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hamsamwich
Post #931
Tuesday July 9, 2019 3:00am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,110
I didn't read any articles but here's to hoping Gregg sees what most others see: that if healthy Tyler Adams should be our leader and play in the midfield. McKennie gets in where he fits in but for me (who watches MLS, where Adams came from and was superior to Bradley, Trapp and Canouse) Tyler Adams is the new captain midfield guy. He has a winners mentality and I think if he were on the field (even at RB/CM/selling hot dogs in the stands) we win last night.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #932
Tuesday July 9, 2019 5:38am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 786
Original post from bjelks

As mindless as saying Roldan looked good in a midfield that was over ran?
As mindless as saying Cannon who was lost when driving forward was our best player?
As mindless as saying Arriola who couldn't deliver a cross or get a shot on target was our 2nd best lol?

I liked Cannon last night btw, but his quality in the final 3rd lacks big time.


You sucked me in again.
Funny I looked at the ratings from guys who get paid to post them and they all pretty much agreed with me. I stand by what I said, the guys I mentioned did play well and I am not the only one who noticed. You seem to think that you know better than the coaches, the media, US soccer in general and everyone on these boards. You constantly tout your opinions as fact and yes YOU SPEW THE SAME MINDLESS USELESS DRIVEL post after post.

bjelks
Post #933
Tuesday July 9, 2019 12:15pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,203
Original post from Kamphgruppe

You sucked me in again.
Funny I looked at the ratings from guys who get paid to post them and they all pretty much agreed with me. I stand by what I said, the guys I mentioned did play well and I am not the only one who noticed. You seem to think that you know better than the coaches, the media, US soccer in general and everyone on these boards. You constantly tout your opinions as fact and yes YOU SPEW THE SAME MINDLESS USELESS DRIVEL post after post.


The same tools that told you Berhalter was a good hire and that we should start Bradley and Jozy until they're 40. I don't even read ratings from American writers honestly. They're contractually obligated not to be critical. If I haven't told you before, you sound like a tool and you mindlessly follow whatever USSF tells you. That's literally what produces your mindless drivel. It's laughable that you're incapable of thinking for yourself.
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Lilshmike
Post #934
Tuesday July 9, 2019 2:26pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,145
Original post from bjelks

The same tools that told you Berhalter was a good hire and that we should start Bradley and Jozy until they're 40. I don't even read ratings from American writers honestly. They're contractually obligated not to be critical. If I haven't told you before, you sound like a tool and you mindlessly follow whatever USSF tells you. That's literally what produces your mindless drivel. It's laughable that you're incapable of thinking for yourself.
Whoa... you're like, really smart. You basically just put a bunch of words in his mouth and tried to copy the things he said, kind of like an "I know you are but what am I" approach.

Keep up the good work, man!

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #935
Tuesday July 9, 2019 3:58pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,397
this thread is how I start my day with a cup of coffee

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #936
Tuesday July 9, 2019 5:24pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 786
Original post from bjelks

The same tools that told you Berhalter was a good hire and that we should start Bradley and Jozy until they're 40. I don't even read ratings from American writers honestly. They're contractually obligated not to be critical. If I haven't told you before, you sound like a tool and you mindlessly follow whatever USSF tells you. That's literally what produces your mindless drivel. It's laughable that you're incapable of thinking for yourself.


I was against the hiring of GB and you can look back at old post to see if you like. The hiring process is over and I support the team not consistently demean and and make fun of only us based players. These boards are very Euro centric and that's ok the Euro leagues are better in most cases. So no I don't mindlessly follow anything I state my opinion and it is not usually on par with what most here believe. I would be fine with an all Euro based team if they were the best players. Also why would American analyst or media be any worse that those of other countries. You truly believe that Americans are inferior in Soccer or anything to do with Soccer. I don't.

bjelks
Post #937
Tuesday July 9, 2019 5:47pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,203
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I was against the hiring of GB and you can look back at old post to see if you like. The hiring process is over and I support the team not consistently demean and and make fun of only us based players. These boards are very Euro centric and that's ok the Euro leagues are better in most cases. So no I don't mindlessly follow anything I state my opinion and it is not usually on par with what most here believe. I would be fine with an all Euro based team if they were the best players. Also why would American analyst or media be any worse that those of other countries. You truly believe that Americans are inferior in Soccer or anything to do with Soccer. I don't.


Lol, how many trophies outside of CONCACAF has the USA men's program won at any level?

How many American managers have won a trophy abroad at the club level?

How many American men have been short listed for Ballon d'or?

How many Americans have played in a Champs League Final?

