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Live490
Texas
Post #241
Monday December 3, 2018 2:14am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,138
Not only the trapp issue.. but what about Zardes? He was the best American Fwd in the MLS, and going by merit.. he deserves to be called. And will be cause Berhalter had him at Columbus.

db707
Post #242
Monday December 3, 2018 2:18am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 723
Original post from dolcem
We've had a whole wasted year and now he will have very little opportunity to prepare for the Gold Cup (we won't have most of our starters for Camp Cupcake), our most important tournament until Qatar in 2022.


This is spot on. Next year's Gold Cup is our only tournament of any value before Qatar really, and we are giving Berhalter just a Camp Cupcake and a March friendly window to look at players and implement his system before it. And it was entirely avoidable.

Know Nothing
Post #243
Monday December 3, 2018 3:47am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,476
Original post from db707

This is spot on. Next year's Gold Cup is our only tournament of any value before Qatar really, and we are giving Berhalter just a Camp Cupcake and a March friendly window to look at players and implement his system before it. And it was entirely avoidable.


What if that was the plan all along? I think everyone knew who we wanted as a coach, they just want a scenario where he does not take the entire blame for a Gold Cup disaster.

Given the short time span he will have to work with he will undoubtedly trust players he has seen or who have already performed well for the USMNT. Who knows if secretly he has been working with the USSF to select the squad. If it goes all wrong then they can use Sarachan as a scapegoat and if it goes right well Berhalter is a genius.

I would argue Olympic qualifying is equally as valuable.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #244
Monday December 3, 2018 4:56am

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 864
^^^ that's my bad. I took the year off. Like the USMNT
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #245
Monday December 3, 2018 7:25am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,415
RE:Zardes

Berhalter transformed him into a much better player. His runs and awareness are far better than before. He's a positive influence for C-Bus...whereas before he looked completely lost and disjointed. If Berhalter can basically remake Zardes, he might be able to make it click with a few others......get them to a higher level of understanding...basically just getting everyone on the same page. C-Bus played real ball on a fairly small budget. He seems to have a knack for getting more with less...

I'm not losing any sleep over "the lost year" Who knows what was going on behind the scenes. For all we know the USSF allowed him to finish out the season... could have been part of the negotiations...we were still miles from the WC...

I think Berhalter already has a good idea how he wants to put the team together. his right hand man, Wolf was with the nats recently. I also wouldn't be surprised at all if he Brought in Dolo as an assistant coach. I'd bring him in just to get Yedlin's head screwed on straight...he'd be a great tutor for Cannon and hopefully Lima. I think both those guys would flourish under Berhalter.

hamsamwich
Post #246
Monday December 3, 2018 1:49pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,768
It's not like Berhalter was coaching Atlanta or the Galaxy will all their millions to spend- he has been successful with the Crew. Working on a tight budget with limited player resources. How can it be a bad thing that he made Trapp and Zardes better?? That's the guys the Crew could afford and Berhalter made them better. They are not automatic call ups anymore than anyone else is. Yes- I'd agree that SUM and the MLS people make sure there are a fair amount of MLS players on the roster. But- Berhalter has the final say on who plays and who doesn't. Previously (last cycle, beginning of this one)- it was arguable that the best MLS players were better than the foreign guys (Bradley>Trapp; Jozy>Wood, Nagbe, Klestjan> their foreign counterparts)... nowadays it's getting harder to make an argument in favor of the MLS guys. Especially with Adams moving abroad.

The USSF has done all the can to screw up this process. We would've been excited a year ago with this hire, now it all seems like a big waste of time. In a way, Berhalter has been put on show today but since we've all known he would be coach it's a non-event. Whoever is doing strategy and marketing of the USA program needs to figure some things out, the natives are getting restless. The fans will have no patience after this whole waste of time and Berhalter now has no margin for error. And none of that was Berhalter's fault. Dummies up top did this.

USAfan67
Los Angeles
Post #247
Monday December 3, 2018 3:57pm

Joined Sep 2015
Total Posts: 14
BASE QUALIFICATIONS

1) U.S. Soccer "Pro" or UEFA "A" Coaching License
2) Professional experience as a head coach with a top flight club or senior national team.
3) Excellent Communication Skills
4) Ability to build cohesive support team
5) Organization schedule with attention to physical periodization
6) Understanding of and experience using data analytics
7) Proven track record handling all aspects of team oversight
8) Open minded and innovative
9) Calm and confident sideline behavior
10) Known for implementing a recognizable playing style

ADDED VALUE QUALIFICATIONS

1) Knowledge of American soccer landscape and good understanding of the player pool
2) Experience as a head coach in different environments
3) Ability to speak multiple languages
4) Understanding CONCACAF and FIFA
5) Has worked with multiple staff members and can manage/delegated accordingly
6) Extensive experience in tournament formats as a player and/or head

