RECAPS
EXTRA TIME
YANKS ABROAD LOCKER ROOM
 
Live490
Texas
Post #16
Tuesday January 16, 2018 5:24am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,136
Keane's first touch was amazing.

Jzaval01
Post #17
Tuesday January 16, 2018 7:40am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Original post from chris_thebassplayer

Sargent is more pure forward...a finisher. I think they're cut out of the same cloth though.

He kind of reminds of Robbie Keane. Puli is more dribble centric than LD, but the rest of game is eerily similar to LD's...been saying that for years...he's practically his doppelgänger.

Still way, way, way early, but I think we're on the road to something special...something similar to the Keane/LD chemistry. Two players, one high IQ soccer brain...both quick, technical with lethal finishing ability...on the same page at all times.

I can't wait to see Puli underneath Sargent...creating for each other, interchanging...combo passing...real excited by the talent coming in and possibilities for the nats.

Theres real talent hopefully ready to blossom. I think even more as years pass. Europeans teams are constantly now in that state of looking for the next pulisic. Now its that kid from RSL to Bayern. Next is who?

Dave
Post #18
Wednesday January 17, 2018 3:00am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 912
Original post from Jzaval01

Theres real talent hopefully ready to blossom. I think even more as years pass. Europeans teams are constantly now in that state of looking for the next pulisic. Now its that kid from RSL to Bayern. Next is who?


Clubs have always been, and will continue, to look for Pulisic level US Talent. They have been searching for a major US Star for decades, with hit & miss results. The US is still basically an untapped talent pool/revenue stream. The issue hasn't been players getting opportunities in Europe, it's been that more often than not they haven't panned out.....John O'Brien, Landon Donovan, Jonathan Spector, Freddy Adu, Jozy Altidore, etc....

Yes, there is a nice number of Young US Players (under 22 yrs old) currently signed by big name clubs (Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Man City, Man United, Barca, etc...), but few if any of these players will stay with these big clubs. It's just the nature of the game. Of greater importance in my mind is seeing a higher % of these players being major contributors/stars at whatever 1st division club they end up at. That is the next step in our National Teams progression.

Would love to say that in 2022 we'll have a team comprised of 23 Pulisic like talents, but realistically we should be shooting for a 23 made up of players from top 4-5 leagues who are on mid-table clubs (or higher), and are in the Starting XI every week.

Till this is the case we'll remain an average national team.

oldguy
Post #19
Wednesday January 17, 2018 4:03pm

Joined Jan 2017
Total Posts: 14
Dave,

Would love to say that in 2022 we'll have a team comprised of 23 Pulisic like talents, but realistically we should be shooting for a 23 made up of players from top 4-5 leagues who are on mid-table clubs (or higher), and are in the Starting XI every week.

Till this is the case we'll remain an average national team

This is spot on.

kernn63
Post #20
Wednesday January 17, 2018 7:12pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
You know...I think we were pretty close to a starting 11 of all players playing in a top 5 league in 2010 and for some reason, we seemed to regress on the players challenging themselves overseas over the past 7 years....(no Pulisic clearly)

2010
Altidore (Villareal-ish)
Beasley (Rangers sure...not top 5 but was at Man City...Gers was a Champions League Club)
Boca (Rennes)
Bradley (Gladbach)
Cherundolo (Hannover)
Demerit (Watford....okay, not top tier England, but EPL at the time)
Donovan (LA, but no doubt a player of that caliber)
Edu (Rangers)
Holden (Bolton)
Gooch (AC Milan)
Spector (West Ham)
Howard (Everton)
Clint (Fulham)

______________

Clark (Think Eintract Franfurt was in the II at the time)
Both backup keepers in the EPL.

dolcem
Post #21
Wednesday January 17, 2018 8:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,790
Original post from kernn63

You know...I think we were pretty close to a starting 11 of all players playing in a top 5 league in 2010 and for some reason, we seemed to regress on the players challenging themselves overseas over the past 7 years....(no Pulisic clearly)

2010
Altidore (Villareal-ish)
Beasley (Rangers sure...not top 5 but was at Man City...Gers was a Champions League Club)
Boca (Rennes)
Bradley (Gladbach)
Cherundolo (Hannover)
Demerit (Watford....okay, not top tier England, but EPL at the time)
Donovan (LA, but no doubt a player of that caliber)
Edu (Rangers)
Holden (Bolton)
Gooch (AC Milan)
Spector (West Ham)
Howard (Everton)
Clint (Fulham)

______________

Clark (Think Eintract Franfurt was in the II at the time)
Both backup keepers in the EPL.


