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EKneezy
Post #31
Wednesday August 7, 2013 6:22pm

Joined May 2013
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Said Heerenveen was neck and neck. Thought he go to the Dutch League.Great place for attacking talent. But nevertheless who are we to criticize players..good move to Ligue 1.

MSantoine
Post #32
Wednesday August 7, 2013 6:45pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,184
Original post from Scout92

The French league is a good league to develop in(better than Sweden), on of the main sources of EPL incoming players in from the French league. Just hope they don't get relegated and he gets PT.


Exactly. It could easily go one of two ways.

1) Horrible- Nantes gets relegated and he either plays in Ligue 2 (bye bye international career) or scrambles to transfer again (hello Sweden goodbye international career)

2) Good- He gets PT. They stay up and by next year are at worst mid table. Then he could potentially transfer to Newcastle, aka French horders

Lilshmike
Post #33
Wednesday August 7, 2013 9:23pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 511
Original post from MSantoine

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2) Good- He gets PT. They stay up and by next year are at worst mid table. Then he could potentially transfer to Newcastle, aka French horders


Why does everyone think that you have to make it to the premier league to be a good player?

Ligue 1 is good. VERY good. You can still be a great player and not make a transfer to the premier league

jackface
Post #34
Wednesday August 7, 2013 10:43pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 19
Great move. Relegated or not, he'll have the whole year in L1 going into the world cup. Thats what really matters. If they get relegated, who really cares he would have just spent the past year playing great competition as he heads into the WC as a great bench option

MSantoine
Post #35
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:21am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,184
Original post from Lilshmike

Why does everyone think that you have to make it to the premier league to be a good player?

Ligue 1 is good. VERY good. You can still be a great player and not make a transfer to the premier league


Ligue 1 is like the Portuguese league, and Netherlands, and to a lesser degree Spain. Completely top heavy. You have PSG, Lyon, & Marseille. Sometime Lille. Those 4 teams almost always are top three and theres a huge drop off after that. Every now and then a team goes all out and is competitive but then they fade back. If he was playing for one of those top 4 teams then Id agree they are just as good as most EPL teams. But after that most of the french teams would probably be relegation fodder in EPL and bundesliga

Jzaval01
Post #36
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:42am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,540
If Bedoya makes some noise and his team gets relegated he might just switch to another Ligue 1 team. Hope the best for our boy.

chillguy1992
Post #37
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:55am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 444
Its a risky move because of possible relegation but at the same time this is a world cup year he wants to make the world cup squad and making a move like this only helps his cause. Truth is Herveneen move might have been more stable but I think as a professional player you have to take chances especially in a world cup year. I think this is a good move ligue 1 is still a top 5 league.

jackface
Post #38
Thursday August 8, 2013 7:15am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 19
Original post from MSantoine

Ligue 1 is like the Portuguese league, and Netherlands, and to a lesser degree Spain. Completely top heavy. You have PSG, Lyon, & Marseille. Sometime Lille. Those 4 teams almost always are top three and theres a huge drop off after that. Every now and then a team goes all out and is competitive but then they fade back. If he was playing for one of those top 4 teams then Id agree they are just as good as most EPL teams. But after that most of the french teams would probably be relegation fodder in EPL and bundesliga


All the euro leagues are top heavy my friend. "Big four" in england every year, plus tottenham recently. Who else competes, realistically, in the epl? Germany, Bayern teams, Dortmund, Schalke. Spain, Barca and Real. Italy is a little more fluid, Juve, AC, Inter, Lazio, Fiorentina, maybe Roma. NED, PSV, Ajax. After the top 6 or so on each league, they are all equal. I say great move for Ale. If they get relegated, who cares about the competition of L2 next year? We will be in a new WC cycle and that first year after this cycle means nothing. Play L1 going into 2014 is all that matters.

Jod
Copenhagen
Post #39
Thursday August 8, 2013 9:49am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 32
The risk is never really relegation anyways. The risk is looking like a bad player, or worse not playing. Nantes are even odds to get relegated (I checked). Lets hope the player and his agent at least have some idea that they play a style he will look good in.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #40
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:38pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
Original post from Jod

The risk is never really relegation anyways. The risk is looking like a bad player, or worse not playing. Nantes are even odds to get relegated (I checked). Lets hope the player and his agent at least have some idea that they play a style he will look good in.


Agreed - this goes back to the "picking off the carcass" idea that is sometimes thrown around when teams are condemned to relegation: the talented players are lured back into the top league with another team and never really have to face relegation. Examples: Scott Parker (West Ham -> Tottenham), Charlie Adam (Blackpool ->Liverpool), and the several Wigan players this season who Martinez has brought to Everton.

If Ale can at least prove he belongs in that division, he'll find a home with another team in the worst-case scenario. People looks at the Helsingborgs situation with disdain because it was a step down from Rangers, but given the situation itself and his familiarity with the league, it wasn't that bad. He's now quickly going back to better competition, so let's hope it pays off for him.
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Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #41
Sunday August 18, 2013 5:44pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Bedoya in at 52' min for Nates today.

platter
Jacksonville, FL
Post #42
Sunday August 18, 2013 9:02pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 87
watched the last 30 minutes.....Lorient dominated the game from what I saw. Bedoya had a few good touches, but the team showed glaring weaknesses in the center of the pitch. Lorient could go right through the middle and held probably 75% of possession. Could be a long year for ale.

MSantoine
Post #43
Monday August 19, 2013 1:44am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,184
Original post from platter

watched the last 30 minutes.....Lorient dominated the game from what I saw. Bedoya had a few good touches, but the team showed glaring weaknesses in the center of the pitch. Lorient could go right through the middle and held probably 75% of possession. Could be a long year for ale.


That was my concern. When you join a recently promoted team, unless they are trhrowing money around like its free (Man City a few years back, Monaco, PSG) they usually go right back down

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