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kernn63
Post #16
Thursday September 21, 2017 5:56pm

Joined Feb 2013
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#5 in 538's power index right now.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/global-c...

Rey Regicide
Post #17
Thursday September 21, 2017 6:08pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,900
Original post from jayboy

What about Dempsey leaving Fulham to go to Tottenham? That's the closest we've had Rey. That was only about a year after he led Fulham all the way to the Europe League finals.
(How crazy is that?? If they'd won, Fulham would have had a season in the Champions League... now they are mired in the Championship).

Anyway, I'm with everyone else here. This is a great move... I only wish that he could spend this year training with them instead of in St. Louis, but the World Cup will be good for him.

I also hope Bremen unload ArJo so he can have a shot at restarting his career somewhere.


Dempsey should be a legend. But year after year he was treated as a regular squad player and i don't think not until he hit that volley over Abiatti and he was like 6th or 7th in premier league goals did Fulham treat him like a valuable piece. .

Dave
Post #18
Friday September 22, 2017 2:19am

Joined Jul 2014
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Original post from kernn63

Way over mid level. One reason Dembele went so high because BVB don't feel like they should be sellers to very big clubs, but Dembele and Barca really forced their hand.

There's only a handful of clubs you leave for at this point from BVB. Chelsea, Man U, (maybe City ), Barca, Real Madrid, PSG, Real Madrid and Fulham.


You forgot Bayern München in your list, but BvB is always reluctant to sell to them. Chelsea, Man U, Man City, Barca, RM, PSG, & Bayern M are the clubs that spend crazy $$$. Liverpool, Tott., BvB, etc...are the tier just behind the big boys.

kernn63
Post #19
Friday September 22, 2017 6:00pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 231
Original post from Dave

You forgot Bayern München in your list, but BvB is always reluctant to sell to them. Chelsea, Man U, Man City, Barca, RM, PSG, & Bayern M are the clubs that spend crazy $$$. Liverpool, Tott., BvB, etc...are the tier just behind the big boys.


Yep....fully agree. Long list in the etc column there, but they're near the top of it.

admsghs27
Post #20
Friday September 22, 2017 7:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from kernn63

#5 in 538's power index right now.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/global-c...

Honestly i would have Atlanta or TFC in the top 50 their better than some of those listed. MLS never gets any love.

cudevil
Post #21
Friday September 22, 2017 9:40pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 524
Original post from admsghs27

Honestly i would have Atlanta or TFC in the top 50 their better than some of those listed. MLS never gets any love.


Name 1 club from that Top 50 that TFC or Atlanta would even win 4/10 against.

Dave
Post #22
Saturday September 23, 2017 4:13am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 741
Original post from Rey Regicide

Dempsey should be a legend. But year after year he was treated as a regular squad player and i don't think not until he hit that volley over Abiatti and he was like 6th or 7th in premier league goals did Fulham treat him like a valuable piece. .


Dempsey's treatment also kept that "chip on his shoulder" and drove him to continue his development. Which made him the all time best in USMNT history.
That said to the Fullham fans Dempsey, like McBride before him, is fondly remembered for everything he did for the club.

dolcem
Post #23
Saturday September 23, 2017 11:56am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,737
Original post from Dave

Dempsey's treatment also kept that "chip on his shoulder" and drove him to continue his development. Which made him the all time best in USMNT history.
That said to the Fullham fans Dempsey, like McBride before him, is fondly remembered for everything he did for the club.


Dempsey is an unconventional player and I think that's why a lot of coaches doubted his ability to make it in the Prem, but he proved them wrong every time.

He would have gone down as a club legend but he basically ruined his reputation by refusing to play when Tottenham wanted him. It was a very diva move and his talent didn't justify it.
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mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #24
Sunday September 24, 2017 1:09am

Joined Mar 2014
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Original post from dolcem

He would have gone down as a club legend but he basically ruined his reputation by refusing to play when Tottenham wanted him. It was a very diva move and his talent didn't justify it.


I think that I don't know/remember this story.

dolcem
Post #25
Sunday September 24, 2017 7:18pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,737
Original post from mmee

I think that I don't know/remember this story.


Tottenham wanted to buy Dempsey and they were lowballing Fulham, who refused to sell. Dempsey then refused to play until they completed the transfer (that was the trend that summer, one or two other really high profile players did the same, forgot who). Ruined is a strong word, but I spoke to a Fulham fan about it and he said Dempsey had been a hero there and he really disappointed them. He was 29 I think and coming off that season of his and it was his only to play Champions League ball for a top team. I sympathize but he should have handled it differently.
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mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #26
Sunday September 24, 2017 11:19pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,144
OH.... yeah, I remember that. I misunderstood.

I side with players over owners on a lot of things, but not on "trade me because I'm great" shenanigans.

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