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Dave
Post #1
Friday September 8, 2017 3:06am

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Wanted to see who people felt would be invited to the 2018 January Camp. It being the last real opportunity to take a final look at MLS & Scandinavian based players before down selecting the player pool ahead of the WC.

I'm giving Howard & Dempsey the full winter off due to their age & their history with the team.

Keepers: Guzan, Hamid, Gonzalez, Steffen
Defense: Zimmerman, Glad, Besler, Garza, Vincent, Rosenberry,
Midfield: Acosta, Bradley, Nagbe, Arriola, Rowe, Zardes, Manneh, Roldan, Canouse
Forward: Jozy, Morris, Dwyer, Agudelo

Thoughts?

skangles
DC
Post #2
Friday September 8, 2017 3:18am

Joined Jan 2013
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On whether he considered a young player, such as Ethan Horvath or Bill Hamid, instead of veteran Nick Rimando as the third-choice goalkeeper -

"Yes. If I was thinking of coaching past the 2018 World Cup, I would be maybe considering the third goalkeeper. That's not my focus. If it was my focus, I would probably have a younger goalkeeper and say we're getting him ready for down the road. But I'm not concerned with down the road."


That's a direct quote from Arena in a Goff article just before the Honduras game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-in...=.e25c2a61aa3f

Based on that quote I don't expect many surprises. Jones and Lletget would be names that I'd expect to see called up after extended absences. Otherwise, I think it will pretty much be the Gold Cup squad.

Dave
Post #3
Friday September 8, 2017 3:45am

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@skangles - thx for the link. For me that is a very disturbing quote from Arena, but it also explains many of his player selections...Rimando, Wondo, McCarty, Bedoya, Zusi, Hedges, etc... This type of mentality/statement was one of my biggest concerns when Arena was hired to replace JK.

IMO it doesn't matter what the duration of a managers tenure may be, they should be looking at the present and the future equally. Especially if it's for a non-competitive camp/match (like the January Camp is). Yes he should include some first choice players as a baseline to evaluate new players, provide leadership/structure, and to get them reps. But if 2 players are of similar skill/ability and their ages are significantly different than the player who has the potential to contribute longer should be given the selection edge.

Thank you for the Reminder about Lletget....he's been out so long as was with the USMNT so little that I forgot about him

MSantoine
Post #4
Friday September 8, 2017 11:31am

Joined Nov 2012
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And that qoute is a perfect example of why Arena was the bad choice. He is hurting our 2022 team (the one we actually have a chance to do something special) and hurting our 2018 team (will bring in a weaker team since some players "wont be tested" and he'll leave them home, see Miazga, Chandler, etc)

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #5
Friday September 8, 2017 11:18pm

Joined May 2013
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Prior to the last two games he probably thought his team was pretty much set...granted he didn't have Yedlin or Brooks. I hope he realizes he needs more speed and quality to compete. If he doesn't want to introduce younger players for the experience or for the long haul prior to the WC that's one thing, but he should absolutely understand he needs a handful of guys ASAP to be competitive now...we have 9 months to get them up to speed.

Now is the time to be brutally honest and recognize the weak areas on the roster. Time to get creative and determine if we can play some of our potential Dmids at outside fullback as back ups, maybe try Williams, Acosta or Adams... maybe Derrick Jones. Bring Lima in for look at LB or back up RB. What do we have to lose. There is still time to try options.

Maybe consider Sargent at flank mid or a late forward sub. The are half a dozen players that have a legit shot of positively impacting the final 23.

Right now I would drop Omar and replace him with Miazga. I would absolutely bring Sargent...Lletget is a no brainer.

He brought LD and Beas in 2002. He needs to find a couple players with speed and skill to help this roster.

Besides, if Arena brings in a handful of young guys he lowers expectations and has a built in excuse. Better way to go than a slow bleed out with a team too long of tooth.

Know Nothing
Post #6
Saturday September 9, 2017 7:18pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,127
Sorry to be a downer, but Camp Cupcake does not matter unless we fail to make the WC.

Arena's teams are MLS centric so he will call in the same group that has been through qualifying or the GC. If we qualify, he will "reward" these players. If we qualify, he will see it as job done and anything else we do at the WC will be gravy.

If we fail to qualify we will have a new manager with new ideas and fresh faces will certainly be there depending on who the manager is. I am hoping the new manager uses the camp to run rule over younger MLS players as well as U-20 and U-23 players not getting pt in Europe.

hamsamwich
Post #7
Saturday September 9, 2017 7:54pm

Joined Oct 2013
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I'd like to see what kind of physical shape that Mix D has after a season on loan. He has more to offer in a central position than many of the current players do. He has done things in a USA jersey in central midfield that Nagbe, Bedoya and Acosta wish they could. Consistency is his issue, but I'm not giving up on the guy just yet as he combines vision and technique. He and Lletget would be a good central midfield 2 in a 4-4-2 if we are just going with guys that aren't CDMs.

dolcem
Post #8
Saturday September 9, 2017 9:18pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,726
Original post from hamsamwich

I'd like to see what kind of physical shape that Mix D has after a season on loan. He has more to offer in a central position than many of the current players do. He has done things in a USA jersey in central midfield that Nagbe, Bedoya and Acosta wish they could. Consistency is his issue, but I'm not giving up on the guy just yet as he combines vision and technique. He and Lletget would be a good central midfield 2 in a 4-4-2 if we are just going with guys that aren't CDMs.


I agree completely and have been meaning to post about the same. He's played really well in Sweden. He has put in some very solid performances over the years with the NT and offers some technical skill (lacking in our pool). He made a horrible decision to go to NYCFC (he was never going to coexist with Lampard and Pirlo) but is a solid player and good enough to get looks. I think he is a better version of Nagbe TBH, and I'd rather seem him than, say, Dax McCarty.
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