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Post #91
Tuesday February 28, 2017 4:04am

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Original post from blaise213

It's called not being broke and paying for cable.

Comcast $99 a month


You're such a d*ck.

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Post #92
Tuesday February 28, 2017 4:07am

Joined Oct 2013
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Has to feel good especially for Saucedo. Hopefully this now makes him feel comfortable with making the right choice by playing for the stars and stripes.

Rey Regicide
Post #93
Tuesday February 28, 2017 2:23pm

Joined Sep 2013
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There was this one play, with Lennon on the wing, pinning himself to the line, getting rushed by a defender, his back to him, Lennon didn't try to flick it forward, turn etc he quickly spotted that Fossey (I like his impetus and his defending along with Acosta) was making an interior diagonal run, like between their CM, CB LB and they got a cross in but Mexico cleared. And this came off of 2 quick passes.

This game should have pleased Blaise, Acosta literally took on the country of mexico from inside his penalty box and made his way to the halfway line. Brooks Lennon took on 3 defenders and showed glimpses of Pulisic manueverings.

Adams was like good Michael Bradley, charging froward and pushing their midfield into making quick decisions, and they couldn't keep up.

Williamson I heard people were down on him but I felt he provided so much harrassing and drives forward that he too with Adams kept their midfield honest. De La Torre played the left wing role the way I imagined Dempsey could, with shiftiness instead of just outright speed.

I was impressed with their individual quality, and then cohesively Ramos should most definitely get the credit. Who knows if they can sustain this form with teams that drop off and counter hard. Seems like that's more troublesome for this group.

TheTruth
Post #94
Tuesday February 28, 2017 3:26pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Haven't watched any of this, but it's been pretty comical to see some of you nutsacks crying that the sky is falling, the sky is falling. . . Oh, no wait, we might win the tournament. For fuck's sake.

Rey Regicide
Post #95
Tuesday February 28, 2017 3:34pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,900
by some do you mean 1?

literally Admgs comment that El salvador is better than us was the only comment I see that bordered on sky is falling.

Everyone came on and said they sucked, which they did.

I, true to form, complained about the speed of passing, which sucked, even against ST Kitts etc.

Against Mexico for some reason we were firing passes in and out. EPB looked like a competent midfielder.

the issue remains, and it might (hopefully not) resurface against El Salvador, which is that we go into a funk against teams that don't open themselves up.

Everyone is talking about Klinsmann at the game, that's true... but did anyone notice Richie Williams next to him? lol

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #96
Tuesday February 28, 2017 8:16pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,144
Original post from TheTruth

Haven't watched any of this, but it's been pretty comical to see some of you nutsacks crying that the sky is falling, the sky is falling. . . Oh, no wait, we might win the tournament. For fuck's sake.


As a nutsack, I take offense to this.

But to be fair, we looked really, truly awful against Panama. Pana-ma-ah.

jrhodes42
Post #97
Tuesday February 28, 2017 10:42pm

Joined Feb 2017
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Model citizen, zero discipline.

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Post #98
Wednesday March 1, 2017 1:34am

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What's the next step for our national team? Yes, it would be awesome to have a lineup of players playing in the top 4 leagues and starting for big clubs. But I think a goal that is attainable and will help the national team much is players playing at clubs like Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Zenit St. Pete, Shaktar Donetsk, Porto, Olympiakos, Galatasaray, Besiktas, Fenerbahce, clubs like those and killing it. Even if it isn't a striker in those leagues tearing it up, I would love to see a winger, box to box midfielder or CAM with those clubs who are players that are must have in the line-up, entertaining and fan favorites at those clubs.

MSantoine
Post #99
Wednesday March 1, 2017 12:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from cleancutimage

What's the next step for our national team? Yes, it would be awesome to have a lineup of players playing in the top 4 leagues and starting for big clubs. But I think a goal that is attainable and will help the national team much is players playing at clubs like Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Zenit St. Pete, Shaktar Donetsk, Porto, Olympiakos, Galatasaray, Besiktas, Fenerbahce, clubs like those and killing it. Even if it isn't a striker in those leagues tearing it up, I would love to see a winger, box to box midfielder or CAM with those clubs who are players that are must have in the line-up, entertaining and fan favorites at those clubs.


I think there is a clear progression for national teams and if you look at teams like Belgium, Bosnia, Uruguay, even Mexico/Costa Rica, they've followed similar paths.

Step 1 - Get a national team starting XI filled by guys who COULD play in a top 5 league (note if said player choses to stay in MLS but its clear mid table bundes/epl/dutch teams want him that counts for us due to the lifestyle change)

Step 2 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys who all play for teams that challenge for Europe (ie mid table or above at big leagues plus the usual super clubs)

Step 3 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that are routinely in UCL.

Step 4 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that routinely make knockout round runs in UCL (ie Barca, Chelsea, Monaco, BVB, Munich, etc).

I would say we are getting close to hitting step 1 and should get there by or shortly after 2018 world cup (a good national team doesnt play guys like Bedoya, Gonzalez, Klestjan, etc). When you reach step 1 guys like Nagbe would be your worst starter, not ones you really need to count on. At Step 1 you dont count on aging middle of the road veterans as you have another option to take their place.

Rey Regicide
Post #100
Wednesday March 1, 2017 1:11pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,900
Original post from jrhodes42

Model citizen, zero discipline.


PANAMA!!!!!

cue kick ass solo!

TheTruth
Post #101
Wednesday March 1, 2017 4:48pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Original post from MSantoine

I think there is a clear progression for national teams and if you look at teams like Belgium, Bosnia, Uruguay, even Mexico/Costa Rica, they've followed similar paths.