HAHAHAHA this so funny, All the qualification were made to hire Berhalter. I f*#@ing tired of this BullS*&t of the USSF. But hey I just have to give the benefit of the doubt to Belhalter and wish him well and hope he can bring this USNMT back to where is supposed to be, and thats on top of the CONCACAF. Cause he is supposed to with all that qualifications.
USAfan67
USAfan67
Los Angeles
Post #248
Monday December 3, 2018 4:03pm

Joined Sep 2015
Total Posts: 14
So will be expecting to see more of Zardes and Will Trapp., Zack & maybe more from the columbus Crew players in the USNMT and of course Michael Bradley and Altidore back to US Team. No wonder Will Trapp was call in all the friendlies to be the Captain of the USNMT. hahaha what a joke. wait for all this time to name him coach and all the sign was pointing at him.
USAfan67
cudevil
Post #249
Monday December 3, 2018 5:49pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 705
The alleged "needs to be proficient in English" qualification is really annoying. There are plenty of high level club teams and decent national team set ups that have worked around language barriers. There is no way we couldn't have made it work for the Nats.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #250
Monday December 3, 2018 7:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,840
Original post from hamsamwich

It's not like Berhalter was coaching Atlanta or the Galaxy will all their millions to spend- he has been successful with the Crew. Working on a tight budget with limited player resources. How can it be a bad thing that he made Trapp and Zardes better?? That's the guys the Crew could afford and Berhalter made them better. They are not automatic call ups anymore than anyone else is. Yes- I'd agree that SUM and the MLS people make sure there are a fair amount of MLS players on the roster. But- Berhalter has the final say on who plays and who doesn't. Previously (last cycle, beginning of this one)- it was arguable that the best MLS players were better than the foreign guys (Bradley>Trapp; Jozy>Wood, Nagbe, Klestjan> their foreign counterparts)... nowadays it's getting harder to make an argument in favor of the MLS guys. Especially with Adams moving abroad.

The USSF has done all the can to screw up this process. We would've been excited a year ago with this hire, now it all seems like a big waste of time. In a way, Berhalter has been put on show today but since we've all known he would be coach it's a non-event. Whoever is doing strategy and marketing of the USA program needs to figure some things out, the natives are getting restless. The fans will have no patience after this whole waste of time and Berhalter now has no margin for error. And none of that was Berhalter's fault. Dummies up top did this.


I agree. He also said he should have handled the Romain Gall situation better in Columbus. He thinks Gall is highly talented.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #251
Monday December 3, 2018 7:34pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,415
The GC is nice, but it isn't a huge priority. Imo, it isn't , OMG he won't have enough time to crush the GC...It's still about ramping up and doing well in the qualies and building towards the WC....tons of time...Although, I do think he'll do well even with relatively short prep for the GC.

RE: the job qualifications...yeah, they basically wrote a sole source job spec...haha.

db707
Post #252
Monday December 3, 2018 7:45pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 723
Original post from chris_thebassplayer

The GC is nice, but it isn't a huge priority. Imo, it isn't , OMG he won't have enough time to crush the GC...It's still about ramping up and doing well in the qualies and building towards the WC....tons of time...Although, I do think he'll do well even with relatively short prep for the GC.

RE: the job qualifications...yeah, they basically wrote a sole source job spec...haha.


Completely disagree about the Gold Cup. If it were the year before the World Cup cash grab tournament I would agree, but next year is the tournament with everyone's full sides, and we not only haven't won it since 2007, we kind of got embarrassed in the last two (capitulation against Mexico in 2011 that cost Bradley his job, then finishing 4th and losing to Jamaica at home in 2015). Winning next year should be a priority.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #253
Monday December 3, 2018 8:38pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,415
Just me, but it isn't deal breaker for Berhalter or the program. Everyone is frustrated and wants to see us turn it around quickly. If we play better ball with everyone on the same page, with an old school US fighting spirit through out the team... giving the better teams, Mexico and CR hard fought close games...and hopefully winning...We're moving in the right direction. Winning or the losing the GC shouldn't define us as a success or failure right now... way too early.

Everyone has a different level of frustration with the nats, especially now, I obviously would like to see us improve our play and win games, but the WC is the real deal and everything else is just on the road to the WC.

Lilshmike
Post #254
Monday December 3, 2018 9:23pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 870
Winning the GC is actually fairly important this year. If we win, then we go to the Confederations Cup, which is considered to be a major tournament. If we lose, then we go to a playoff with the winner of this year's GC. I'd rather take care of business now than leave it up to a one game play-off (against Mexico more than likely) down the road.

Olympic qualifying should be a major priority.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #255
Monday December 3, 2018 9:45pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,415
it will be whatever makes the most money...which will be a playoff between USA and Mexico to go to the confederation cup...completely cynical, but with FIFA/Concacrap follow the money.

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