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Ten-Towns
Ten-Towns
Post #422
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:14am
A 19 year old kid had more heart then seasoned vets. The team should be built around Pulisic who should be th captain. Kid never gave up and had two goals and an assist in two games. Clearly the best player technically and more heart. Find more players like Pulisic now!
snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #423
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:16am
Original post from dunlopp9987
I was way more distraught when we lost to Ghana in 2010. This is a good thing. Because guess what? If we had qualified tonight, not a damn thing changes. We stay on this course until next summer, and I think even if we lost all 3 matches, we would still stay the course.
This absolute failure is *hopefully* the best thing to ever happen to the USSF and the USMNT. But...that's only if we make wholesale changes. If we do some cosmetic changes and put on a band-aid or two, this will have all been for naught.
Time to pull a Germany. And guess who was there for that German revolution? I ain't sayin, I'm just sayin.
I was way more distraught when we lost to Ghana in 2010. This is a good thing. Because guess what? If we had qualified tonight, not a damn thing changes. We stay on this course until next summer, and I think even if we lost all 3 matches, we would still stay the course.
This absolute failure is *hopefully* the best thing to ever happen to the USSF and the USMNT. But...that's only if we make wholesale changes. If we do some cosmetic changes and put on a band-aid or two, this will have all been for naught.
Time to pull a Germany. And guess who was there for that German revolution? I ain't sayin, I'm just sayin.
Excellent take dunlopp. I'm buying what you're selling tonight
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
stone88
Post #424
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:19am
Gulati and Bruce out NOW!! Turn the USMNT into a u-21 squad, bring in all youngsters, the old guard are dead!
2tone
Ten-Towns
Ten-Towns
Post #425
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:19am
I agree Dunlopp
dfw_fan
DfW
DfW
Post #426
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:21am
I am just sad that Pulisic wont be in the WC.
Bradley - Out
Jozy - Out
Villafana - Out
FJ will be aged out
Chandler Aged out.
Get players who are hungry, even if they are in Level 2 leagues in Europe/Mexico and MLS ofcourse.
Bradley - Out
Jozy - Out
Villafana - Out
FJ will be aged out
Chandler Aged out.
Get players who are hungry, even if they are in Level 2 leagues in Europe/Mexico and MLS ofcourse.
dfw_fan
DfW
DfW
Post #427
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:22am
Original post from dunlopp9987
I was way more distraught when we lost to Ghana in 2010. This is a good thing. Because guess what? If we had qualified tonight, not a damn thing changes. We stay on this course until next summer, and I think even if we lost all 3 matches, we would still stay the course.
This absolute failure is *hopefully* the best thing to ever happen to the USSF and the USMNT. But...that's only if we make wholesale changes. If we do some cosmetic changes and put on a band-aid or two, this will have all been for naught.
Time to pull a Germany. And guess who was there for that German revolution? I ain't sayin, I'm just sayin.
I was way more distraught when we lost to Ghana in 2010. This is a good thing. Because guess what? If we had qualified tonight, not a damn thing changes. We stay on this course until next summer, and I think even if we lost all 3 matches, we would still stay the course.
This absolute failure is *hopefully* the best thing to ever happen to the USSF and the USMNT. But...that's only if we make wholesale changes. If we do some cosmetic changes and put on a band-aid or two, this will have all been for naught.
Time to pull a Germany. And guess who was there for that German revolution? I ain't sayin, I'm just sayin.
Still may not change anything. Did you see how Bruce was sucking upto MLS in the conference?
skangles
DC
DC
Post #428
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:23am
What do you want to see in the near term? As a good will gesture I want to see two friendlies in November under an interim manager with the sole purpose of getting some of the youngsters first team reps. That won't win over any casual fans but it would mean something to me.
skangles
DC
DC
Post #429
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:29am
From Sebastian Salazar:
"If you don't look at yourself after this, individually, I think you're pretty f****d up in the head." - Jozy Altidore.
"If you don't look at yourself after this, individually, I think you're pretty f****d up in the head." - Jozy Altidore.
stone88
Post #430
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:34am
No more Dempsey. No more Bradley. No more Fabian. No chandler. No more cameron. No more Gonzalez or Besler. Arriola is and always will be mediocre, no more him. no more zusi.No more Tim Ream. No more altidore. No more Wondo. No more bobby wood unless he starts banging in goals for Hamburg. No more Howard or Guzan. I literally don't want to see a single player with more than 40 or 50 caps and/or 24 or 25 y/o or older.
Sunil out! Replace him with Klinsmann.
Bruce out! Replace him with Tata Martino, if he'll have us.
