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2tone
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Post #121
Thursday June 28, 2018 8:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Well Earnie can't hire anyone until he takes over AUG 1. I would rather he does his due diligence picking the next coach. Sarachan was extended, but that contract goes away if someone is hired from what I understand. I think there are plenty of candidates. From Europe to South America and North America. Patience.

Lilshmike
Post #122
Thursday June 28, 2018 9:47pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 783
Yeah, scratch what I said. It looks like there may be a high possibility that the next guy is currently in MLS now and will see out the current season with their team.

My guess on guys who seem to be in the running:
  • Tata Martino
  • Gregg Berhalter
  • Jesse Marsch
  • Peter Vermes
  • Oscar Pareja
  • Remi Garde
Again, as I have stated multiple times on the boards, Tata is the man we should be going after. Hopefully that is the case. I wouldn't hate Berhalter or Marsch, but I think that Tata would be a much better option.

There is also the possibility that they are waiting to see how Sarachan does against Mexico, Italy, Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, and England, and then potentially giving him the job on a full-time basis if he doesn't blow it. I'd hate to see this though.

skangles
DC
Post #123
Tuesday July 3, 2018 12:23pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,379
Incredibly frustrating tweet about the incompetence of US Soccer from Tom Byer.

"Just to be clear, some facts. We worked with US Soccer to deliver a Pilot program between Jun-Dec. We delivered the model which was ready to be executed by Seattle Sounders & Washington State. US Soccer decided not to fund further citing they couldn't put metrics around it."

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #124
Tuesday July 3, 2018 2:43pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 998
Original post from skangles

Incredibly frustrating tweet about the incompetence of US Soccer from Tom Byer.

"Just to be clear, some facts. We worked with US Soccer to deliver a Pilot program between Jun-Dec. We delivered the model which was ready to be executed by Seattle Sounders & Washington State. US Soccer decided not to fund further citing they couldn't put metrics around it."


I understand from SUM standpoint, the math didn't add up from immediate marketing standpoint as you cannot monetize 2-6 year olds who are trained by parents to kick around in the house, however, what SUM has missed is the marketing of products to little kids.

I personally bought Tom's book and followed some of his teaching with my 4 year old, in less than a year since I started, my son now can kick with left and right foot (stop the ball with both right and left foot when kick to him, run with the futsal ball at his feet without looking at the ball. I have few futsal balls littered among his toys...

oh, btw, I do ping Tom frequently and do thank him...

tylercocinas
Post #125
Thursday July 5, 2018 12:02am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,136
Saw a report saying Juan Carlos Osorio has a verbal agreement to become USMNT coach, only way he wouldn't be is if Colombia is interested in hiring him.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #126
Thursday July 5, 2018 1:20am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,744
Whatever if it's Osorio then it's Osorio.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #127
Tuesday July 31, 2018 7:34am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,744
I am getting a bit frustrated with the lack of movement on the decision for a new head coach. The only name really being mentioned is Osorio. And it seems more likely he becomes the new Colombia coach.

The USSF has had more than enough time about this decision. I was really hopeful a new coach would have been announced before these up coming friendlies.

munns5986
Post #128
Tuesday July 31, 2018 3:09pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 272
I am pretty sure they said the GM wouldn't start having discussions or anything until he was on the job. Everything I read made me think something wasn't going to happen until like October but could be wrong.

Know Nothing
Post #129
Monday August 20, 2018 3:20pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,408
Add another name to the list...David Moyes

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/08/19/repor...

If he can get the players attention he is a good motivator (did well with undermanned Everton sides), but not very attractive soccer. I wouldn't mind him managing a club team I support, I just don't think he is the right fit for the type of players we have coming through.

Lilshmike
Post #130
Monday August 20, 2018 3:33pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 783
Original post from Know Nothing

Add another name to the list...David Moyes

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/08/19/repor...

If he can get the players attention he is a good motivator (did well with undermanned Everton sides), but not very attractive soccer. I wouldn't mind him managing a club team I support, I just don't think he is the right fit for the type of players we have coming through.
I would take this with a grain of salt. Highly doubt he is going to be the next guy. Apparently this entire "rumor" started by people from his camp stating that he would be open to the position, not that we were actively talking to him or anything of that sort.

He is out of work and his people are likely trying to get his name out there to help him find a new gig, using our open position as marketing leverage to start discussion/make him seem more desirable with potential suitors.

Lilshmike
Post #131
Monday August 20, 2018 3:55pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 783
Food for thought:

If we wanted to have a manager, we would have had our manager by now. I find it highly unlikely that they have not yet "found the right guy" or are whittling down a "list of possible managers" for this long. Sarachan was supposed to be out in January. That got extended to June... then again to December. Is Sarachan going to be the next guy? The more I think about it, the more it seems doubtful. If so, he would have been given the job on a permanent basis already.

