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PortCityFan
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Post #301
Wednesday September 12, 2018 5:08am

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 206
#9
Weah. Green. Pulisic
Mckennie. Adams

LB. Brooks. Miazga. Yedlin

Steffen

We're not far off guys. Parks develops into a Matic type player like Benfica are claiming they can do, that can make us able to play a variety of formations. LB still seems to be our Achilles, more so than target forward. I like Robinson but don't know if he's the answer yet. I think the rest of the roster should fill out like this:

Parks
Morales/ Acosta ( need to see a non MLS move soon from Acosta)
Novakovich
Guzan
CCV
EPB
Moore
Wood/ Sargent/ both (Sargent if he's able to break in for some senior minutes with WB)
Robinson
F Johnson (think we could get a lot out of him as a true left wing)
Still lacking a true right winger, Arriola is not the answer

Wingers to watch (Something we are in much need of)
Josh Pynadath ( a few years out but can play as a true left winger)
I have nothing at RW? How's McKenzie Gaines doing at Darmstadt Bjelks?

skangles
DC
Post #302
Wednesday September 12, 2018 5:14am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,446
Original post from bjelks

Might as well have a cone on the field instead of Trapp


That comparison is reserved for Danny Califf.

db707
Post #303
Wednesday September 12, 2018 10:42am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,018
Original post from Know Nothing

And a little shout out to Miazga for bringing the edge to an otherwise dull affair. Immature perhaps, but it riled everyone up and got Lianez off his game. Will be highlight reel stuff for a bit.


We need guys out there who give a damn. We don't need them to be choirboys. Miazga's not perfect, but he's a good defender who clearly gives a damn.

skangles
DC
Post #304
Wednesday September 12, 2018 12:18pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,446


bjelks
Post #305
Wednesday September 12, 2018 12:26pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,366
Original post from PortCityFan

#9
Weah. Green. Pulisic
Mckennie. Adams

LB. Brooks. Miazga. Yedlin

Steffen

We're not far off guys. Parks develops into a Matic type player like Benfica are claiming they can do, that can make us able to play a variety of formations. LB still seems to be our Achilles, more so than target forward. I like Robinson but don't know if he's the answer yet. I think the rest of the roster should fill out like this:

Parks
Morales/ Acosta ( need to see a non MLS move soon from Acosta)
Novakovich
Guzan
CCV
EPB
Moore
Wood/ Sargent/ both (Sargent if he's able to break in for some senior minutes with WB)
Robinson
F Johnson (think we could get a lot out of him as a true left wing)
Still lacking a true right winger, Arriola is not the answer

Wingers to watch (Something we are in much need of)
Josh Pynadath ( a few years out but can play as a true left winger)
I have nothing at RW? How's McKenzie Gaines doing at Darmstadt Bjelks?


Haven't heard anything about Gaines. I got my eyes on Gall and Gooch, maybe Gyau.
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cudevil
Post #306
Wednesday September 12, 2018 12:27pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from bjelks

Lmao this game doesn't tell me anything about needing Jozy.
Nova didn't see a minute because Sarachan is a clown.
Sarachan also didn't pick a winger option outside of Arriola, who we already knew doesnt cut it for this level.
I don't care that Sargeant doesn't have any Bundesliga goals, Altidore has 3 more premiership
goals than him and Sargeant is 10 yrs younger.
Jozy isn't a better option than healthy Ajo. At least no one outside of MLS would agree.
To say that Gooch, Gall, Sabbi Amon, aren't good enough for call ups is laughable.
And Sarachan continues to give the captain's arm band and starting 6 role to Trapp who can't defend anyone 1v1.
Will someone explain how Delgado and Roldan are getting consistent call ups over Morales and D Will.

This roster was shit, Sarachan's tactics were shit, and these 2 games were a waste of an international break. We got our 3rd best player injured for 2 months in a meaningless game because he's trying to do everything and overcompensate for his sorry ass teammates, half of them deployed out of position.


ArJo is never healthy and hasn't performed at Jozy's level for the Nats, despite opportunities. Until he goes a year without an injury, he's unreliable.

Wood has been out of form for a long time.

Although Nova should have gotten minutes, he's playing in a league well below MLS quality and isn't dominating.

If you want to play Pulisic as a false 9 or if Sargent gets regular run with Bremen, fine. Outside of that? Jozy is by far the best option.

bjelks
Post #307
Wednesday September 12, 2018 1:15pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,366
I respect the Arjo comments.

