018. Hes still rock solid and can spray passes with th best of them. Id take him over Trapp in a heartbeat.

The race for the RCB is wide open


I'd take Mckennie, Adams, D Will, A Morales, Durkin, Canouse over Bradley or Trapp in a heartbeat
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