The original delay (pushing Sarachan to June) made sense as it timed up with the WC. But moving it to December points strongly towards USSF looking at a guy who will be available at that time. That points to MLS. As I have been stating since February, Tata is the guy we should go after. But of all the MLS managers other than Tata, and given that the US Soccer community wants to have an American manager, one name stands out.

Gregg Berhalter

Of the American managers, he stands out (David Wagner aside) as one of the most qualified for the position. Funny thing too... few people realize that his brother, Jay, is one of the people who runs USSF. Hes their COO. Hiring Gregg could be seen as a conflict of interest, inside/unfair hire and USSF could catch a lot of negative press, etc. as a result.

Maybe I'm just speculating on a conspiracy theory here... but it could be possible that they are going for Berhalter, but waiting til the end of the MLS season and drawing out the coaching "search" as long as possible to make it seem as though there were no "qualified" international managers available, our open position was undesirable, and that he was the best option available. A sort of "we took what we could get" approach, in order to minimize the backlash that would occur if he was outright hired (essentially by his brother)... assuming that US soccer media and journalists did a bit of research and actually knew what they were talking about...

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #132
Monday August 20, 2018 4:03pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 998
Original post from Lilshmike

Food for thought:

If we wanted to have a manager, we would have had our manager by now. I find it highly unlikely that they have not yet "found the right guy" or are whittling down a "list of possible managers" for this long. Sarachan was supposed to be out in January. That got extended to June... then again to December. Is Sarachan going to be the next guy? The more I think about it, the more it seems doubtful. If so, he would have been given the job on a permanent basis already.

The original delay (pushing Sarachan to June) made sense as it timed up with the WC. But moving it to December points strongly towards USSF looking at a guy who will be available at that time. That points to MLS. As I have been stating since February, Tata is the guy we should go after. But of all the MLS managers other than Tata, and given that the US Soccer community wants to have an American manager, one name stands out.

Gregg Berhalter

Of the American managers, he stands out (David Wagner aside) as one of the most qualified for the position. Funny thing too... few people realize that his brother, Jay, is one of the people who runs USSF. Hes their COO. Hiring Gregg could be seen as a conflict of interest, inside/unfair hire and USSF could catch a lot of negative press, etc. as a result.

Maybe I'm just speculating on a conspiracy theory here... but it could be possible that they are going for Berhalter, but waiting til the end of the MLS season and drawing out the coaching "search" as long as possible to make it seem as though there were no "qualified" international managers available, our open position was undesirable, and that he was the best option available. A sort of "we took what we could get" approach, in order to minimize the backlash that would occur if he was outright hired (essentially by his brother)... assuming that US soccer media and journalists did a bit of research and actually knew what they were talking about...


LOL Negative Press? What are you smoking?

Lilshmike
Post #133
Monday August 20, 2018 4:52pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 783
Original post from dfw_fan

LOL Negative Press? What are you smoking?
It's self explanatory...

Jay Berhalter - executive in USSF, US Soccer's Chief Operating Officer.

Gregg Berhalter - Jay's brother.

If Gregg got the position, a responsible journalist/media personality would ask the question of conflicting interests. If Jay had a hand in just giving the job to his brother. That would inevitably lead to negative press, especially if the hire was made quickly.

If you draw out the hiring process though, and make it seem as though Gregg is the best option we can get because our open position is undesirable, you can minimize that negative press/potential ethical questions at a time when USSF is attempting to improve its image and "transparency". Again, this may be a mere conspiracy theory, but when you think about it, it does make some sense.

Lilshmike
Post #134
Monday August 20, 2018 5:03pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 783
Let's be honest here, our position is a pretty good spot for a manager in the international game.
  • You have a young group of promising players who you will be able to create a system with from the ground up
  • You're in a region where WC qualification should be a virtual guarantee
  • You'll get paid much more than most any other managerial position around the world
  • If you get to the WC and manage to get the US out of the group stage and to the knockout round then you'll seem like excellent manager to other countries around the world
As long as you qualify for the WC, there is huge upside with little downside (except for maybe bombing the group stage at the WC, which may hurt potential future jobs). For a lot of guys, it would be a good stepping-stone position before trying to go on to bigger and better things, or a nice project for an established manager who wants a bit of a challenge and wants to get paid.

As stated, if we wanted our man we would have had our man by now. Its becoming increasingly likely that they know who they want but are just waiting for the "right time". The "right time" seems to overlap with the end of the MLS season. As I will continue to say, Tata is who we should get. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Berhalter. As I have also stated, I wouldn't hate Berhalter, but the question of Jay's possible role in his potential hire cannot be overlooked.

blaise213
Post #135
Monday August 20, 2018 7:06pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,644
Yahoo is reporting David Moyes is the frontrunner. I'd be down for that

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