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2tone
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Post #136
Wednesday May 22, 2019 9:37pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from Know Nothing

Am confused about Holmes...has he been ruled out of the promotion playoff final?

Annapolis camp starts on the 26th through the 2nd...playoff final in the 28th. No real time for hiom to show anything.
I imagine he will be apart of the 26 man Gold Cup camp before its whittled down to 23 on June 5th.

This is my guess at the 26 man roster:

GK: Johnson, Horvath, Steffen
D: Cannon, Lima, Z-man, Miazga, Brooks, Long, Robinson, Lovitz
M: Adams, McKennie, Trapp, Bradley, Nagbe, Holmes, Lletget, Roldan
A: Pulisic, Boyd, Altidore, Zardes, Arriola, Sargent, Lewis

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #137
Saturday May 25, 2019 11:18am

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 291
What the provisional roster tells me is that GB is from the same US mold, once your picked you almost always will be picked.

What does wooten or Nova need to do get a call up. What have the following players done to merrit call ups:

Trapp
Lima-I like him but since most on this board call for consistent playing time consider this he was beat out and sat the bench for a while in MLS

Altidore-sure had a good start to the season but guess what, the old hamstring again-if we are calling him bring in Arjo

Zardes-I get it he is fast and try hard but wooten must be scratching his head

Arriola-he runs and defends however he can't cross the ball

Lewis-I like him -could be better than Nova but he didn't start for NY haven't followed his progress since being traded but the same reasoning as above why was he picked

Roldon-yikes

Trapp-??

Nagbe-I like nagbe but sadly the guy just seems lazy sad bc he is super talented and would fit GB style

The other two you could question would be Bradley and LLeteget

Then we have OG and Tim Ream-why?

Give Dave Saracen credit he brought in young guys.

Im sure we will do well in the tournament but again, if the WC is the goal we have done little with this roster to see if we could find a couple new players. We have a really good young core its just a shame the same old guard always gets called up.

Try out more Euro guys or mls guys who were not brought up in the youth system-If it is about club play there were certainly better options than what GB chose.
Stoked
db707
Post #138
Saturday May 25, 2019 11:32am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 959
Original post from stoked3

If it is about club play there were certainly better options than what GB chose.


I think it's abundantly clear it's not about club form for many of the call-ups. Which is a shame in my opinion.

hamsamwich
Post #139
Saturday May 25, 2019 6:51pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,143
I think this Gold Cup was and is going to be for people to play themselves off the team. Many have been deemed not good enough already by Berhalter.

I don't expect to win the Gold Cup either I expect Mexico to have an advantage. It would be a good surprise if USA wins but I don't necessarily see it. And furthermore I think it's going to take awhile to really get Berhalters system going full steam.

Samtom23
Post #140
Sunday May 26, 2019 12:37am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 46
I still think GB might be the wrong guy. I think a winning culture needs to be built. If indeed, this Gold Cup is for guys to play themselves off the roster. Then, why not just rip off the band aid? And competition should be encouraged. Lima lost his spot, why on the roster? And said it before, Sergeant and Weah need to continue to play together. I read that Weah looked lost at the U20s. It makes me think he really needed Sergeant. Conversely, will be interesting to see Sergeant without Weah, assuming Sergeant is on the GC roster.

I really hope Marlon Fossey is on the roster, considering lack of options at left back. I disagree with most of the forward selections. Jordan Morris, Jozy, all we have seen. We could've had the necessary growing pains. It is time to give opportunities to others. I disagree with Andrew Wooten, he is 28 in Bundesliga 2. I don't think we need a 32 year old striker in the next WC.

And Omar and Ream? Wasting time.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #141
Sunday May 26, 2019 4:52am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,404
I don't think young guys who aren't playing consistently on their first teams or producing less than guys who are should necessarily get the nod just because they are young. I also don't think weah looking lost at the U20s has anything to do with not having Sargeant - it's weird playing down a level, and there were many times where Weahs speed and eagerness hurt himself more than helped him vs Ukraine. Virtually isolated on breaks and 1v1s. While these U20s had good possession and are individually quite talented I thought their shape was poor, especially going forward together. Personally not a big fan of Ramos tactics, but whatever.

Ultimately GB is still totally unproven and I'm not sure why everyone has such a strong opinion about him already. We've never really been a good enough team to deserve a "winning culture", even with the pre world cup 2014 team. I'll reserve real judgement until post GC.

Samtom23
Post #142
Sunday May 26, 2019 9:07am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 46
I think it's ok to critic GB now. He seems to lack vision. He is a system coach and we are seeing it in his selection of players. Trapp and Zardes are here only because they know his system. But why not take the better players and coach them up?

