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blaise213
Post #106
Sunday January 14, 2018 7:39pm

Joined Sep 2012
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Id take that Lodeiro dude on the sounders in the midfield over Bradley any day. That's the type of midfielders we need.

Losing J Gonzalez made us lose a player who can defend and attack

blaise213
Post #107
Friday February 2, 2018 3:55am

Joined Sep 2012
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Took me forever to find this thread

Was that the same Bosnia team we played ? Any watch the game to see how Gonzalez did? I read a few articles...

I'm calling it now dude will have a Guiseppi Rossi career with Mexico. He'll get injured right before the world cup.

Jzaval01
Post #108
Saturday February 3, 2018 8:06am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,307
What kills me so much more is the fact that we just helped out Mexico get a potentially really good player. We identified him and developed him and gifted him to them. Imagine the potential midfield we had (including Jona) versus whatever Mexico has which is an aging Midfield... Even if Jona didnt become a world class or whatever prospect he still would i think have a place in our squad. Never enough depth...

In addition from what im up to date there really isnt much going for Mexico in terms of talents correct me if im wrong here anyone. Yea sure some decent players but nothing to what they have now. That includes Corona and Lozano who havent done anything in a top 4 league as of today. Anyway thats the most frustrating part from those bums who run our federation.

blaise213
Post #109
Tuesday May 15, 2018 8:49am

Joined Sep 2012
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Haha ! Gonzalez didn't even make the preliminary WQ roster for Mexico...He's the Mexican Giuseppe Rossi

db707
Post #110
Tuesday May 15, 2018 2:13pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 543
Original post from blaise213

Haha ! Gonzalez didn't even make the preliminary WQ roster for Mexico...He's the Mexican Giuseppe Rossi


Worse, at least Rossi never played for us or even claimed he was going to play for us.

johnvuke
Dallas
Post #111
Tuesday May 15, 2018 3:55pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 32
Original post from blaise213

Haha ! Gonzalez didn't even make the preliminary WQ roster for Mexico...He's the Mexican Giuseppe Rossi


I don't see how you take pride out of this. Jon Go turned his back on the team he grew up with, and Mexico didn't even have to promise him a WC spot...They just needed to offer him the chance to compete for one.

It goes to show, how little time and effort USSF put into JonGo, who should have been playing in the late season qualifiers for the US. US didn't even bother to contact the kid, and as a result he jumped ship. Him not making Mexico's WC roster just goes to show how bad the USSF has become at identifying and integrating young talent.

cudevil
Post #112
Tuesday May 15, 2018 5:05pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 602
Original post from johnvuke

I don't see how you take pride out of this. Jon Go turned his back on the team he grew up with, and Mexico didn't even have to promise him a WC spot...They just needed to offer him the chance to compete for one.

It goes to show, how little time and effort USSF put into JonGo, who should have been playing in the late season qualifiers for the US. US didn't even bother to contact the kid, and as a result he jumped ship. Him not making Mexico's WC roster just goes to show how bad the USSF has become at identifying and integrating young talent.


You take "pride" in this because basing the decision to switch on this past qualifying cycle was always stupid. He wasn't going to make the Mexico roster for '18 and we won't miss out in '22.

johnvuke
Dallas
Post #113
Tuesday May 15, 2018 9:36pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 32
His decision to switch was due to lack of effort by US to keep him engaged, and not by Mexico qualifying and US not.

I get it that you're glad in his misfortune of missing out on the WC roster, but it doesn't fix the fact that US shot itself in the foot, got caught in a lie trying to cover up blatant incompetence, and rewarded said incompetence by extending the fools responsible for the blunder.

Yay, Jon Go missed the WC roster, all is well with USSF now! revenge is ours. Here Tab, and Rongen, you both should stay in charge of youth scouting...and Bruce 2.0, you should stay as interim, since your predecessor was so freakin successful

cudevil
Post #114
Wednesday May 16, 2018 7:44pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 602
Original post from johnvuke

His decision to switch was due to lack of effort by US to keep him engaged, and not by Mexico qualifying and US not.