The pt is there is no evidence to believe USSF has any idea what they're doing

If you were against the hiring of Gregg, but support or do not publicly disagree with his decisions no matter that they are, isn't that being mindless?
In other words, you don't think he should have the job but you're going to support whatever he does just because he has the job. To me, that's spineless.

I've listened to Stu, Landon, Lalas, twellman. They're never critical of player selections or tactics. They're fucking cheerleaders. Either they're too lazy to do research or they're afraid to ruffle feathers. Either way, we have the softest soccer media in the world
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camparkinson
Post #938
Tuesday July 9, 2019 5:57pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 312
Im not happy with the player selection for the overall roster, I'm not happy with the starting lineups and especially the subs made in the finals were insanely bad. But the team did show some progress and have a decent play style and showed some patterns of play. I just hope Greg sees that Bradley, Zardes and others aren't good enough. I hope he realizes Pulisic isn't a CAM and he needs to be wide, hopefully its Pomykal/Holmes getting some chances there.

MLSsoccer.com podcast did blast Greg for the terrible subs, blasted Zardes for not being good enough, blasted all three subs and were calling out Greg to be better with the in game changes where Martino clearly out coached him...

Bjelks why did a champions league player let a MLS player walk right by him and score the game winner? Dos Santos dominated the second half for Mexico and specifically Mckennie, capping it with that goal where McKennie and him were standing next to each other and one player ran and the other jogged...

Lilshmike
Post #939
Tuesday July 9, 2019 6:14pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,145
Hahaha guys, quit responding to bjelks. He's made a reputation on being a troll who makes wild baseless claims about players he does not watch or has admittedly never seen, consistently name calls and tells everyone who doesn't agree with him that they're blindly following USSF and MLS, has a horrible habit of making patently false claims about things that people have said or intentionally puts words in their mouths, and immediately shifts topics or changes his argument when its outrageously clear that what he is saying is wrong.

And thats before getting into his noted habit of making any point of criticism some issue about race.

It happens so often that it has become a joke on this site. He legitimately brings nothing to the table (other than comedy from his ridiculous, continuous, never ending nonsense).

Candidly, its probably worth our time to either ignore or mock/make fun of him until he eventually gets off the boards...

BMD15
Boston
Post #940
Tuesday July 9, 2019 6:24pm

Joined Oct 2015
Total Posts: 145
It's okay, his head may explode...

Bradley was named to the Gold Cup Best XI (along with Long & Pulisic).
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bjelks
Post #941
Tuesday July 9, 2019 8:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,203
Original post from camparkinson

Im not happy with the player selection for the overall roster, I'm not happy with the starting lineups and especially the subs made in the finals were insanely bad. But the team did show some progress and have a decent play style and showed some patterns of play. I just hope Greg sees that Bradley, Zardes and others aren't good enough. I hope he realizes Pulisic isn't a CAM and he needs to be wide, hopefully its Pomykal/Holmes getting some chances there.

MLSsoccer.com podcast did blast Greg for the terrible subs, blasted Zardes for not being good enough, blasted all three subs and were calling out Greg to be better with the in game changes where Martino clearly out coached him...

Bjelks why did a champions league player let a MLS player walk right by him and score the game winner? Dos Santos dominated the second half for Mexico and specifically Mckennie, capping it with that goal where McKennie and him were standing next to each other and one player ran and the other jogged...


Hmm I'm glad you asked, unfortunately it's the wrong question.
Why did the US manager create a system to run the lil brown boys into the ground to protect Bradley from having to cover any space or defend?
Then anything that breaks down in the midfield they get blamed for not protecting Bradley more or saving the team lol.

Tell me is there another 6 in the world that has less responsibility than Bradley.
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bjelks
Post #942
Tuesday July 9, 2019 8:34pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,203
Original post from Lilshmike

Hahaha guys, quit responding to bjelks. He's made a reputation on being a troll who makes wild baseless claims about players he does not watch or has admittedly never seen, consistently name calls and tells everyone who doesn't agree with him that they're blindly following USSF and MLS, has a horrible habit of making patently false claims about things that people have said or intentionally puts words in their mouths, and immediately shifts topics or changes his argument when its outrageously clear that what he is saying is wrong.

And thats before getting into his noted habit of making any point of criticism some issue about race.

It happens so often that it has become a joke on this site. He legitimately brings nothing to the table (other than comedy from his ridiculous, continuous, never ending nonsense).

Candidly, its probably worth our time to either ignore or mock/make fun of him until he eventually gets off the boards...


