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kernn63
Post #1
Tuesday November 7, 2017 7:15pm

Joined Feb 2013
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I'm all for Eric Wynalda. It's going to be a huge mountain for him to climb given that he's probably the most threatening to the status quo in MLS.

http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/story/323...

blaise213
Post #2
Tuesday November 7, 2017 7:30pm

Joined Sep 2012
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Steve Gans is the best option

kernn63
Post #3
Tuesday November 7, 2017 9:12pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 255
Original post from blaise213

Steve Gans is the best option


Why do you believe that?

blaise213
Post #4
Tuesday November 7, 2017 10:57pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,457
None of the former soccer players (Wynalda/Martino) know anything about running a business. Wynalda is already spewing about equal pay for the USWNT. They should get a bump but not equal. Thats like asking WNBA players to get paid like NBA players. Ticket revenues between the two are not equal.

Carlos Cordeiro is a bad choice. We need to scrap everyone up top. Did you know SUM UNITED (US Soccers marketing partner) actually makes more money annually than US Soccer. Why the hell would your marketing partner make more than your company?

US Soccer has a surplus of $150 million. You need a person with a business/soccer background to step in and take over. Gans is the only qualified candidate thus far.

Hopefully, we get to see what their blueprints are to move the federation forward.

kernn63
Post #5
Wednesday November 8, 2017 12:48am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 255
Gans seems very short on details. The only things of substance I've heard is

Use surplus to subsidize pay for play system
Anti pro-rel

Would rather get a soccer guy in there that's seen multiple levels in multiple systems.

Regarding women's pay, I️ don't think it's going to be a material difference at the end of the day. It's really not clear cut that the women are paid that much worse.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.c...

Chance2bad
Cincinnati, OH
Post #6
Thursday November 9, 2017 3:42pm

Joined Jun 2017
Total Posts: 38
As much as I'm against the idea of someone taking over who is already part of the system, Cordeiro's plan sounded the best to me, wants to increase the budget significantly, wants to hire a soccer person or general manager to make all the soccer decisions including hiring the next national team coach, at first I thought I'd be completely against him running but now I'm on the fence after hearing his plan, it sounds better than most

Rey Regicide
Post #7
Thursday November 9, 2017 3:50pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,965
Original post from blaise213

None of the former soccer players (Wynalda/Martino) know anything about running a business. Wynalda is already spewing about equal pay for the USWNT. They should get a bump but not equal. Thats like asking WNBA players to get paid like NBA players. Ticket revenues between the two are not equal.

Carlos Cordeiro is a bad choice. We need to scrap everyone up top. Did you know SUM UNITED (US Soccers marketing partner) actually makes more money annually than US Soccer. Why the hell would your marketing partner make more than your company?

US Soccer has a surplus of $150 million. You need a person with a business/soccer background to step in and take over. Gans is the only qualified candidate thus far.

Hopefully, we get to see what their blueprints are to move the federation forward.


USSF isn't supposed to be a company. It's a federation, the federations interest is in the intangible quantity and quality of soccer. Or at least it should be. So it's ok for MLS to be worried about making money, what IS worrisome is that USSF seems to be ONLY worried about SUM and their money making.

SamHays1999
Kansas
Post #8
Monday November 13, 2017 4:21am

Joined May 2017
Total Posts: 173
I have to agree with Blaise here. In my opinion, the the equal pay thing between USMNT/USWNT is a bit absurd due to the money that both bring in. USWNT is better in terms of results, that is fantastic, but I'm sorry, each group should make compared to what they bring in, and the men just bring in much, much more. Therefore, for that, I would like to see a businessman in some respect. So for that, it does seem like a plus for Gans and a minus for the others, including Wynalda who I was hoping would be my guy. Also, on Gans' stance on Pro/Rel, I've seen conflicting things, nothing official. I see people saying he's anti-Pro/Rel with nothing to back it up and the people saying he didn't say that also have nothing to back it up. I do agree on using the surplus to help fix the pay-to-play system, though, that is one problem that is nearly unanimous for agreement.

kernn63
Post #9
Monday November 13, 2017 7:19pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 255
This is an anti pro/rel stance, IMO. He's soft pedaling it so it doesn't come off as anti pro/rel.

Steve Gans, who has consulted for EPL clubs and networks, says the year-end interest in promotion and relegation is one of the things that makes soccer inherently great but it has other benefits, too.

"The passionate promotion-relegation people have made a really good point that has not been lost on me in the last four weeks since the U.S. got knocked," he said. "The player who plays week in and week out knowing he or she is playing for survival develops more of a cutting edge. That said, you can't divorce promotion-relegation from the reality of sports in this country."

He noted the "wasteland" that was pro soccer for outdoor players and fans in 1985-96 and doesn't want to return there. He cautioned that it remains a very complex issue and can't be imposed on MLS given the current economic structure.

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Regarding using the surplus to subsidize the pay for play system, it does nothing to solve the issue of creating more high level environments. We have kids who have all the advantages of being able to participate in the system even with the sxhorbitant costs associated with pay for play, yet still feel like they have to flee to Europe in order to get to fully realize their abilities (if you're lucky enough to have access to a passport).

kernn63
Post #10
Monday November 13, 2017 8:47pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 255
And there absolutely a viable economic path forward re: pro/rel. it's not happening tomorrow, but the transition should be put in place now.

http://www.espnfc.com/team/united-states/660/...


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