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kernn63
Post #16
Thursday September 21, 2017 5:56pm

Joined Feb 2013
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#5 in 538's power index right now.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/global-c...

Rey Regicide
Post #17
Thursday September 21, 2017 6:08pm

Joined Sep 2013
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Original post from jayboy

What about Dempsey leaving Fulham to go to Tottenham? That's the closest we've had Rey. That was only about a year after he led Fulham all the way to the Europe League finals.
(How crazy is that?? If they'd won, Fulham would have had a season in the Champions League... now they are mired in the Championship).

Anyway, I'm with everyone else here. This is a great move... I only wish that he could spend this year training with them instead of in St. Louis, but the World Cup will be good for him.

I also hope Bremen unload ArJo so he can have a shot at restarting his career somewhere.


Dempsey should be a legend. But year after year he was treated as a regular squad player and i don't think not until he hit that volley over Abiatti and he was like 6th or 7th in premier league goals did Fulham treat him like a valuable piece. .

Dave
Post #18
Friday September 22, 2017 2:19am

Joined Jul 2014
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Original post from kernn63

Way over mid level. One reason Dembele went so high because BVB don't feel like they should be sellers to very big clubs, but Dembele and Barca really forced their hand.

There's only a handful of clubs you leave for at this point from BVB. Chelsea, Man U, (maybe City ), Barca, Real Madrid, PSG, Real Madrid and Fulham.


You forgot Bayern München in your list, but BvB is always reluctant to sell to them. Chelsea, Man U, Man City, Barca, RM, PSG, & Bayern M are the clubs that spend crazy $$$. Liverpool, Tott., BvB, etc...are the tier just behind the big boys.

kernn63
Post #19
Friday September 22, 2017 6:00pm

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Original post from Dave

You forgot Bayern München in your list, but BvB is always reluctant to sell to them. Chelsea, Man U, Man City, Barca, RM, PSG, & Bayern M are the clubs that spend crazy $$$. Liverpool, Tott., BvB, etc...are the tier just behind the big boys.


Yep....fully agree. Long list in the etc column there, but they're near the top of it.

admsghs27
Post #20
Friday September 22, 2017 7:22pm

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Original post from kernn63

#5 in 538's power index right now.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/global-c...

Honestly i would have Atlanta or TFC in the top 50 their better than some of those listed. MLS never gets any love.

cudevil
Post #21
Friday September 22, 2017 9:40pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from admsghs27

Honestly i would have Atlanta or TFC in the top 50 their better than some of those listed. MLS never gets any love.


Name 1 club from that Top 50 that TFC or Atlanta would even win 4/10 against.

Dave
Post #22
Saturday September 23, 2017 4:13am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 870
Original post from Rey Regicide

Dempsey should be a legend. But year after year he was treated as a regular squad player and i don't think not until he hit that volley over Abiatti and he was like 6th or 7th in premier league goals did Fulham treat him like a valuable piece. .


Dempsey's treatment also kept that "chip on his shoulder" and drove him to continue his development. Which made him the all time best in USMNT history.
That said to the Fullham fans Dempsey, like McBride before him, is fondly remembered for everything he did for the club.

dolcem
Post #23
Saturday September 23, 2017 11:56am

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Original post from Dave

Dempsey's treatment also kept that "chip on his shoulder" and drove him to continue his development. Which made him the all time best in USMNT history.
That said to the Fullham fans Dempsey, like McBride before him, is fondly remembered for everything he did for the club.


Dempsey is an unconventional player and I think that's why a lot of coaches doubted his ability to make it in the Prem, but he proved them wrong every time.

He would have gone down as a club legend but he basically ruined his reputation by refusing to play when Tottenham wanted him. It was a very diva move and his talent didn't justify it.
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mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #24
Sunday September 24, 2017 1:09am

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Original post from dolcem

He would have gone down as a club legend but he basically ruined his reputation by refusing to play when Tottenham wanted him. It was a very diva move and his talent didn't justify it.


I think that I don't know/remember this story.

dolcem
Post #25
Sunday September 24, 2017 7:18pm

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Original post from mmee

I think that I don't know/remember this story.


Tottenham wanted to buy Dempsey and they were lowballing Fulham, who refused to sell. Dempsey then refused to play until they completed the transfer (that was the trend that summer, one or two other really high profile players did the same, forgot who). Ruined is a strong word, but I spoke to a Fulham fan about it and he said Dempsey had been a hero there and he really disappointed them. He was 29 I think and coming off that season of his and it was his only to play Champions League ball for a top team. I sympathize but he should have handled it differently.
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mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #26
Sunday September 24, 2017 11:19pm

Joined Mar 2014
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OH.... yeah, I remember that. I misunderstood.

I side with players over owners on a lot of things, but not on "trade me because I'm great" shenanigans.

Jzaval01
Post #27
Sunday December 17, 2017 6:29pm

Joined May 2013
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http://www.americansoccernow.com/articles/aft...

"But like with any top young player, Sargent had important decisions as to where to begin his career. He admitted that staying domestically and playing for Sporting Kansas City was an option for him but one of the driving concerns was the lack of playing among top young Americans based domestically"

What an alarming fact. The fact that in order for our young players to get significant playing time they have to move to a better, richer league than the MLS, like the Bundesliga. MLS needs to do better there no excuse. Hopefully letting teams keep 100% of a homegrown sale this season chages the course going forward. It's ridiculous when a player like EPB is rotting in the bench for Sporting KC when he might likely earn a first team starting spot at a team like PVS (loan). So much wrong in MLS

navi8132
New York
Post #28
Sunday December 17, 2017 6:48pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,950
It's laughable that a league that is filled with much higher caliber players (Bund vs MLS) gives a HIGHER chance of playing time for the young than the league with lower caliber players. I don't completely agree with Sargent, but hell, anything to get them out of MLS is Christmas to me.

Jzaval01
Post #29
Sunday December 17, 2017 8:43pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,304
MLS doesnt get it ... Atlanta PROVED that we dont need old aging stars to get fans... YOU NEED good a football/soccer team that plays well. Americans care about winning, entretaining games and young stars. The league focuses so much on casuals... if you want to grow the league find and develop the next pulisic... develop USMNT and international players, casual will follow because they
A) follow a player from their nation
B) follow a player after seen them in a world cup
C) European will follow teams to see next rising start to possibly move to Europe

Jzaval01
Post #30
Sunday December 17, 2017 8:46pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,304
Its clear we dont know what were doing so it's time to get help from people like tata Martino and Vieira. More coaches like these and stop with the recycling of coaches that fail. Of course their are crappy owners in top of all these

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