You're right bud. Ignore me and listen to you because you know it all. You know because Gregg told you and whatever he says is right because well his brother hired him. And our pool is not that good even though we keep repeating the same guys that have failed before. Yea you know how to follow and be happy with the status quo because it's the good ole boy way. It's probably better we just listen to you hope we continue to do the same stuff that caused us to fail to qualify.
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tjknowsall
Post #943
Tuesday July 9, 2019 9:21pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 434
bjelks i agree with a lot of what you say from a standpoint that 12-13 players on this roster are not international quality. Bradley imo is still international quality. maybe not a starter when 2022 comes around, but he put some balls on a dime that led to very good chances. Sure hes lost a step, and his step was never that fast but hes still got a little left in the tank

Now for the people who don't understand what bjelks is saying, between the nonsense and over the top responses is that we arent playing the players with high ceilings... period... @DB707 and @Kamphgruppe

When netherlands missed the world cup/Euros they went young, focused on developing players and giving them chances as early as 17 years old at centreback (de ligt)

We should be 100% focused on qualifying for 2022 and tryign to WIN 2026... So, whos going to play in 2026 when we host the kids that are between 16-22 years old.

Lets call up Reyna, lets call up three strikers, sargent soto and weah. lets throw some young defenders in there instead of playing mls vets or TIM ream ( whom I love)

lets call up dest, gloster, richards, epb, carter vickers. If you want to bring a couple vets in the midfield D williams and Bradley are the choices. 2 vets and the rest should be young guys...

I honestly would not have cared if we lost to Jamacia and played a youth team looking to the future but instead we played guys who if it wasn't for pulisic/mckennie/bradley we would have lost 4-0 to mexico... We are just doing the same old same old and expecting results....

starting XI we should have had was (assuming yedlin, adams, brooks couldn't play) will put them in () where they'd be and other () are back ups

Weah(ariolla) Sargent(Soto) Pulisic(Boyd)
Mckennie(Acosta) Pomykal(Dwill)
Bradley(Adams)
Dest (?Vickers... idk) Richards(EPB) Long(Brooks) Cannon(yedlin)
Steffen

If we came out with that lineup in the Gold Cup we bring players into the fold, and I still believe we get to the final. Would this not be better???? IF zardes, Roldan, etc are on the world cup team then we might not even make it and if we do we will be lucky to win agame... IF people can't see this then they're the same people that think you can do the same thing over and over again and get different results. Pulisic needs more talent around him and this would have clearly provided that with out going crazy.

camparkinson
Post #944
Tuesday July 9, 2019 9:26pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 312
Why are you talking about lil brown boys? I'm pretty sure Berhalter's system has nothing to do with lil brown boys...

Bradley is not good enough, he should be replaced and shouldn't be on future rosters. It's not because he plays in the MLS, it's because he's not good enough. Aaron Long and Reggie Cannon play in the MLS and both of those guys look quite good to me and should certainly see more time.

But even you can admit McKennie needs to do better there and that Dos Santos outplayed him the whole game.

Why can't you say McKennie had a bad game? Is it cause he isn't playing in MLS?

I like McKennie and want him to keep playing for USA but I can also call him out when it's not good enough. I just hope we get to see him with Adams in September, preferably with Pomykal or Holmes so Pulisic can move wide.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #945
Tuesday July 9, 2019 9:59pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 786
Original post from bjelks

Lol, how many trophies outside of CONCACAF has the USA men's program won at any level?

How many American managers have won a trophy abroad at the club level?

How many American men have been short listed for Ballon d'or?

How many Americans have played in a Champs League Final?

The pt is there is no evidence to believe USSF has any idea what they're doing

If you were against the hiring of Gregg, but support or do not publicly disagree with his decisions no matter that they are, isn't that being mindless?
In other words, you don't think he should have the job but you're going to support whatever he does just because he has the job. To me, that's spineless.

I've listened to Stu, Landon, Lalas, twellman. They're never critical of player selections or tactics. They're fucking cheerleaders. Either they're too lazy to do research or they're afraid to ruffle feathers. Either way, we have the softest soccer media in the world


You know as well as I do that it takes time to develop these things. We have not had an academy system in place very long. With our youth we have several player who have as good a chance to be these things as any other country. I am talking about U20 youth not some 5 year old. At least our teams are playing with heart again, we have not yet reached the talent level but at least we look like we care unlike what we look like under JK. I have watched the U20 and they play with heart and skill + our youth are beating Mexico and Euro teams on a regular basis. You just said last post that you didn't listen to those guys. . . If you really did you would realize that they do that all the time. I don't hire for US soccer why would I publicly criticize a coach selection without at least giving him a chance. So far he is doing better than I thought he would.

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