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navi8132
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Post #1
Wednesday May 10, 2017 3:56pm

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The USA has been invited to the Copa America 2019 in Brazil! As well as Mexico, Japan, China, Spain, and Portugal!

Rey Regicide
Post #2
Wednesday May 10, 2017 4:24pm

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It's up to us now to accept right?

We've been invited in the past but declined the offer, correct?

navi8132
New York
Post #3
Wednesday May 10, 2017 5:03pm

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Dunno, but why would we decline? That Copa America is in my mind is a bigger deal than the Confederation's Cup (so who cares about the Gold Cup aspect).

Could it be that MLS clubs aren't required to release players for it?

Rey Regicide
Post #4
Wednesday May 10, 2017 6:23pm

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Original post from navi8132

Dunno, but why would we decline? That Copa America is in my mind is a bigger deal than the Confederation's Cup (so who cares about the Gold Cup aspect).

Could it be that MLS clubs aren't required to release players for it?


Right, MLS clubs and I also think other clubs around the world, don't have to release for a tournament that's not in their confederation or fifa sanctioned. This being the former.

We used to do it before the 2007 event which resulted in a poor showing by us.

Bradley rightfully made that tournament an experiment and brought in young guys who would later play for us regularly.

But the general feeling for years was that while we would ALWAYS love to go, we didn't get everyone released and we were afraid to go in with a roster that was less than full strength.

admsghs27
Post #5
Wednesday May 10, 2017 7:04pm

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Well I'm the past invitees were allowed to bring only Sub 23 players with I think 1 or 3 overage players similar to the Olympics. Maybe thats why we declined some invitations, Also I hardly doubt they expanded it to 16 just so teams could bring B teams im sure all teams will have their full teams as is Copa America. Wonder why Portugal got invited hmm CR7 last tournament possibly last we see of messi vs CR7

Rey Regicide
Post #6
Wednesday May 10, 2017 8:20pm

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Original post from admsghs27

Well I'm the past invitees were allowed to bring only Sub 23 players with I think 1 or 3 overage players similar to the Olympics. Maybe thats why we declined some invitations, Also I hardly doubt they expanded it to 16 just so teams could bring B teams im sure all teams will have their full teams as is Copa America. Wonder why Portugal got invited hmm CR7 last tournament possibly last we see of messi vs CR7


Mexico limited themselves to that threshold. Everyone else was at liberty to bring who they wanted. Do you have Conmenbol stating the opposite? I remember Japanese involvement in Copa and they had their full squad.

navi8132
New York
Post #7
Wednesday May 10, 2017 8:44pm

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No matter what, I hope we accept the invite. I don't care if we bring in a B squad and don't do well. It will be entertaining and a good experience for those players.

admsghs27
Post #8
Wednesday May 10, 2017 9:38pm

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I'm sure all teams will have their full teams since it falls on a FIFA date. As for Japan they withdrew because of the Tsunami.

goods
Post #9
Wednesday May 10, 2017 9:52pm

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Wouldn't that depend on who wins this gold cup if CONCACAF keeps the playoff format. Especially since the 2019 is considered the A squad tourney? That is why Mexico sends a B squad so they get fringe players quality playing time against high level competition.

Rey Regicide
Post #10
Thursday May 11, 2017 12:18pm

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Original post from navi8132

No matter what, I hope we accept the invite. I don't care if we bring in a B squad and don't do well. It will be entertaining and a good experience for those players.


i do too, bornsteins efforts against Messi were praised.

Beckerman was decent and had we had different coach, he would have p layed since 2007 liberating Bradley (younger) of conservative positioning, maximizing his effectiveness.

I think even tho we were 3 and out we did good things and it wasn't a useless tourney.

Feilhaber Ngueyn had run. I mean literally they played good to great competition, and save for the last 40 50 minutes against Argentina, we did well. For our C squad.

I enjoyed watching our youth. The immediate reaction was embarrassment. I'm not sure why.

db707
Post #11
Thursday May 11, 2017 6:55pm

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I remember that 2007 Copa America being a weird tournament. Lots of blowout games, not just with the U.S, and some weird referee decisions. IIRC Colombia's keeper got sent off in our last game for tying his shoe to time waste, even though both teams were already eliminated. Since we should expect to have a much deeper pool 12 years on and it will be a year after the World Cup, I'd say it's again a good opportunity to test out young players. Use it as basically a Camp Cupcake for fringe Europe-based players (I'd like to see us do at least a friendly for those guys most years anyway).

Dave
Post #12
Friday May 12, 2017 2:33am

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The 2007 Copa, while young & inexperienced, provided a great springboard for a number of players who provided significant contributions at both the 2009 Confederations Cup, and the 2010 World Cup.

We have a very Intriguing crop of young players coming up through the ranks who could significantly benefit from this type of tournament...even if it was 3 and out.

Horvath, Steffen, Gooch, Hyndman, Acosta, Zelalem, CCV, Miazga, Redding, Glad, Akale, Olosunde, Mckinnie, Taitigue, Olosunde, Wright, Arriola, Morris

Add in some veterans to lead them (possibly as a farewell)
Cameron, Yedlin, Fabian, Jozy, Wood, Pulisic, Bradley

And the 2019 Copa could represent an opportunity to establish the core of the USMNT for the 2022 WC.

hamsamwich
Post #13
Friday May 12, 2017 2:35am

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The timing is great as Bruce Arena will be gone and we will have a new coach. Gives him plenty of matches for scrutinizing the players.


The young soccer careers of Rubio Rubin and Brady Scott are headed in completely opposite directions.
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