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Dave
Post #1
Tuesday April 3, 2018 1:27am

Joined Jul 2014
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The next set of Friendlies are just over the horizon. There will be 3 matches over a 10 day period (May 28th - June 9th). The EPL end around 5/13, The Bundesliga ends 5/12, which should allow for the USMNT to call in any/all European based players for an extended Camp. Considering we're only playing 1 team going to the WC (France) I hope that the USMNT Coaching staff calls in a young squad similar to the group called up for the March friendly. Keeping the MLS participants to those who have shown something over the last 2 friendlies.

Who I'd like to see called up:

Keepers: Steffen, Hamid, Horvath, Bono
Defenders: Miazga, CCV, EPB, Brooks, Yedlin, Robinson, Moore, Villafana/D. Acosta
Midfield: McKennie, Adams, K. Acosta, Parks
Attackers: Pulisic, Saief, Gooch, Weah, Rubin, Novakovich, Green, Gooch, Delgado
Alternates: Chandler, Sargent, ArJo, Siebatcheu, Amon, Alvarado/Glad

A nice mixture of players who've done well over the last couple friendlies as well as some new faces.

Know Nothing
Post #2
Tuesday April 3, 2018 3:06pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,324
Original post from Dave

The next set of Friendlies are just over the horizon. There will be 3 matches over a 10 day period (May 28th - June 9th). The EPL end around 5/13, The Bundesliga ends 5/12, which should allow for the USMNT to call in any/all European based players for an extended Camp. Considering we're only playing 1 team going to the WC (France) I hope that the USMNT Coaching staff calls in a young squad similar to the group called up for the March friendly. Keeping the MLS participants to those who have shown something over the last 2 friendlies.

Who I'd like to see called up:

Keepers: Steffen, Hamid, Horvath, Bono
Defenders: Miazga, CCV, EPB, Brooks, Yedlin, Robinson, Moore, Villafana/D. Acosta
Midfield: McKennie, Adams, K. Acosta, Parks
Attackers: Pulisic, Saief, Gooch, Weah, Rubin, Novakovich, Green, Gooch, Delgado
Alternates: Chandler, Sargent, ArJo, Siebatcheu, Amon, Alvarado/Glad

A nice mixture of players who've done well over the last couple friendlies as well as some new faces.


I like your squad...perhaps swap Gooch out and Scott in. But I would like to see two squads...your squad for the matches in Ireland and France and a "farewell" squad for the match against Bolivia that would include:

Howard, Guzan, Rimando
Cameron, Besler, Beasley,
Bradley, Bedoya, Dempsey, Donovan, Altidore

bjelks
Post #3
Tuesday April 3, 2018 5:49pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 546
Lol please God no more farewell squads to these mediocre players that have embarrassed the program. No other nation's program is this soft. What kind of message is this sending to young players and prospective dual nationals?

Give them a retired celebrity friendly with women, entertainers, and other retired players because playing them in another international match is a joke and slap in the face to young players trying to make it in Europe.
goalsense
hamsamwich
Post #4
Tuesday April 3, 2018 6:34pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,594
These games need to be about developing a new team and program. I wouldn't be against certain players making a farewell appearance but only if they fit a roster hole... like a Dempsey at attacking mid behind a younger forward like Sargent.

I'm looking forward to these games to see the young defenders play against France's attack. Good test for the kids. And please play Robinson this time.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #5
Tuesday April 3, 2018 7:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I hope it's bigger roster than 23.

Know Nothing
Post #6
Tuesday April 3, 2018 8:22pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,324
Original post from bjelks

Lol please God no more farewell squads to these mediocre players that have embarrassed the program. No other nation's program is this soft. What kind of message is this sending to young players and prospective dual nationals?

Give them a retired celebrity friendly with women, entertainers, and other retired players because playing them in another international match is a joke and slap in the face to young players trying to make it in Europe.


Not even if we call the match the He Believes Cup?

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #7
Tuesday April 3, 2018 9:48pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 975
Original post from Know Nothing

Not even if we call the match the He Believes Cup?


