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hamsamwich
Post #331
Monday June 10, 2019 2:19am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,197
I know you're mad @stone88 but I counted at least five dangerous balls wasted by teammates out into the area by Tyler Boyd. The keep saved a few, Zardes and Arriola blew a few and the defenders cleared a few. I thought he was a bright spot.

Samtom23
Post #332
Monday June 10, 2019 2:39am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 104
It seems like GB cannot get it done. Really we should trounce Venezuala and Jamaica. That bullshit line-up against Jamaica was a head scratcher.

I reckon that we are stuck with GB since his bro is Chief Commercial Officer of the Federation. His roster selection leaves something to be desired. We should be doing a youth movement and we should be looking for players with heart and building for the future. I honestly don't see a grand plan and I don't see making the most of his opportunities.

I am actually hoping we got smashed this tournament. Turning up the criticism on GB and the USSF. They took an effing year to make the hire, it will probably take two to make a change. I might eat my words after the Gold Cup but it doesn't seem like it.

Duane Holmes seems to be the real deal. I'd rather have Sargeant than Boyd on this roster or Gyasi not on at all.

I currently feel Dave Sacharan was a better choice than GB. I felt some optimism. I feel like I am going to eat a shit sandwich with GB.

blaise213
Post #333
Monday June 10, 2019 7:32am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,983
Original post from stone88

Trap can't make a forward pass to save his damn life. I swear to god. If the kid had a gun to his head, with the closest defender 100 yrds away, he still couldn't make a 5 yrd forward pass. He can run and that is it!! Hell, sounds like venicebeachbull can run also. Maybe Berhalter should try him at CM.

Roldan. Dude disappears. Berhalter called him a #10 and a playmaker for this team. WHATT? How can you be the playmaker yet disappear for 90 mins. They should call him the MAGICAL DISAPPEARING ROLDAN.

Arriola, is a midget that HAS ZERO SKILL. All he does is put his head down and run in straight lines; with or without the ball it doesn't matter. Oh and the tap in he missed for a goal, he nearly launched out of the stadium, no f'n joke. HE SUCKS big time!!

And Zardes is such a mediocre footballer its like he's actually a long distance track or cross country runner who never really played the game. But within the last year or so, soccer coach Berhalter, has decided to recruit him and make it his sole mission to turn him into a soccer player. I'd put a million dollars on Usain Bolt being a better footballer than Gyasi Zardes.

Tim Ream? More like this team gets Reamed every time he suits up. Seriously mediocre player. Clearly isn't a leftback, and has proven time and time again he can't play centerback at this level w/o a major fuck up. SO WHY THE FUCK IS HE EVEN HERE?

Boyd looked half decent for his first capp, but my god if you are going to take the corner kicks for FUCK SAKE get it over the first defenders head and into the freaking box. I'm merely a former division 2 college player and I can do that almost every single time. YOUR A GODDAMN PROFESSIONAL!

Lastly. I have seen Weston McKennie dribble from box to box past the entire Bayern Munich squad. yet somehow, this group of players are so trash, they make Weston look like an average division 1 college player who is more concerned about signing up for next semesters classes and poking his girlfriend on summer break.


Lov ya bro ... on point like usual

Waiting to read 2tone's opinion

bjelks
Post #334
Monday June 10, 2019 10:01am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,330
Original post from cleancutimage

And those are some weak f'n names. So you see why we are so bad. Berhalter has no choice but to go for broke and play 95s and later. Cause we don't have a safety net from the 1989-1994 born guys. The youth movement must start now more than ever. I would rather play with unproven prospects than the old guard and these more experienced MLS players.


I'm sorry but there are much better players that he's intentionally leaving out because he wants to promote MLS and thats the biggest takeaway here, not anything about a lost generation or tactics.
He could've called Danny Williams, A Morales, Wooten, Novakovich, Sargent, EPB, CCV, Fab Johnson, Tim Chandler, Joe Sonora, Roman Gall, but he elected to make excuses about league, fitness, system, minutes. Greg is a good old boy piece of shit and is either blind or doesn't give a fuck about quality of his roster, as long as his gets to promote MLS.