I think our national team in 2009 (would include Davies) was our most talented ever. Dempsey, Donovan, Bocanegra, Cherundolo, and Howard in their primes, with Altidore and Davies up top and a young Michael Bradley. Gooch was a beast too.

Speaking of Cherundolo...I was thinking the other day that he was actually the best field player in USNT history. When people talk about the best US field players, they always mention Reyna, Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, sometimes McBride and Ramos, but I never hear Cherdunolo. The Mayor of Hannover, however, was arguably better than all of them. A consistent Bundesliga player for over a decade, he was one of a small handful of US players that was ever made captain of his club team (abroad). And does anyone ever remember him having a bad game? I can remember countless bad games from Donovan, Dempsey, and Bradley. But Cherundolo bossed it pretty much every time, and people didn't really recognize it because he's a defender. My favorite Cherundolo memory is when he shut down James Milner in the World Cup so badly he got subbed out after about 30 minutes.
GET A CLUB TEAM
blaise213
Post #22
Wednesday January 17, 2018 9:15pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,684
Sargent broke off my boy Johannsson in practice for a goal

hamsamwich
Post #23
Monday September 3, 2018 4:52pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,743
He's been tearing it up for Bremen 2....

The coach wants him to train with the first team and maybe get minutes in the two club friendlies that Werder is playing during the break. I still think Sargent is our best player overall and a good showing now may get him first team minutes sooner rather than later.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #24
Tuesday September 4, 2018 10:03pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,398
I'm counting the minutes until Sargent is first choice up top...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #25
Wednesday September 5, 2018 12:48am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,800
I think it's going to be a battle between him and Novakovich eventually. Looking forward to watching both of them with their continued development.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #26
Friday October 19, 2018 9:07am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,005
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga...

hamsamwich
Post #27
Friday October 19, 2018 3:36pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,743
Thank you Germany and your work permit regulations. Our best young players can't make it to England but the Germans gladly accept any of our young kids. Sargent had benefitted from that and has pushed on. Here we go...

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #28
Monday October 22, 2018 11:35pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 653
Original post from hamsamwich

Thank you Germany and your work permit regulations. Our best young players can't make it to England but the Germans gladly accept any of our young kids. Sargent had benefitted from that and has pushed on. Here we go...


Yep, I say we send as many young players to Germany as they will take.

cudevil
Post #29
Tuesday October 30, 2018 1:59pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 692
It will be interesting to see if Sargent gets his first team debut in Bremen's cup game tomorrow...

hamsamwich
Post #30
Wednesday October 31, 2018 2:24pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,743
Original post from cudevil

It will be interesting to see if Sargent gets his first team debut in Bremen's cup game tomorrow...
Bremens coach Kohfeldt says that Sargent has to earn his minutes in a competition vs Max Kruse and Claudio Pizarro. Today he may get in there, and if he does I expect him to take his chance. Sargent, trying to earn his spot for one of the top German teams would be really impressive at his young age. Not many strikers his age and profile can force themselves into the lineup at a club in a top league doing so well (look at Weah and his non minutes played recently), but I think he can outperform Pizarro (the legend himself, old now) with his all action style, and the technical Max Kruse by showing the coach his dynamism. It's just one cup game but many an American has made a poor first impression abroad (confirming Euro bias against Americans)... I bet on Sargent to rise to the occasion and succeed where many others have not.

Page 2 of 3
« Previous 1 2 3  Next »

The final stretch of the English league season is upon us, with several Americans on the verge of relegation with their teams.
RECENT POSTS
Tale of Two Young Yanks in Europe
Wagner Nears Premier League Goal
YA lineup prediction vs. T&T
vom Steeg lands at Fortuna
THIS WEEK'S HEADLINES

RANDOM TAGS FROM PAST WEEK...
Brad Guzan, Christian Pulisic, Bobby Wood, England, United States