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Post #1
Friday October 13, 2017 4:54pm

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http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/story/322...

We all knew it would happen but it is official. Now to better days.

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Post #2
Friday October 13, 2017 4:57pm

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Sunil...you should be a man for the first time in your life and resign as well. Stop being selfish for once and resign for the better of your country.

db707
Post #3
Friday October 13, 2017 5:01pm

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I was hoping for Bradley standing down as captain first, but this was also necessary.

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Friday October 13, 2017 5:13pm

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Original post from db707

I was hoping for Bradley standing down as captain first, but this was also necessary.


For who though? Cameron? Pulisic? Pulisic may be young but he looked like the only player that deserved it on Tuesday.

Rey Regicide
Post #5
Friday October 13, 2017 5:14pm

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you know... how many international careers are going to be called?

anybody want to do an over/under for me.

db707
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Friday October 13, 2017 5:31pm

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Original post from cleancutimage

For who though? Cameron? Pulisic? Pulisic may be young but he looked like the only player that deserved it on Tuesday.


Cameron's a fine choice short term. Either Pulisic longer term or even Yedlin could handle it I feel.

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #7
Friday October 13, 2017 5:33pm

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the only thing I agree with Sunil on is we should not make knee jerk decisions.

1. We need to hope Sunil steps down soon so his replacement can start asap

2. his replacement needs time to figure out a master plan

3. For now, I would be totally cool with a Head Coach by committee: Have

Brad Friedal, Stu Holden, Twellman, take over for the next couple of friendlies

We need to really vet out our choice for next head coach. Whoever takes over in the interim may not be retain by Sunils replacement-

My fear, is if we get an MLS coach Ie vermes, or someone who is in the system i.e. Tab we will continue to see the: Bradley, Jozy, Wondo, Beasley types called in.

We need completely new ideas and young talent called in.

Geez guys we had wondo on the bench-Im sure Dwyer would have brought some bite to the game, we had Jozy walking-our captain was trotting all over the field to receive and give 2 yr passes, we had cameron sitting so Gonzo should start.

Ahh Im still pissed. Hope we clearly think through the next coach bc we do have young talent that if all called in and given the same chances the current guys were given would have a good chance at being very competitive come 22
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Chance2bad
Cincinnati, OH
Post #8
Friday October 13, 2017 5:42pm

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Here's a good article from SI about a plan going forward:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/11/us-socce...

Gulati isn't going to step down IMO, I believe if he decides he's done he'll announce he's not running for reelection. The above article has some really good ideas about hiring a soccer GM that makes the soccer decisions. It also brings up making the president job a paying one. I don't think you can realistically get a good USSF presidential candidate if they have to work a day job on top of it. USSF President should be a full time job just like commissioner of any of the major sports leagues are.

I'm very fearful Gulati won't throw in the towel though. He's an economics person and if you look at all he's accomplished financially with the USSF I think he'll see that as more of a success than he sees not making the world cup as a failure. Also the MLS and other entities have banked thanks to Gulati, they might want to keep him around because of that. I really hope I'm wrong but it does worry me.

goods
Post #9
Friday October 13, 2017 7:43pm

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Original post from db707

Cameron's a fine choice short term. Either Pulisic longer term or even Yedlin could handle it I feel.


Based on his fire I think it should be Pulisic. But we need an Argoos type that will punch you in the face for no energy performances. I think the captain will eventually be McKennie

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Post #10
Friday October 13, 2017 8:21pm

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Original post from goods

Based on his fire I think it should be Pulisic. But we need an Argoos type that will punch you in the face for no energy performances. I think the captain will eventually be McKennie


Tyler adams i think can be that. He is like a mini JJ with more discipline. I think there are alot of natural leaders coming up. Just look at how many of them are stepping up out of their comfort zone and step up in the spotlight.

Future leader imo

Josh Sargent
Tyler adams
Mckennie
Jona Gonzalez
Pulisic
Miazga
EPB

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Post #11
Friday October 13, 2017 8:23pm

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Man i wish we could get David Wagner. He's team are not world beaters but they fight hard and are fit as f***.

USAGunner
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Post #12
Friday October 13, 2017 9:09pm

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I think in the coming weeks/months you will see guys like Howard, Rimando, Beasley, Dempsey, Wondolowski, and Jones announce their retirement. Perhaps after the November Friendlies (where they can ostensibly get a send-off).

I think after the 2019 Gold Cup you are likely to see guys like Cameron, Guzan, Kljestan, Feilhaber, and Zusi announce retirements too.

The youngest of them will be 36 come 2022. They will likely try to lead this team through 2019 Gold Cup (some of them). Although some may retire earlier. But with little else to play for and no 2018 World Cup, most of them aren't going to be continuing to spend their Summers playing internationally.

I'm fine with ALL of them announcing their retirement right now with Arenas and just moving on to the younger guys. Even guys like Bradley and FabJo will likely retire soon rather than later. Bradley will be 35 almost 36 come WC2022.
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Jzaval01
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Friday October 13, 2017 11:31pm

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Original post from USAGunner

I think in the coming weeks/months you will see guys like Howard, Rimando, Beasley, Dempsey, Wondolowski, and Jones announce their retirement. Perhaps after the November Friendlies (where they can ostensibly get a send-off).

I think after the 2019 Gold Cup you are likely to see guys like Cameron, Guzan, Kljestan, Feilhaber, and Zusi announce retirements too.

The youngest of them will be 36 come 2022. They will likely try to lead this team through 2019 Gold Cup (some of them). Although some may retire earlier. But with little else to play for and no 2018 World Cup, most of them aren't going to be continuing to spend their Summers playing internationally.

I'm fine with ALL of them announcing their retirement right now with Arenas and just moving on to the younger guys. Even guys like Bradley and FabJo will likely retire soon rather than later. Bradley will be 35 almost 36 come WC2022.


Yep has to be younger.

We need to do what Venezuela is doing.

They essentally have started playing alot of their U20s in WCQ and not only looked good but got results away in Argentina and Paraguay. Obviously they were eliminated so they took that route. But im sure they had a few older player just to show the kids the ropes and help them transition. Now right now im pissed at all the veterans and want them to all retire but we should have 1 veteran for position (pick whoever you want per position). There should be U20s and U23 players from there.

Dave
Post #14
Saturday October 14, 2017 1:38am

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Original post from Jzaval01

Yep has to be younger.

We need to do what Venezuela is doing.

They essentally have started playing alot of their U20s in WCQ and not only looked good but got results away in Argentina and Paraguay. Obviously they were eliminated so they took that route. But im sure they had a few older player just to show the kids the ropes and help them transition. Now right now im pissed at all the veterans and want them to all retire but we should have 1 veteran for position (pick whoever you want per position). There should be U20s and U23 players from there.


Keep the following:
Defense: Yedlin & Brooks
Midfield: Pulisic & Acosta
Forward: Wood & Morris

Trash the rest.

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Post #15
Saturday October 14, 2017 1:50am

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I agree with pretty much everything everyone is saying. Seems like the fans have it figured out. The administration does not and that is why we ultimately failed.

I just hope with Arena being out that his favorites are out too. Even though I would love to see Dempsey get that record. I am playing Monday morning quarterback but Arena brought absolutely nothing to the table but his own ego and his added feelings about the MLS vs. Europe situation did not make the national team any better but it ultimately was one of the reason he failed. He did not pick the best players. He picked his favorite.

That said, I hope the next long term manager puts the MLS vs. Europe beef aside and plays the best and most in-form players at the moment without sacrificing the chemistry as well. He does not have a bare cupboard but he has to have a short memory and we have to move on to make sure this never happens again.

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