He also built his core and depth around Bradley and Trapp who are not even good enough to be in the 23.
goalsense
db707
Post #335
Monday June 10, 2019 11:58am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,003
Original post from bjelks

I'm sorry but there are much better players that he's intentionally leaving out because he wants to promote MLS and thats the biggest takeaway here, not anything about a lost generation or tactics.
He could've called Danny Williams, A Morales, Wooten, Novakovich, Sargent, EPB, CCV, Fab Johnson, Tim Chandler, Joe Sonora, Roman Gall, but he elected to make excuses about league, fitness, system, minutes. Greg is a good old boy piece of shit and is either blind or doesn't give a fuck about quality of his roster, as long as his gets to promote MLS.

He also built his core and depth around Bradley and Trapp who are not even good enough to be in the 23.


With Williams and Chandler at least, fitness excuses are valid, they barely played at all this season due to injury. Maybe make individual arguments like he should have picked Morales over Bradley or Trapp, or Novakovich or Wooten over Zardes, or Sonora over Roldan, don't just take a bunch of names of guys and say they should have been called up based on nothing. We all wish those guys were "much better" but the reality is they're not, they're in some cases somewhat better, but maybe not when coming off season long injury problems.

Know Nothing
Post #336
Monday June 10, 2019 1:52pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,676
I was just watching the GB explanation on why Sargent wasn't on the team and his body language did not seem right.

In giving his explanation, he seems to squirm in his seat and does not keep eye contact with the reporter very long. He says he is behind two guys, but only extols the virtues of Altidore. In essence, he seemed like he was telling an uncomfortable lie.

This leads me to think that GB either needs to work on his pressers (which he probably does anyway), or there is outside influence on his selections.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #337
Monday June 10, 2019 7:03pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,417
Original post from blaise213

Lov ya bro ... on point like usual

Waiting to read 2tone's opinion


Program is poop right now. That's my opinion. And has been for a while now.

hamsamwich
Post #338
Monday June 10, 2019 7:33pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,197
Time to bench Trapp and put Adams at the 6 and give him the armband. Anything else is a cop out. Most coaches go to something new if what they are doing isn't working.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #339
Monday June 10, 2019 9:55pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,513
The miscues ruined the game, and it was clear some of these guys that should know the system well by now are not getting it done...Arriola and Zardes. Arriola especially is poor in the attacking third, so many wasted opportunities.

There are some positives, Boyd should get better and better...Lima held up well in a disjointed D...Trapp is playing himself right off the squad...no surprise there playing as a solo 6...dumb dumb dumb

We did generate some golden opportunities that were wasted.

It was a crap result, but they'll have time to get everyone on the same page prior to the first game... and the group isn't that hard to navigate. Hopefully we'll be playing our best ball at the knock out stage.

As far as GB, Let's see where we stand after the tourney. Some of his current favs are going to flat out struggle...I want to see how he deals with that.

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #340
Monday June 10, 2019 11:14pm

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 316
Original post from Kamphgruppe

It's post like this that make me scratch my head. Wooten scored 17 goals last year (2 less than Zardes). The first time he has hit double digits since 2011. I think he deserves the callup but why are you asking what zardes has done to deserve a callup? Zarders has done more than Wooten. Do we have a striker in our pool who scored more goals last year? Are you really going to say the forward who scored the most goals last year doesn't even deserve a callup. I wish we had better fowards but we don't. You for sure call the guy who scored the most goals.


Not sure whats head scratching about it. Zardes is not International quality. He has no touch. We have seen him many times for the Nats.

There is no 1 clear way to evaluate players, club form should not be the only criteria. Remember we had Wondo lead mls for many yrs but he was a dud on the Int stage.