Step 1 - Get a national team starting XI filled by guys who COULD play in a top 5 league (note if said player choses to stay in MLS but its clear mid table bundes/epl/dutch teams want him that counts for us due to the lifestyle change)

Step 2 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys who all play for teams that challenge for Europe (ie mid table or above at big leagues plus the usual super clubs)

Step 3 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that are routinely in UCL.

Step 4 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that routinely make knockout round runs in UCL (ie Barca, Chelsea, Monaco, BVB, Munich, etc).

I would say we are getting close to hitting step 1 and should get there by or shortly after 2018 world cup (a good national team doesnt play guys like Bedoya, Gonzalez, Klestjan, etc). When you reach step 1 guys like Nagbe would be your worst starter, not ones you really need to count on. At Step 1 you dont count on aging middle of the road veterans as you have another option to take their place.


Will be interesting to see if US/MLS can go from your step 1 and basically take a different route in the next 10 years. Possibly, possibly, more $$ in MLS and improved on-the-field product. From Altidore, Bradley, Chicharito today, to. . . Pulisic tomorrow(??).

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Post #102
Wednesday March 1, 2017 11:22pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Original post from MSantoine

I think there is a clear progression for national teams and if you look at teams like Belgium, Bosnia, Uruguay, even Mexico/Costa Rica, they've followed similar paths.

Step 1 - Get a national team starting XI filled by guys who COULD play in a top 5 league (note if said player choses to stay in MLS but its clear mid table bundes/epl/dutch teams want him that counts for us due to the lifestyle change)

Step 2 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys who all play for teams that challenge for Europe (ie mid table or above at big leagues plus the usual super clubs)

Step 3 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that are routinely in UCL.

Step 4 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that routinely make knockout round runs in UCL (ie Barca, Chelsea, Monaco, BVB, Munich, etc).

I would say we are getting close to hitting step 1 and should get there by or shortly after 2018 world cup (a good national team doesnt play guys like Bedoya, Gonzalez, Klestjan, etc). When you reach step 1 guys like Nagbe would be your worst starter, not ones you really need to count on. At Step 1 you dont count on aging middle of the road veterans as you have another option to take their place.


I would say Step 1 and Step 3 is our most realistic progression.

Dave
Post #103
Thursday March 2, 2017 3:13am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 739
Original post from MSantoine

I think there is a clear progression for national teams and if you look at teams like Belgium, Bosnia, Uruguay, even Mexico/Costa Rica, they've followed similar paths.

Step 1 - Get a national team starting XI filled by guys who COULD play in a top 5 league (note if said player choses to stay in MLS but its clear mid table bundes/epl/dutch teams want him that counts for us due to the lifestyle change)

Step 2 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys who all play for teams that challenge for Europe (ie mid table or above at big leagues plus the usual super clubs)

Step 3 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that are routinely in UCL.

Step 4 - Get a starting XI thats filled by guys playing for teams that routinely make knockout round runs in UCL (ie Barca, Chelsea, Monaco, BVB, Munich, etc).

I would say we are getting close to hitting step 1 and should get there by or shortly after 2018 world cup (a good national team doesnt play guys like Bedoya, Gonzalez, Klestjan, etc). When you reach step 1 guys like Nagbe would be your worst starter, not ones you really need to count on. At Step 1 you dont count on aging middle of the road veterans as you have another option to take their place.


IMO we're close on Steps 1 & 2. We have a number of quality young/youngish players who could play for mid-table teams in top 5 leagues. Some of them may currently be plying their trade with clubs that are bottom dwellers and/or in 2nd tier leagues but they have the quality to play for mid-table clubs. If things for these young players continues I wouldn't be surprised to see us accomplish 1 & 2 by the 2018 WC.
Step # 3 is one that is going to take more time. Again we have some impressive prospects coming up, but will enough of them pan out or be under contract at clubs that are routinely in the UCL? That's hard to predict. We'd need at least 1 player getting minutes at clubs in the top 3-4 of each of the 5 leagues to accomplish this. That's a tall order for a nation without a pedigree in the sport. Hell even Mexico, the most successful national team in CONCACAF (and I hate writing that), doesn't hasn't reached this level. I'd guess we're probably 10-20 yrs away from this level. And only if we can drastically improve the coaching across the board for our youth development.

MSantoine
Post #104
Thursday March 2, 2017 1:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from Dave

IMO we're close on Steps 1 & 2. We have a number of quality young/youngish players who could play for mid-table teams in top 5 leagues. Some of them may currently be plying their trade with clubs that are bottom dwellers and/or in 2nd tier leagues but they have the quality to play for mid-table clubs. If things for these young players continues I wouldn't be surprised to see us accomplish 1 & 2 by the 2018 WC.
Step # 3 is one that is going to take more time. Again we have some impressive prospects coming up, but will enough of them pan out or be under contract at clubs that are routinely in the UCL? That's hard to predict. We'd need at least 1 player getting minutes at clubs in the top 3-4 of each of the 5 leagues to accomplish this. That's a tall order for a nation without a pedigree in the sport. Hell even Mexico, the most successful national team in CONCACAF (and I hate writing that), doesn't hasn't reached this level. I'd guess we're probably 10-20 yrs away from this level. And only if we can drastically improve the coaching across the board for our youth development.


I agree we are getting close to step 1/2. But we need those 19-22 year olds (hyndman, zelalem, vickers, gooch, de la torre, Lennon, wright, akale, etc) to make the step from reserves to not just squad guys but to be weekly starters. It's a huge step up. The good thing is we have moreover than ever so we need less to breakthrough as we have options now.

hamsamwich
Post #105
Thursday March 2, 2017 1:43pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,509
Mexico destroyed El Salvador 6-1. A win or draw against El Salvador tomorrow and we win the group and go to the final to play...

Honduras, who beat Costa Rica 2-1.

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