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Post #16
Tuesday January 16, 2018 5:24am

Joined Mar 2013
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Keane's first touch was amazing.

Jzaval01
Post #17
Tuesday January 16, 2018 7:40am

Joined May 2013
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Original post from chris_thebassplayer

Sargent is more pure forward...a finisher. I think they're cut out of the same cloth though.

He kind of reminds of Robbie Keane. Puli is more dribble centric than LD, but the rest of game is eerily similar to LD's...been saying that for years...he's practically his doppelgänger.

Still way, way, way early, but I think we're on the road to something special...something similar to the Keane/LD chemistry. Two players, one high IQ soccer brain...both quick, technical with lethal finishing ability...on the same page at all times.

I can't wait to see Puli underneath Sargent...creating for each other, interchanging...combo passing...real excited by the talent coming in and possibilities for the nats.

Theres real talent hopefully ready to blossom. I think even more as years pass. Europeans teams are constantly now in that state of looking for the next pulisic. Now its that kid from RSL to Bayern. Next is who?

Dave
Post #18
Wednesday January 17, 2018 3:00am

Joined Jul 2014
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Original post from Jzaval01

Theres real talent hopefully ready to blossom. I think even more as years pass. Europeans teams are constantly now in that state of looking for the next pulisic. Now its that kid from RSL to Bayern. Next is who?


Clubs have always been, and will continue, to look for Pulisic level US Talent. They have been searching for a major US Star for decades, with hit & miss results. The US is still basically an untapped talent pool/revenue stream. The issue hasn't been players getting opportunities in Europe, it's been that more often than not they haven't panned out.....John O'Brien, Landon Donovan, Jonathan Spector, Freddy Adu, Jozy Altidore, etc....

Yes, there is a nice number of Young US Players (under 22 yrs old) currently signed by big name clubs (Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Man City, Man United, Barca, etc...), but few if any of these players will stay with these big clubs. It's just the nature of the game. Of greater importance in my mind is seeing a higher % of these players being major contributors/stars at whatever 1st division club they end up at. That is the next step in our National Teams progression.

Would love to say that in 2022 we'll have a team comprised of 23 Pulisic like talents, but realistically we should be shooting for a 23 made up of players from top 4-5 leagues who are on mid-table clubs (or higher), and are in the Starting XI every week.

Till this is the case we'll remain an average national team.

oldguy
Post #19
Wednesday January 17, 2018 4:03pm

Joined Jan 2017
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Dave,

Would love to say that in 2022 we'll have a team comprised of 23 Pulisic like talents, but realistically we should be shooting for a 23 made up of players from top 4-5 leagues who are on mid-table clubs (or higher), and are in the Starting XI every week.

Till this is the case we'll remain an average national team

This is spot on.

kernn63
Post #20
Wednesday January 17, 2018 7:12pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
You know...I think we were pretty close to a starting 11 of all players playing in a top 5 league in 2010 and for some reason, we seemed to regress on the players challenging themselves overseas over the past 7 years....(no Pulisic clearly)

2010
Altidore (Villareal-ish)
Beasley (Rangers sure...not top 5 but was at Man City...Gers was a Champions League Club)
Boca (Rennes)
Bradley (Gladbach)
Cherundolo (Hannover)
Demerit (Watford....okay, not top tier England, but EPL at the time)
Donovan (LA, but no doubt a player of that caliber)
Edu (Rangers)
Holden (Bolton)
Gooch (AC Milan)
Spector (West Ham)
Howard (Everton)
Clint (Fulham)

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Clark (Think Eintract Franfurt was in the II at the time)
Both backup keepers in the EPL.

dolcem
Post #21
Wednesday January 17, 2018 8:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,786
Original post from kernn63

You know...I think we were pretty close to a starting 11 of all players playing in a top 5 league in 2010 and for some reason, we seemed to regress on the players challenging themselves overseas over the past 7 years....(no Pulisic clearly)

2010
Altidore (Villareal-ish)
Beasley (Rangers sure...not top 5 but was at Man City...Gers was a Champions League Club)
Boca (Rennes)
Bradley (Gladbach)
Cherundolo (Hannover)
Demerit (Watford....okay, not top tier England, but EPL at the time)
Donovan (LA, but no doubt a player of that caliber)
Edu (Rangers)
Holden (Bolton)
Gooch (AC Milan)
Spector (West Ham)
Howard (Everton)
Clint (Fulham)

______________

Clark (Think Eintract Franfurt was in the II at the time)
Both backup keepers in the EPL.


I think our national team in 2009 (would include Davies) was our most talented ever. Dempsey, Donovan, Bocanegra, Cherundolo, and Howard in their primes, with Altidore and Davies up top and a young Michael Bradley. Gooch was a beast too.

Speaking of Cherundolo...I was thinking the other day that he was actually the best field player in USNT history. When people talk about the best US field players, they always mention Reyna, Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, sometimes McBride and Ramos, but I never hear Cherdunolo. The Mayor of Hannover, however, was arguably better than all of them. A consistent Bundesliga player for over a decade, he was one of a small handful of US players that was ever made captain of his club team (abroad). And does anyone ever remember him having a bad game? I can remember countless bad games from Donovan, Dempsey, and Bradley. But Cherundolo bossed it pretty much every time, and people didn't really recognize it because he's a defender. My favorite Cherundolo memory is when he shut down James Milner in the World Cup so badly he got subbed out after about 30 minutes.
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blaise213
Post #22
Wednesday January 17, 2018 9:15pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,581
Sargent broke off my boy Johannsson in practice for a goal

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