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stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #76
Thursday August 17, 2017 4:34pm

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 344
I would rather see

FJ - Besler -Cameron--Chandler

or

Besler Ream Gonzo--Cameron

not ideal but the one thing about arena is he is good at getting guys to buy into a game plan. I fear we will go into the game potentially in a shell but we really need points

should be interesting

Could also put Cameron in CDM as he bossed CR in the snow game

Wood

Dempsey

FJ Pulisic

Cameron Bradley

Villafana--Besler---Gonzo--Chander
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platter
Jacksonville, FL
Post #77
Thursday August 17, 2017 9:39pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 97
Don't understand why Arena doesn't go with 3 in the back all the time rather than only against Mexico. It suits our personnel Johnson, Villafana, Yedlin, & Chandler all are better in this setup, plus we always seem to have quality CB's even with Brooks down you'd still have Cameron, Ream, Besler, Gonzalez, Miazga, Birnbaum, Orozco, Hedges, & Zimmerman. Plus, it takes pressure off the central midfield which seems to be our weakest area.
If you are going to play with 3 in back vs. Mexico and I assume other higher quality competition we may face at the WC, why not against everyone and get everyone used to it?

bjelks
Post #78
Thursday August 17, 2017 11:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,671
1) Nagbe has to be on the field. He's our best player at keeping the ball and running at the defenders.

2) I don't trust Gonzo, Ream, Besler, Orozco, Hedges, Zimmerman, Birnbaum in a 4 back system let alone 3.
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hamsamwich
Post #79
Friday August 18, 2017 12:13pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,314
@platter- the 3 at the back v Mexico only sort of worked. Bradley scored a wonder goal and we defended well. My math says 2 points isn't good enough from these two games but playing to defend at home doesn't always work out. ID love to see us beat CR, but we need goals for that. Playing a 5-4-1 doesn't speak to attacking soccer pregame anyway..

MSantoine
Post #80
Friday August 18, 2017 1:18pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Its starting to look like Yedlin should be back (barring a setback) for the qualies as he already returned to training. If he gets a couple of games in with Newcastle then he should be considered good to go. My guess is we see a 4-4-2

Wood-Jozy
CP-Bradley-Acosta-Nagbe
Fab-Ream-Cam-Yedlin
Howard

Deuce as 60-70' sub both games. Fab only playing in one game.

hamsamwich
Post #81
Friday August 18, 2017 1:44pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,314
I'd play the legend Demarcus Beasley. An out of form Villafaña worries me.

Rey Regicide
Post #82
Friday August 18, 2017 3:16pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
We don't want to play Chandler because he sucks at US MNT (admittedly he has, but that was different management)

We don't want to play FJ at any fullback because he's good at club teams in midfield (basically what we're disregarding with Chandler, club form)

Am I reaching too much here?

Do'nt play Chandler, or call him up. Fine, I mean if we're convinced he sucks for US MNT and it's a proven thing in the lockerroom that he shows up for money, exposure etc whatever self interest ( I do'nt believe it, but fine)

But how do we disregard FJ's horrible performances at midfield all the time?

Is it because he doesn't raise a stink as a person while doing it?

stoked3
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Post #83
Friday August 18, 2017 4:06pm

Joined Oct 2014
Total Posts: 344
Original post from bjelks

1) Nagbe has to be on the field. He's our best player at keeping the ball and running at the defenders.

2) I don't trust Gonzo, Ream, Besler, Orozco, Hedges, Zimmerman, Birnbaum in a 4 back system let alone 3.


I agree I had a brain fart, I would certainly include nagbe in my 11. I like him centrally more than on the outside though. But I guess if he played at lm since he can hold the ball we could use Fabian at LB and he could push forward to fill the space with nagbe cuts in centrally
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dolcem
Post #84
Friday August 18, 2017 6:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Johnson Brooks Cameron Yedlin

It's the best back line we've ever had by far (the first three are our best defenders of all time besides Cherundolo). Don't mess with it.

Now with Brooks out injured...I don't know. Qualification is guaranteed and aside from Costa Rica at home, the rest of our fixtures are easy, so we don't need to worry too much about results. Thus, Bruce should pick the hardest working guy with the best attitude.
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Rey Regicide
Post #85
Friday August 18, 2017 7:36pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from dolcem

Johnson Brooks Cameron Yedlin

It's the best back line we've ever had by far (the first three are our best defenders of all time besides Cherundolo). Don't mess with it.

Now with Brooks out injured...I don't know. Qualification is guaranteed and aside from Costa Rica at home, the rest of our fixtures are easy, so we don't need to worry too much about results. Thus, Bruce should pick the hardest working guy with the best attitude.


Have to second this.

Even tho I think Cameron would be our best CDM.

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #86
Friday August 18, 2017 9:13pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,147
Original post from Rey Regicide
But how do we disregard FJ's horrible performances at midfield all the time?

Is it because he doesn't raise a stink as a person while doing it?


I don't disregard his frequent mediocrity in the USNT jersey, and he has said some things that aren't quite a stink, but are fairly spoiled.

Johnson will never, ever jump through a wall for the US.

navi8132
New York
Post #87
Friday August 18, 2017 9:16pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
During the 2014 World Cup as rightback, Fabian had a very high level of passion and effectiveness. I think it's just a matter of World Cup game or Non-World Cup game that dictates his passion for USMNT. For me he's a leftback on the USMNT.

Know Nothing
Post #88
Friday August 18, 2017 9:50pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,779
Original post from navi8132

During the 2014 World Cup as rightback, Fabian had a very high level of passion and effectiveness. I think it's just a matter of World Cup game or Non-World Cup game that dictates his passion for USMNT. For me he's a leftback on the USMNT.


I suppose you are assuming we are playing with a back 4

IMO FJ and Yedlin would make good wingbacks in a 3-4-3 (or 3-4-1-2)

Howard/Horvath
Cameron, Brooks, Ream
Yedlin, Aosta, MB, FJ
Pulisic, Wood, Rowe

or

Howard/Horvath
Cameron, Brooks, Ream
Yedlin, Aosta, MB, FJ
Pulisic
Wood, Altidore

Chance2bad
Cincinnati, OH
Post #89
Saturday August 19, 2017 4:03am

Joined Jun 2017
Total Posts: 39
I agree with many people on here that Cameron would fit well as a CDM especially with our CB depth, however Bradley is not cut out to be an attacking mid so the only was Cameron plays def mid is in a 3 back system with both of them side by side as def mids. This presents another problem with attacking mid, the 2 best option are Pulisic and Nagbe but I feel both of them are more dangerous as wingers. If we went with a 3 back system with Cameron and Bradley as mids I think it should look like this....

Howard

Gonzo Brooks Ream

Yedlin Cameron Bradley Nagbe

Pulisic

Wood Antidote

This presents issues with Nagbe on defense though and I'm not sure I trust Gonzalez or Ream against stud forwards, I've seen Gonzo get burnt by speed far too many times. I think I'd rather stick with a back 4 if it were up to me.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #90
Sunday August 20, 2017 6:12am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,570
If I was to construct my starting 11 against Costa Rica this would be it:

-------Altidore------
Morris----Deuce-----Pulisic
--------Nagbe--
-------------Bradley----
Villa---Besler---Cam----Yedlin
-----------Howard--------

This is based on the injury issues and the form of the players right now. Yedlin gets the nod if he is healthy.

I would use Nagbe as the 8. Both Morris and Pulisic are in fine form. And Morris has looked increasingly dangerous as a winger for Seattle.

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