Wood has had a bad club situation, but I believe he has better work rate and just as good if not better technically. They're both tap-in specialists.

I disagree that MLS is better league than Eredivisie. No MLS team can beat any of the top 5 and No teams as respected at PSV, Ajax, or Feyenoord. Eredivisie has a rep of being the best development league in the world. Some of the best ever have came from Eredivisie. MLS had established 7 new clubs in the last 8 yrs.

Also, Nova scored a brilliant individual goal against world power PSV where he brought the ball down outside of 18, beat his man and scored outside of 18, which we haven't seen Jozy is capable of.
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cudevil
Post #308
Wednesday September 12, 2018 1:27pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from bjelks

I respect the Arjo comments.

Wood has had a bad club situation, but I believe he has better work rate and just as good if not better technically. They're both tap-in specialists.

I disagree that MLS is better league than Eredivisie. No MLS team can beat any of the top 5 and No teams as respected at PSV, Ajax, or Feyenoord. Eredivisie has a rep of being the best development league in the world. Some of the best ever have came from Eredivisie. MLS had established 7 new clubs in the last 8 yrs.

Also, Nova scored a brilliant individual goal against world power PSV where he brought the ball down outside of 18, beat his man and scored outside of 18, which we haven't seen Jozy is capable of.


My fault...I forgot that Nova has transferred to the Eredivisie. I thought he was still in Div. 2. But remember, Jozy tore up the Eresdivisie

db707
Post #309
Wednesday September 12, 2018 1:35pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,018
Original post from bjelks

Also, Nova scored a brilliant individual goal against world power PSV where he brought the ball down outside of 18, beat his man and scored outside of 18, which we haven't seen Jozy is capable of.


Novakovich's goal against PSV was well inside the 18, this is false (color me shocked).

Lilshmike
Post #310
Wednesday September 12, 2018 1:58pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,303
Original post from db707

Novakovich's goal against PSV was well inside the 18, this is false (color me shocked).
Yeah... remember bjelks, Jozy also bagged 31 goals in one season while playing in the Eredivisie. Haven't seen Novakovich do that yet.

Here is a shocking idea (and this applies to a lot of the people on this site)... maybe you think certain players are much better than they really are. We know that they play on teams in big leagues, and are being developed in academies... but people are rating them based off never watching them play a full 90, or because they see select 30 second highlights of them, or because they hear that they got some reserve team minutes via twitter.

I would have loved to see Novakovich play so we could see what he has to offer. However, here is another idea... maybe he isn't as good yet as we want to think he is. I mean, he was training for an entire week with the USMNT. He would have been able to play and be evaluated side by side with Wood and Zardes, yet he was the only one who didn't play. Its extremely possible that there was a reason for that outside of "Sarachan is a clown".

Does anyone really think that we don't have scouting networks set up, and people watching full games both in person as well as on film? If a lot of these guys aren't getting called in or getting playing time, there is likely a reason... and that reason is likely due to club situation, injury, or them not being as good as other options we have. Certainly there are exceptions to the rule... but probably not many.

But hey, when the guy who plays in Holland can't get minutes, it makes sense that we should turn to the guys playing in lower level Scandinavian leagues, League One in England, and youth academies.

bjelks
Post #311
Wednesday September 12, 2018 2:08pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,366
Original post from db707

Novakovich's goal against PSV was well inside the 18, this is false (color me shocked).


My apologies, it was well inside of 18 but the skill and composure he showed in the box is lacking in Jozy's game against.
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db707
Post #312
Wednesday September 12, 2018 2:24pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,018
It isn't just people on here, Lilshmike. A lot of U.S. soccer fans argue for guys they've never seen play or whose quality they can't possibly know. I just saw someone on another board arguing Parks is better than McKennie and Adams. Parks who is in the Benfica reserves mind you and has played parts of 4 matches for their senior team (and part of 1 for us), but we're in a post-fact world. I was arguing for Novakovich to play before because of what he's done at club level and because I'd like to see if he can perform in these situations. If Sarachan didn't feel he should get minutes based on what happened in camp, that is his prerogative. I just don't want Sarachan calling in guys who are not performing at club level, which he is also doing.