I get it that you're glad in his misfortune of missing out on the WC roster, but it doesn't fix the fact that US shot itself in the foot, got caught in a lie trying to cover up blatant incompetence, and rewarded said incompetence by extending the fools responsible for the blunder.

Yay, Jon Go missed the WC roster, all is well with USSF now! revenge is ours. Here Tab, and Rongen, you both should stay in charge of youth scouting...and Bruce 2.0, you should stay as interim, since your predecessor was so freakin successful


Literally no one is arguing that because Gonzalez wasn't part of the Mexico squad for '18 it means that the USSF is ok.

Jzaval01
Post #115
Thursday May 17, 2018 11:40pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,307
Original post from johnvuke

Him not making Mexico's WC roster just goes to show how bad the USSF has become at identifying and integrating young talent.


The irony is the US knew who this kid was wayyyyy before mexico even had a clue. They became competent which is another problem because just like they lost Jona they managed to turn Jesse around. So yea people F*** up.

Regardless screw this kid glad he wont go to WC. Traitor.

tylercocinas
Post #116
Sunday May 20, 2018 3:59pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,135
Original post from Jzaval01

The irony is the US knew who this kid was wayyyyy before mexico even had a clue. They became competent which is another problem because just like they lost Jona they managed to turn Jesse around. So yea people F*** up.

Regardless screw this kid glad he wont go to WC. Traitor.


So this actually isn't true, Mexico offered him an opportunity to join their youth teams when he won the Aluanza de Futbol competition and moved to Mexico to play for CF Monterrey. He didn't feel valued by the United States based on the fact that he was passed over for the U17 WC, the U20 WC, and the fall friendly with Portugal. He's an example of why it's important to ensure that players (especially those with multiple NT options) feel appreciated by a federation.

Jzaval01
Post #117
Sunday May 20, 2018 6:06pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,307
Original post from tylercocinas

So this actually isn't true, Mexico offered him an opportunity to join their youth teams when he won the Aluanza de Futbol competition and moved to Mexico to play for CF Monterrey. He didn't feel valued by the United States based on the fact that he was passed over for the U17 WC, the U20 WC, and the fall friendly with Portugal. He's an example of why it's important to ensure that players (especially those with multiple NT options) feel appreciated by a federation.


Nope he was already a US youth before the tournament. He wasnt discovered by MLS teams which is another issue
Yet he was in the US youth squads and "committed" as late as December. Things changed after failure to word cup. Regardless we dont need some kid that can feel he can jump around squads as he feels like. Once we failed to qualify it was obvious as we see with todays roster that its time for the kids to get a chance. No doubt he would have been in these friendlies but w.e his loss.
Like i said US soccer failed to communicate so its not like they get blamed but it was coming as they twittled their thumbs

tylercocinas
Post #118
Monday May 21, 2018 12:18pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,135
Lol I'm telling you facts Brodie. The straw the broke the camels back was the Portugal friendly. In any case though Jona is a great person who made the best decision for his career.

johnvuke
Dallas
Post #119
Tuesday May 22, 2018 3:20pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 32
Original post from Jzaval01

Regardless we dont need some kid that can feel he can jump around squads as he feels like.


Yes we do. US is incredibly thin and needs every quality player that can get. US needs to aggressively recruit Latino players, needs to drop the xenophobic bull shit, and needs to get with the times and stop thinking every player that represents the US at the youth level will represent the US at the senior level. World football no longer works like that.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #120
Tuesday May 22, 2018 3:45pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 995
Original post from johnvuke

Yes we do. US is incredibly thin and needs every quality player that can get. US needs to aggressively recruit Latino players, needs to drop the xenophobic bull shit, and needs to get with the times and stop thinking every player that represents the US at the youth level will represent the US at the senior level. World football no longer works like that.


Absolutely.
We are no where near elite team, however, even if we are on par with Spain/Germany, I would still go full press on recruiting every single eligible player. More the merrier.
USSF is spending $60MM for Soccer Hall of Fame( I never see or understand a point in having a HOF building/structure), I would much rather spend that money on something more productive and start pursuing Mexican kids...

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