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Live490
Texas
Post #16
Tuesday January 16, 2018 4:21am

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About 3000+ fans showed up to his presentation lol.

Jzaval01
Post #17
Tuesday January 16, 2018 7:37am

Joined May 2013
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Improbable scenario but say he does well and scores buckets of goals, which isnt impossible while he might not physically have it he still has a hell of a soccer brain. So he does well then what?

National team player to lead the youngster movement even if just there as a locker room guy?
Again just imaginary world here. Considering hes been out of the game its very unlikely.

Live490
Texas
Post #18
Tuesday January 16, 2018 5:22pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,134
He would be an excellent leader. I would love for him to do great to rub it in Mexicans. Lol but then again they'll always have the world cup comeback and that hurts

navi8132
New York
Post #19
Tuesday January 16, 2018 5:57pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Landon Donovan would be the champion of being a cry baby and telling kids to only go to Europe if its super comfortable and to not make yourself uncomfortable by trying to place high standards on your career.

dolcem
Post #20
Sunday February 25, 2018 9:48am

Joined Nov 2012
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http://sbisoccer.com/2018/02/landon-donovan-w...

Landon says we need an American coach for the USNT because they "understand the American player better."

Tell me, how would Caleb Porter understand a Christian Pulisic better than a European coach? Did Porter ever go play in Europe, or did anyone that ever coached or played with him? Did he ever coach any players like Pulisic, or coach against them? Has he, or anyone he has coached, with gone up against the likes of Brazil or Germany?

I'd love an American manager too. But we haven't had any yet that reached the level that we should be looking for from our NT manager. We have the biggest economy in the world. We should be able to hire a top class manager.

Any foreigner after spending four years here will get to know the league and the system. Heck, after a few years here, Jurgen Klinsmann was better at identifying talent than the American scouts and coaches (Jordan Morris and Miguel Ibarra).

Gerardo Martino has learned our system in the past year and a half and is a million times better at coaching soccer than Caleb Porter. If the MLS had any idea of what was best for itself, they'd let him coach the USNT immediately.

We want players who have gone up against the best (played in Europe). So why isn't it the same for our coaches?

Arena is the best American coach of all time and he presided over the biggest debacle in US soccer history and before that, coached the team to a train wreck of a performance at the World Cup. When will we ever learn?
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yodaddy101
Post #21
Monday February 26, 2018 12:55am

Joined Aug 2013
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@dolcem what if we somehow got David Wagner to coach the USMNT?
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #22
Monday February 26, 2018 6:41pm

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Klinsmann is European and presided over the debacle as well. I want a qualified manager. I hope they do their due diligence. Interview: American, European, Asian, and South American coaches. Then make the decision.

Live490
Texas
Post #23
Monday February 26, 2018 8:06pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Kinsman started the debacle. And wow Jordan Morris torn ACL.

skangles
DC
Post #24
Tuesday February 27, 2018 12:21am

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Original post from Live490

Kinsman started the debacle. And wow Jordan Morris torn ACL.


Horrible, I hate to see players suffer such devastating injuries. I'm gutted for him.

yodaddy101
Post #25
Tuesday February 27, 2018 9:12am

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 157
um guys, david wagner anybody?
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Lilshmike
Post #26
Tuesday February 27, 2018 7:53pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from yodaddy101

um guys, david wagner anybody?

I like him, but not now. Needs more experience. Not only that, but he just got to the Prem. Its unlikely that he would even want to leave Huddersfield. If he left now, it would likely limit his potential to be a top-flight European manager in the future. He would be a good guy to consider, but for those reasons we probably couldn't get him.

2026 cycle tho, he could be a legitimate option.

dolcem
Post #27
Tuesday February 27, 2018 10:23pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Guys, don't be ridiculous.

If we gotten 4 points out of our first two matches, which would have been viewed as a big success, we still would have finished with our lowest point total in the history of the Hex ever. Arena had a year to turn things around and in the end he couldn't even get a result against Trinidad and Tobago. Klinsmann also presided over our best winning percentage in a cycle ever (despite having the hardest schedule), got us playing the best quality soccer we ever played (over a sustained period), and coached us to a phenomenal World Cup (getting out of the Group of Death with ease despite missing the spine of our team in Altidore and Bradley). Sure, there was the World Cup hangover, but we were good at the Copa America and he probably would've turned things around if given time (just like he did the previous cycle). He isn't a world class manager but he's definitely the best we ever had. Arena's two debacles take him down to a peg below.

Original post from yodaddy101

@dolcem what if we somehow got David Wagner to coach the USMNT?


Wagner would be a great hire but let's let him continue his career in Europe for a while longer. He's very early on in his career and we should let him ride it out a bit to see how he ends up before bringing him on to coach the USNT. He'll always be around.

Martino is definitely the best candidate. Brendan Rogers and Roger Martinez would be pretty good. I'm going to ignore the Guardiolas and Ancelottis of the world because they are nowhere near realistic (a lot of US fans seem to think that they are realistic hires though, which is...). Roger Martinez, for example, is not that great of a manager, but he's a million times better than Caleb Porter.

In the modern era (I'll exclude the 1990 World Cup), we've had two World Cups with foreign managers, which were both big successes. With American managers at the helm, we've had one great performance, one decent performance, and three massive failures. That great performance was 16 years ago and our player pool has simply advanced far past our managerial one (which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone because have how quickly the game has grown here). Just as we should use players playing in the top leagues in Europe, we should use managers that are coaching there as well. Why take an MLS guy over someone who is better? Just because he's American? The best American manager of all time presided over two colossal failures the last two times he was in charge. And the other one, Coach Bob, got a couple of great results but was always in way over his head. We've had enough of American managers for a while.
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