As long as we invite Guam, Puerto Rico, Belize, Bahamas, Turks and Caicos, Canada, Vatican, T&T(Oh wait never mind, scratch those folks and their flooded cricket pitches)

Dave
Post #8
Thursday April 5, 2018 2:38am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 870
Original post from Know Nothing

I like your squad...perhaps swap Gooch out and Scott in. But I would like to see two squads...your squad for the matches in Ireland and France and a "farewell" squad for the match against Bolivia that would include:

Howard, Guzan, Rimando
Cameron, Besler, Beasley,
Bradley, Bedoya, Dempsey, Donovan, Altidore


1) Donovan already had his farewell/send-off game. No reason to do it again.
2) Rimando, Bedoya, Besler, Gonzalez, Cameron, & Zusi haven't earned a Farewell game. For the most part they haven't contributed enough to warrant it.
3) If you want a "farewell" game/squad for the others they should have done that this past January Camp. They called in a number of other dead-end players....(Morrow, Sapong, etc.). Giving Howard & Dempsey a send-off would have been fine in Jan.
4) I expect we'll see Guzan, Bradley, & Altidore called up a few more times before they are truly put out to pasture.

Rey Regicide
Post #9
Thursday April 5, 2018 12:26pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
I am not trying to short change our players, but any long term serving US MLS player is getting paid right now in the MLS. So they don't need a testimonial for the sake of money.

We soured our memories of Arena, the 2006 to 2017 class with not qualifying for the World Cup, the only feeling right now would be one of resentment.

I think it's just best to walk away, and bring the members of the 2009 team that beat spain for a 2019 or 2029 memorial in a friendly as guests and not as players. Aside from that they did they serviced were compensated for it, noone is owed anything. Even the Donovan was too much in my opinion.

Rey Regicide
Post #10
Thursday April 5, 2018 12:27pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
And this is coming from someone who loved that 2007 class that beat Brazil in the under 20. It's just time to move on.

cudevil
Post #11
Thursday April 5, 2018 4:33pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 595
Original post from Dave

1) Donovan already had his farewell/send-off game. No reason to do it again.
2) Rimando, Bedoya, Besler, Gonzalez, Cameron, & Zusi haven't earned a Farewell game. For the most part they haven't contributed enough to warrant it.
3) If you want a "farewell" game/squad for the others they should have done that this past January Camp. They called in a number of other dead-end players....(Morrow, Sapong, etc.). Giving Howard & Dempsey a send-off would have been fine in Jan.
4) I expect we'll see Guzan, Bradley, & Altidore called up a few more times before they are truly put out to pasture.


Dempsey, Howard, and Beasley should get a send off of some sort. Even if it's just a pre-game thing.

At 33, I think the only way we see Guzan again is as a 3rd keeper/mentor type role.
I know keepers tend to stick around longer, but I don't think he's ever been good enough at the national level to start him now.

We might not see Bradley again, just because we have players in high level leagues at his position, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Chances that Jozy doesn't play a big factor are low in my opinion. He's 28 and playing well enough for TFC and, more importantly, no one has lit the world on fire for club or country since Jozy's last appearance for the Nats. If Sargent gets significant run with Bremen next year; Novakovich can move to a higher level league (while still performing); or Wood regains his form, things could change. But right now, I'd guess he's still top 2-3 in the strike pool at worst.

bjelks
Post #12
Thursday April 5, 2018 9:03pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 546
I'd say Julian green and Terrance Boyd are both more talented and playing at a higher level than Jozy.
If AJ could just get healthy, he's the most quality forward we have.
goalsense
hamsamwich
Post #13
Thursday April 5, 2018 9:54pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,594
Regarding the legendary players getting a run out (Dempsey, Howard, beasley) vs the veteran players (Gonzalez, Zusi, Besler, etc) -- that should be done on a case by case basis. I think Dempsey in particular has something to offer on the field rather than just a ceremonial sub. The games aren't that important for the future as we still won't have a permanent coach. More interesting is seeing who earns the playing time.

As much as I'd like to turn the page I think Bradley and Jozy still can offer something even as subs in two years especially Altidore who actually is playing his career best and finally healthy.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #14
Friday April 6, 2018 12:24am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,373
It's all about Sargent for me. Imo, our next noticeable break out attacker for the nats.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #15
Friday April 6, 2018 12:55am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 975
Original post from hamsamwich

Regarding the legendary players getting a run out (Dempsey, Howard, beasley) vs the veteran players (Gonzalez, Zusi, Besler, etc) - that should be done on a case by case basis. I think Dempsey in particular has something to offer on the field rather than just a ceremonial sub. The games aren't that important for the future as we still won't have a permanent coach. More interesting is seeing who earns the playing time.

As much as I'd like to turn the page I think Bradley and Jozy still can offer something even as subs in two years especially Altidore who actually is playing his career best and finally healthy.


Yes, if anyone deserves to continue(as a super super sub), it would be Dempsey, besides, I wouldnt mind sticking one to Donovan's goal tally.

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