The best coaches assert their vision on the team and encourage competition. Pep Guadialo put pressure on Sergio Arguerro with Gabriel Jesus. Bill Belicheck wouldn't play Tom Brady at tight end, like GB is playing TA as that hybrid. Pushing Yeldin forward? We all know that isn't Yedlin's skill set. We saw Germany leave Sane off their roster and it didn't work out. They went with the veterans. Apologies it jumps from different examples but hope you get the idea

And a good team doesn't deserve a winning culture. They make it. Klopp, Guardiola, Saban, Bellicheck, Jackson, Dabo Sweeney they made their culture. Saying we are not good enough? Your thinking is already wrong. I realised I mixed sports but the characteristics of winning are consistent in my opinion.

blaise213
Post #143
Sunday May 26, 2019 9:51am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,927
Original post from Fraser31

Ultimately GB is still totally unproven and I'm not sure why everyone has such a strong opinion about him already. We've never really been a good enough team to deserve a "winning culture", even with the pre world cup 2014 team. I'll reserve real judgement until post GC.


Because he's calling in an MLS Majority roster. Like I said before, it's like calling up the NBA D league players for team USA

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #144
Sunday May 26, 2019 3:54pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,404
I mean objectively we are not good enough, but yeah I get your point.

hamsamwich
Post #145
Sunday May 26, 2019 4:11pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,143
I wasn't a fan of the choice to begin with for the most part considering it was much too late.

Bringing Sargent was maybe the best thing Berhalter could have done. I still see no reason why if given a fair chance that he won't beat out Zardes and Jozy.

Any roster with Omar Gonzalez is on it is automatically worse. Having both him and Bradley on the field at the same time will be a liability and hopefully we don't see it.

I'd like to see a forward line of:
Amon - Sargent - Boyd
at some point in the run up to the Gold Cup.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #146
Wednesday May 29, 2019 12:48am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,357
I don't know about that. Sargent was clearly gassed with Werders first team and did not look in shape. I am weary of any young player until said player really proves himself with his club. Sargent hasn't done that yet.

blaise213
Post #147
Wednesday May 29, 2019 1:17am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,927
Soto over Arriola all day long.. I think I've been saying that for awhile

hamsamwich
Post #148
Wednesday May 29, 2019 3:33am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,143
Original post from 2tone

I don't know about that. Sargent was clearly gassed with Werders first team and did not look in shape. I am weary of any young player until said player really proves himself with his club. Sargent hasn't done that yet.
I can't dispute just as i didn't before that everyone has a different criteria to who should be called into the team.
However Berhalter has his own set of reasons for who should be called in. Many people don't like the idea of seeing Lewis or Lima or whoever that isn't starring in MLS either but Berhalter has and will call who he wants.
And of the players available, like I said I'd love to see Amon flanking Sargent with Boyd running in behind and central from the other wing.
It's great that Zardes plays for a now mediocre Crew side, or that Jozy may be healthy this time... but I'd rather see the dynamism that Sargent provides.
I don't agree he looked gassed and all that, just that he was the up and comer getting into a stacked forward squad (almost all of the 5 or 6 guys ahead of him on the wings and central forwards are arguably better than Zardes and Jozy). His coach and sporting director gave him a new four year contract and he needs to live up to it. But amongst his American peers he is acknowledged to be better.

Lilshmike
Post #149
Thursday May 30, 2019 3:09pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,178
Original post from hamsamwich

I can't dispute just as i didn't before that everyone has a different criteria to who should be called into the team.
However Berhalter has his own set of reasons for who should be called in. Many people don't like the idea of seeing Lewis or Lima or whoever that isn't starring in MLS either but Berhalter has and will call who he wants.
And of the players available, like I said I'd love to see Amon flanking Sargent with Boyd running in behind and central from the other wing.
It's great that Zardes plays for a now mediocre Crew side, or that Jozy may be healthy this time... but I'd rather see the dynamism that Sargent provides.
I don't agree he looked gassed and all that, just that he was the up and comer getting into a stacked forward squad (almost all of the 5 or 6 guys ahead of him on the wings and central forwards are arguably better than Zardes and Jozy). His coach and sporting director gave him a new four year contract and he needs to live up to it. But amongst his American peers he is acknowledged to be better.
False.

Find a credible source or person who has clearly stated that Sargent is the best forward in our pool (which is the claim you're making by that statement). Not some armchair analyst or random talking head - someone who actually knows what they are talking about (former player, coach, etc.).

Its acknowledged that Sargent is the future starter up top. Not that he is our best right now... that he is part of a group of players who in the not too distant future will be starters for our program. There is a difference.

hamsamwich
Post #150
Sunday June 2, 2019 1:44pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,143
As I said I'd like to see Amon - Sargent - Boyd thrown out there together.

I get it, Brian McBride (USA legend, Chicago area legend), Herculez Gomez (USMNT regular, Liga MX lifer) and Jozy Altidore (USA legend, most expensive USA striker ever)... their quotes on Sargent aren't enough.

Altidore isn't mobile enough anymore to pull off the GB system for a full 90. (I've always been a big fan of his and he can still score goals as a substitute)

Zardes is mobile but struggles to bring others into play. His brick foot is legendary. He's also been only so-so this year for the Crew.

Sargent on the other hand can do both.

So- you never answer this- @lilshmike: would Jozy or Zardes make a real impact for Werder Bremen playing out wide? (That was young sargents role this year)

*** I would start altidore if healthy for the bulk of the tournament. But I don't see him making it past 60'...

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