Sunil out! Replace him with Klinsmann.
Bruce out! Replace him with Tata Martino, if he'll have us.
Jzaval01
Post #431
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:34am
Original post from 2tone
A 19 year old kid had more heart then seasoned vets. The team should be built around Pulisic who should be th captain. Kid never gave up and had two goals and an assist in two games. Clearly the best player technically and more heart. Find more players like Pulisic now!
A 19 year old kid had more heart then seasoned vets. The team should be built around Pulisic who should be th captain. Kid never gave up and had two goals and an assist in two games. Clearly the best player technically and more heart. Find more players like Pulisic now!
Weston Mckennie, Jonathan Gonzalez, Tyler Adams, Josh Sargent. We can start with them.
Fearless kids taking chances already starting for 1st team in first division. except Josh Sargent who according to him will be with first team next season. But that the kind of fearlessness we need.
Im tired of this group this just broke the camals back. Like Lalas said a bunch of overpaid millionairs.
Dave
Post #432
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:37am
Original post from skangles
What do you want to see in the near term? As a good will gesture I want to see two friendlies in November under an interim manager with the sole purpose of getting some of the youngsters first team reps. That won't win over any casual fans but it would mean something to me.
What do you want to see in the near term? As a good will gesture I want to see two friendlies in November under an interim manager with the sole purpose of getting some of the youngsters first team reps. That won't win over any casual fans but it would mean something to me.
Agree. 3 things need to happen:
1) Gulati to resign.
2) Assign an interim coach
3) November Friendlies....Basically make it squad of 24 and under players:
Wood, Morris, Sargent, Wright
Pulisic, Gooch, J. Gonzalez, McKennnie, Green, Saief
Brooks, Miazga, CCV, EPB, Glad, Yedlin, a LB (ANYONE),
Horvath, Gonzalez, Steffen
This defeat, and missing out on the WC is going to have ripple effects that will hurt the sport for years to come. Lost $$, Lower Attendance (USMNT & MLS), Lower TV ratings, etc....
Jzaval01
Post #433
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:38am
Original post from stone88
No more Dempsey. No more Bradley. No more Fabian. No chandler. No more cameron. No more Gonzalez or Besler. Arriola is and always will be mediocre, no more him. no more zusi.No more Tim Ream. No more altidore. No more Wondo. No more bobby wood unless he starts banging in goals for Hamburg. No more Howard or Guzan. I literally don't want to see a single player with more than 40 or 50 caps and/or 24 or 25 y/o or older.
Sunil out! Replace him with Klinsmann. Bruce out! Replace him with Tata Martino, if he'll have us.
No more Dempsey. No more Bradley. No more Fabian. No chandler. No more cameron. No more Gonzalez or Besler. Arriola is and always will be mediocre, no more him. no more zusi.No more Tim Ream. No more altidore. No more Wondo. No more bobby wood unless he starts banging in goals for Hamburg. No more Howard or Guzan. I literally don't want to see a single player with more than 40 or 50 caps and/or 24 or 25 y/o or older.
Sunil out! Replace him with Klinsmann.
Bruce out! Replace him with Tata Martino, if he'll have us.Arriola is 22...
Anyways. I keep wood and arriola but thats just me i guess.
stone88
Post #434
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:42am
Arriola is like a less talented Ale Bedoya. No thanks.
chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
San Jose
Post #435
Wednesday October 11, 2017 4:43am
I'm still dumbfounded by the lack of effort by a good portion of the players in that game.
It is all there to play for...
Even an average amount of effort would have given us a point.
When you see guys hardly moving at all...no interest in putting the effort in to win second balls. Standing around after making a bad pass... Just an infuriating game from Jozy. The effort was so bad it looked like we were deliberately trying to throw the game.
You look at the intensity the Hondurans and Panamanians were bringing...playing for their WC lives. Then you look at our bunch standing around waiting for something to happen...truly sickening. Just 4 days after giving max effort to beat Panama in a solid cohesive effort.....same freaking 11...and they're not interested in giving enough effort to go the WC.
It is all there to play for...
Even an average amount of effort would have given us a point.
When you see guys hardly moving at all...no interest in putting the effort in to win second balls. Standing around after making a bad pass... Just an infuriating game from Jozy. The effort was so bad it looked like we were deliberately trying to throw the game.
You look at the intensity the Hondurans and Panamanians were bringing...playing for their WC lives. Then you look at our bunch standing around waiting for something to happen...truly sickening. Just 4 days after giving max effort to beat Panama in a solid cohesive effort.....same freaking 11...and they're not interested in giving enough effort to go the WC.
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