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PortCityFan
Louisiana
Post #121
Wednesday July 4, 2018 5:44pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 183
After watching this game on DVR, can we talk about the lack of respect for Geiger from the get go from both of these teams? I'm am by no ways defending him, but his job was not made easy by both teams constantly whining about every call. Should he be persuaded easily or even entertain this much conversation? No, I mean as a ref you hope to have open dialogue with the players within reason but come on. His reputation from the panama game definitely preceded him but we have to ask why has there not been anyone to remove Geiger as the top official. We produce class AR but how are none able to move forward in their development? Has the addition of Howard Webb not helped us? Would promotion/ relegation help in this in any way? Should we push to 40 teams in MLS so they can create a second division? A perfect example is the J- League. They are a younger league and are developing talent and their referees are respected. Could pro/ rel be the answer to more than just player development?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #122
Wednesday July 4, 2018 7:00pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,802
I thought Geiger was very consistent in his calling. All I want form a red is consistency and he did that to both teams. And yes the disrespect Americans get at all levels regarding soccer is bordering on asenine. The snobbishness permeates everywhere including American fans now.

db707
Post #123
Thursday July 5, 2018 2:56am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 700
The BBC article I read earlier today called him Mike Geiger, then slagged him. Couldn't even be bothered to get his name right.

tjknowsall
Post #124
Thursday July 5, 2018 2:46pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 366
I thought he reffed a very good game for the way the game was played. Their was a 30 min period in which the players weren't playing soccer and only fouling and yelling at the ref... any team that scuffs up the penalty spot before the other team shoots can not complain about the ref... why are people blaming the ref for giving out deserved yellows and doing his best to control a game that imo no ref could have controlled without giving out a red and let's all be honest no one wanted to see a red in that game. I give Geiger a 7/10 good job.

oldguy
Post #125
Thursday July 5, 2018 3:18pm

Joined Jan 2017
Total Posts: 14
When Geiger did not use VAR on the head butt and gave only a yellow card, while allowing himself to be surrounded and whined at by players, which kept him from seeing the scuffing he set the tone for the type of play he was going to allow. Players fouled and pretended to be fouled and whined and cried about the calls because he allowed it.

Colombia came into the match with a tactic of physical and chippy play and Geiger was too little too late on stemming it.

I rate him a 3/10. It is not being an Eurosnob. He had a poor game.

hamsamwich
Post #126
Thursday July 5, 2018 6:39pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,743
I've never really been a fan of Geiger, I prefer Marrufo out of the two.

The Uruguay v France game really needs a healthy Cavani to be at its best but I don't know if we will see that. Colombia really suffered without James and I think Uruguay without Cavani would be in similar trouble.

A big thank you to the Brazilians for eliminating Mexico, but them winning means more watching of Neymar. So I'm hoping for a Belgian win.

db707
Post #127
Friday July 6, 2018 1:31pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 700
I totally thought Russia v Croatia was today and not Brazil v Belgium. I guess it makes sense to give the semifinalists who will play each other an "equal" amount of rest. But I have zero interest in Russia v Croatia tomorrow.

hamsamwich
Post #128
Friday July 6, 2018 1:56pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,743
@db707- I took off work today and am going in tomorrow. That's the difference in quality of the games. The "Euro group stage bracket" just isn't exciting like the varsity bracket.

dunlopp9987
Post #129
Friday July 6, 2018 4:28pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,629
Well, Muslera might've just ended Uruguay's hopes of getting back into this one
COYB!!
EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #130
Friday July 6, 2018 5:09pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,007
Tough for Muslera. He's been dealing with a lot recently.

But this was a tough matchup for Uruguay with no Cavani. With such a great defense they looked stagnant in attack.

France looked good. Pogba and Tolisso ahead of Kante should be the midfield going forward imo.

Mbappe is a terror.

db707
Post #131
Friday July 6, 2018 9:03pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 700
Well, no more Brazil and all European teams left. Can't wait for Sunday evening when we can turn the page and not be in a state of not having qualified for the World Cup.

db707
Post #132
Friday July 6, 2018 9:04pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 700
Next Sunday the 15th, I mean of course.

Know Nothing
Post #133
Friday July 6, 2018 9:35pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,438
Original post from db707

Well, no more Brazil and all European teams left. Can't wait for Sunday evening when we can turn the page and not be in a state of not having qualified for the World Cup.


Given how things have worked out, though, it may have been a blessing we did not qualify. I know it still hurts, but looking at how things have turned out...

Gulati probably runs again and probably gets elected because there is no backlash from not qualifying. Real talk of change has occurred because of it and we have been playing the next generation sooner and they drew away to a current WC semi-finalist (without Pulisic).

Maybe 5 or 6 of the players who got spring callups would have made the roster under Arena, but the majority of the qualifying team would have remained intact. Assuming we replace Panama, our seeding was such that we would have directly replaced Panama in the group with England, Brazil, and Tunisia. In all likelihood we are eliminated after 2 games having never recovered from a first game thrashing by Belgium.

Arena runs out his contract Bradley, Jozy and co. return home, saying oh well we tried. We keep plodding along saying we'll get them next time all the while all that is wrong with way the federation does things goes unanswered.

By not making the World Cup, we may have woken up and realized we need to change some things. In the process we are giving hungrier players with more potential the chance to prove themselves and hopefully that will continue still.

db707
Post #134
Friday July 6, 2018 10:03pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 700
Yeah, it will hopefully make the kids hungry to be the ones who not only brought us off the deck, but took us to another level. Certainly I can see that fire in Pulisic. It will just be nice to be able to focus on qualifying for 2022 right along with everyone else (bar Qatar of course), not be in a state of having been eliminated from the World Cup anymore.

Jzaval01
Post #135
Saturday July 7, 2018 9:40pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
If USMNT showed 1/10 of the heart Russia is showing in this world cup ... we would be in the world cup.

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