Lilshmike
Post #313
Wednesday September 12, 2018 2:25pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,303
Steffen, CCV, Adams, Mckennie: Did well, did their jobs.
Miazga: Did well, liked the attitude, but there were moments where he failed to track people and let forwards run behind him. As a defender this cannot happen. Being sharp for 90% of the game but shutting off mentally for a couple 5 second moments can't happen. And if he is going to be a reliable/trusted player moving forward this can't happen. Maybe this is why he keeps getting sent out on loan and not playing with the first team at Chelsea. Communication is key, and a lot of that falls on Steffen. Maybe he wasn't organizing and managing the game as well as he could have, but Miazga needs to improve there. I'm being critical of him, but rightly so. If he will be our starter for the next cycle, we need to expect better from him.
Lichaj: Not great, but LB is not his position. He gets a pass because of that, but he is no more than a depth piece outside back at this point.
Moore: Poor in my opinion. Got stuck in on challenges he had no business going in for. Far too many times got caught out of position and failed to track the men on his side. He got away with this overall and wasn't exposed much because Mexico were poor, but Moore was bad. He is nowhere near the level of Yedlin, Chandler, or (defensively speaking and not athletically) Lichaj at RB.
Trapp: Did his job. Wasn't spectacular, but wasn't bad. Kept possession well when he had it, worked to get the ball back when we lost it. Again, drifted high a bit too much at times for my liking, but he deserves to be in the pool and continue to be looked at. Not saying he is a starter by any means, but I don't understand the hate he gets from people.
Acosta: Played out of position. Can't fault him for the performance too much as a result.
Weah: Subpar. He did OK, but thought he would do a bit better. Its easy to see why he sits the bench at PSG. He isn't ready yet to be a starter for them or the USMNT.
Zardes: He doesn't have a great touch, and has scored his goals this season as a result of good service to him. He lacked that service last night. Also was double teamed most of the game, so didn't have much room to move. Given that, he should only be called in as depth if we have a lot of injuries and forwards are out. Dwyer is much better.
Green: Subpar. Thought he would have done better once the formation changed to 4-4-2, but he didnt. He moved under Zardes and was just barely OK IMO. He had a couple of moments where he had good play, but had some bad moments as well. If he isn't dominating the 10 against a youth/reserve Mexican side, then he isn't good enough.

Lilshmike
Post #314
Wednesday September 12, 2018 2:31pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,303
Original post from db707

It isn't just people on here, Lilshmike. A lot of U.S. soccer fans argue for guys they've never seen play or whose quality they can't possibly know. I just saw someone on another board arguing Parks is better than McKennie and Adams. Parks who is in the Benfica reserves mind you and has played parts of 4 matches for their senior team (and part of 1 for us), but we're in a post-fact world. I was arguing for Novakovich to play before because of what he's done at club level and because I'd like to see if he can perform in these situations. If Sarachan didn't feel he should get minutes based on what happened in camp, that is his prerogative. I just don't want Sarachan calling in guys who are not performing at club level, which he is also doing.
I agree with this statement entirely.

I wanted to see Nova play. But its possible that he didn't do well in camp. Moore had absolutely no business being there. None whatsoever.

One player that I appreciate was called in (although I don't care for him and wouldn't have called him in) is Zardes. From a matter of principle, he has been scoring goals in MLS - so he deserves it and he should be rewarded. If players are playing consistently and have earned the right to be there, they should be. Again, I don't like him, but thats fair and it sets a standard for which a player can expect to get a call. It shouldn't be given, it should be earned.

bjelks
Post #315
Wednesday September 12, 2018 2:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,366
Yes Jozy bagged 31 in Eredivisie 6 yrs ago.

I'm sorry I don't trust USSF, their management, scouting, or coaching who has historically been dysfunctional and underperformed developing players. Example: last qualification cycle!

Sarachan has been MLS biased on fringe players, has picked teams lacking creative players and competent wingers and over loaded with holding mids, he's picked Trapp to Captain 6 out of his first 8 games and he's been for the most part the worst player on the field, played his best creative player out of position (Green) and hasnt given an explanation for any of it. To think about it, instead building tactics round the 2 best players Mckennie and Adams, he built them around Trapp to give him exposure for a transfer. And benched his best striker(Nova) prospect for Zardes who he's coached for his entire career lol.

Nope I don't trust USSF and the Men's Program.

So yes I would call all Sarachan a clown
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