MLS is also not a very strong league-granted some guys who play mls should be included on the NATs again hard to evaluate.

But can you see Zardes getting playing time overseas? How is he doing this yr? How have our MLS scoring leaders done on the INT stage?

Zardes has been given many Caps and call ups.

We have no idea of Wooten and beyond stupid not to bring Sergeant and some of the younger guys. And who knows Wooten may suck but we need to seem him to make that determination. We already know what we have with Bardes, a guy who runs, has a brick foot, and doesn't produce against quality Int opps. Lets see wooten and then compare the two

So yes what has Zardes done on the INT stage that has you defending his inclusion?
Stoked
stone88
Post #341
Tuesday June 11, 2019 1:29am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Original post from blaise213

Lov ya bro ... on point like usual

Waiting to read 2tone's opinion


Thanks bud.

stone88
Post #342
Tuesday June 11, 2019 1:34am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Original post from 2tone

Program is poop right now. That's my opinion. And has been for a while now.


Yep...not much else you can say about this lost generation.

stone88
Post #343
Tuesday June 11, 2019 1:47am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,516
Original post from Know Nothing

I was just watching the GB explanation on why Sargent wasn't on the team and his body language did not seem right.

In giving his explanation, he seems to squirm in his seat and does not keep eye contact with the reporter very long. He says he is behind two guys, but only extols the virtues of Altidore. In essence, he seemed like he was telling an uncomfortable lie.

This leads me to think that GB either needs to work on his pressers (which he probably does anyway), or there is outside influence on his selections.


I really don't care what GB now says about Sargent in retrospect. The fact is, the kid should have been included in atleast one of the squads. Mismanagement on the part of GB is why Sargent isn't playing any competitive games this summer, plain and simple. There isn't a single aspect of Zardes' game that is superior to 19 year old Josh Sargent. And if Soto can score 4 goals in the WC, Sargent could've put in 8.

cleancutimage
Post #344
Tuesday June 11, 2019 5:39am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,307
Original post from stone88

Yep...not much else you can say about this lost generation.


According to at least one poster, it is not a lost generation. It is solely roster selection. Even if GB picked all the players that we want that aren't on the roster(ie. wooten, williams, chandley, morales, sargent, gall, etc...) So what? Best case scenario, we win a watered down Gold Cup but are really that much closer to competing at World Cups with those guys? Remember on paper Chandler was our most talented RB but he lacked cohesion. Who is to say those other players won't or don't lack cohesion either? Remember FabJo is basically checked out from the program completely. So when the tough gets going can we really rely on guys like that?

So we can think theoretically all day about roster selections and who looks better at what position on paper but one thing that is a fact there were several years within our youth program that we didn't develop much talent to make sure the senior team had a smooth transition from generation, coach, etc...

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #345
Tuesday June 11, 2019 9:44am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,148
We truly need a new thread on the lost generation. Possibly for tomorrow but my biggest thing is this. We are absolutely in a talent drought. That isn't Berhalters fault. My biggest thing was the system can't work all the time especially when you have so little time to implement it. Also we just possibly might not have the guys.

Our best players haven't played. I pray we can find cohesion when Weston and Jozy are playing with Miazga, Bradley, CP and Adams. No Brooks and Yedlin hurt because then we're subjected to lesser players. No CCV stinks imo. Along with Sargent he's a big snub.

Not even trying out Novakovich sucks. We can't afford to not see what he's got especially the solid season he had at Fortuna Sittard.

All those other players however are a stretch.

Chandler- just came back from a legit lost season
Fabian- doesn't want to play for us anymore I think it's clear after Berhalter went to Gladbach and came up empty handed
Sonora/Gall- come on guys seriously
Williams- released by Huddersfield because he can't stay on the field he literally has been hurt nonstop for almost 2 seasons now
Wooten- 29 and I'd rather you'd just stay with Sargent/Novakovich

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