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EKneezy
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Post #121
Saturday July 4, 2020 2:21am

Joined May 2013
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Everton makes a lot of sense

Sigurdsson is getting up there in age. Andre Gomes hasn't truly impressed although he came back miraculously from a leg break.

Tom Davies is a nice young player but Weston is more athletic and dynamic.

bjelks
Post #122
Saturday July 4, 2020 2:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,667
Also linked to Liverpool. I say go there and go for glory. He's a top ball winner in the middle of the pitch and can play better possession with better players around as can anybody at his level.

https://twitter.com/s04daily/status/127913849...
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cudevil
Post #123
Tuesday July 7, 2020 8:33pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from blaise213

I've already said, he's one of those players that succeeds with better technical players around him... he turns into a ghost on the US Nats, especially surrounded by MLS players.


This is really earth shattering. Players playing better with other good players? I mean, that is a totally new, original thought.

blaise213
Post #124
Wednesday July 8, 2020 7:06am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,111
Original post from cudevil

This is really earth shattering. Players playing better with other good players? I mean, that is a totally new, original thought.


That means McKennie individual talent is average. Look at Pulisic, dude can score on his own and with his feet.

Like I said McKennie doesn't do shit on the National team Except disappear

cudevil
Post #125
Wednesday July 8, 2020 1:34pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from blaise213

That means McKennie individual talent is average. Look at Pulisic, dude can score on his own and with his feet.

Like I said McKennie doesn't do shit on the National team Except disappear


No, it doesn't mean that. And no, McKennie doesn't disappear with the Nats. Keep those hot takes coming.

bjelks
Post #126
Wednesday July 8, 2020 3:00pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,667
@blaise213 these are some idiotic takes on a a player legit valued between 20-25 mil thats being targeted by the best team in the world.
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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #127
Wednesday July 8, 2020 6:24pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from blaise213

That means McKennie individual talent is average. Look at Pulisic, dude can score on his own and with his feet.

Like I said McKennie doesn't do shit on the National team Except disappear


Some guys don't translate well to the National team. Look at Messi with Argentina, that does not mean they are average players. Maybe McKennie will shine when we have a more consistent and more talented roster around him.

whyneverme
Post #128
Wednesday July 8, 2020 6:55pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 85
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Some guys don't translate well to the National team. Look at Messi with Argentina, that does not mean they are average players. Maybe McKennie will shine when we have a more consistent and more talented roster around him.


Not sure how anyone can say McKennie doesn't play well for the Nats. When he has played, more times than not, he is much better than most other players on the field. He scores goals, creates chances for others and wins duals all over the pitch. What else do you want a player to do? He scored against Portugal, and dropped a hat trick in less than 15 minutes while setting up two other goals against Cuba.... (Right it is Cuba but we expect all of our players to dominate against Cuba and he did while many others did not)

Just saying, I think criticizing McKennie is a bit harsh when discussing the USMNT problems...

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #129
Wednesday July 8, 2020 10:31pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from whyneverme

Not sure how anyone can say McKennie doesn't play well for the Nats. When he has played, more times than not, he is much better than most other players on the field. He scores goals, creates chances for others and wins duals all over the pitch. What else do you want a player to do? He scored against Portugal, and dropped a hat trick in less than 15 minutes while setting up two other goals against Cuba.... (Right it is Cuba but we expect all of our players to dominate against Cuba and he did while many others did not)

Just saying, I think criticizing McKennie is a bit harsh when discussing the USMNT problems...


It was blaise that said he played badly for the nats and therefore we all should see he was an average player. I pointed out that some guys don't play well for the nats but are certainly not average players. I personally think that McKennie has played well for both nats and club.

Dave
Post #130
Thursday July 9, 2020 2:45am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,057
I think we may all be pleasantly surprised with McKennie in particular and the USMNT
in general once international games return.
The last time a full "A-Team" camp was held McKennie did not have all that much support....and may have tried to do too much. When you consider that....
Adams was sidelined with an injury, Dest had just started making Ajax 1st team appearances, Sargent had just started making 1st team appearances for Bremen, and Pulisic was't in very good form.
If we were to call a camp today, and Gregg was honest with his selections, we could realistically see the following Upgrades to the last 3 Competitive Rosters:
LB: A. Robinson > Ream/Lovitz
RB: Dest > Cannon/Yedlin
CDM: Adams > Bradley/Yueill
RW: Reyna > Morris
Pulisic (Now) > Pulisic (then)/Arriola
Sargent/Jozy > Zardes/Sargent (then)
Even if McKennie hasn't improved at all since last Oct/Nov. (which I find unlikely) the cast around him will have, which should make it easier on him.
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Improvement through subtraction in some cases as some players have been injured (Arriola/Bradley) and/or not had their clubs return to regular play yet (MLS). While others have had some very good performances/seasons which should garner them an opportunity to receive a call-up.
Homes, Hyndman, Green as options @ CM in place of Roldan & Lletget
Miazga, CCV, EPB as options @ CB in place of Zimmerman & Long

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #131
Thursday July 9, 2020 9:08pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from Dave

I think we may all be pleasantly surprised with McKennie in particular and the USMNT
in general once international games return.
The last time a full "A-Team" camp was held McKennie did not have all that much support....and may have tried to do too much. When you consider that....
Adams was sidelined with an injury, Dest had just started making Ajax 1st team appearances, Sargent had just started making 1st team appearances for Bremen, and Pulisic was't in very good form.
If we were to call a camp today, and Gregg was honest with his selections, we could realistically see the following Upgrades to the last 3 Competitive Rosters:
LB: A. Robinson > Ream/Lovitz
RB: Dest > Cannon/Yedlin
CDM: Adams > Bradley/Yueill
RW: Reyna > Morris
Pulisic (Now) > Pulisic (then)/Arriola
Sargent/Jozy > Zardes/Sargent (then)
Even if McKennie hasn't improved at all since last Oct/Nov. (which I find unlikely) the cast around him will have, which should make it easier on him.
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Improvement through subtraction in some cases as some players have been injured (Arriola/Bradley) and/or not had their clubs return to regular play yet (MLS). While others have had some very good performances/seasons which should garner them an opportunity to receive a call-up.
Homes, Hyndman, Green as options @ CM in place of Roldan & Lletget
Miazga, CCV, EPB as options @ CB in place of Zimmerman & Long


Nice post, and as I said before none of us know what GB's dept chart is. I would be shocked if he continued to trot out a lot of these MLS guys with the way that our European based players have been developing and playing.

cudevil
Post #132
Thursday July 9, 2020 9:37pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Nice post, and as I said before none of us know what GB's dept chart is. I would be shocked if he continued to trot out a lot of these MLS guys with the way that our European based players have been developing and playing.


Would you really be shocked?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #133
Thursday July 9, 2020 11:19pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from cudevil

Would you really be shocked?


yes, for sure

Dave
Post #134
Friday July 10, 2020 1:24am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,057
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Nice post, and as I said before none of us know what GB's dept chart is. I would be shocked if he continued to trot out a lot of these MLS guys with the way that our European based players have been developing and playing.

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While I agree that none of us know what GB's depth chart is...past history has made me a little dubious about his player selections. Many of GB's past selections have shown a propensity to either rely on players he has experience with (through MLS) or players he believes have an experience edge over young players who were only just emerging with their clubs 1st teams.
For me, this was most notably demonstrated by his ignoring/overlooking the form of some of the more fringe players in leagues outside of MLS (Green, Alvarado, Morales, Weah, Miazga, CCV, etc...). Some of this may have been USSF's desire to drive some of these players towards the Olympics....but that would not account for those that were not age eligible for that competition who were arguably playing better than their MLS counter parts.
After the Farce that was the search & hiring process for our Head Coach...I think there are many fans who are wondering if there isn't some agenda in USSF to push/promote the use of MLS Players.
I guess we'll have to wait to find out what Gregg's thought process really is until the international games return.

Samtom23
Post #135
Friday July 10, 2020 8:42am

Joined Jun 2018
Total Posts: 351
Original post from Dave

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While I agree that none of us know what GB's depth chart is...past history has made me a little dubious about his player selections. Many of GB's past selections have shown a propensity to either rely on players he has experience with (through MLS) or players he believes have an experience edge over young players who were only just emerging with their clubs 1st teams.
For me, this was most notably demonstrated by his ignoring/overlooking the form of some of the more fringe players in leagues outside of MLS (Green, Alvarado, Morales, Weah, Miazga, CCV, etc...). Some of this may have been USSF's desire to drive some of these players towards the Olympics....but that would not account for those that were not age eligible for that competition who were arguably playing better than their MLS counter parts.
After the Farce that was the search & hiring process for our Head Coach...I think there are many fans who are wondering if there isn't some agenda in USSF to push/promote the use of MLS Players.
I guess we'll have to wait to find out what Gregg's thought process really is until the international games return.


Could be USSF to cheap to spring for an international ticket. Similar to USSF not buying out GB contract. I am dubious over some of his selections as well. But he seems to be more willing recently to go younger. Uly and Ferrira as examples. Be interesting to see his next roster selection.

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