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Rey Regicide
Post #1
Tuesday October 18, 2016 11:35am

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Funny how we talk about the next Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and rightfully so.

Replacement for McBride as the target forward.

We managed to get good to very good central midfielders since the time of his departure, but we really haven't been able to replace Claudio Reyna. Our second apex, when we were ranked 5, just or not, he was the guy pulling the strings in midfield.

BG6
Post #2
Tuesday October 18, 2016 1:50pm

Joined May 2014
Total Posts: 91
Really, really great topic. There hasn't been anyone remotely close in quality to Reyna (wouldn't put tab in the same category either) and a is huge impediment to the usmnt reaching the next level.

Dave
Post #3
Tuesday October 18, 2016 1:51pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,003
While Reyna was a very good CM, I don't think he was as great as people seem to remember him. People bash on Bradley, Jones, and others for their mistakes....but completely forget that Reyna had as big (or bigger) mistakes during many of his World Cup matches. It was Reyna's gaff against Ghana in 2006 which cost us the game and knocked us out in the group round. Reyna often gets credit for the 2002 run, but people forget that he didn't play in the all important game against Portugal...nor was he all that influential in the games against Mexico or Germany. The hero's of 2002 were Friedel, Pope, O'Brian, Mastroeni, Donovan, & McBride. Reyna gets the credit because he was the Captain....and the most notable name on the team.

IMO Reyna is remembers as such a stand-out because during his era we had very few noteworthy players. Most of our players during those years were lower level league role players....while he was a 1st tier league player, and was the first American awarded a captaincy in Europe.

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Post #4
Tuesday October 18, 2016 3:01pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
fair enough, he's made mistakes

I can't accept tho, that Reyna wasn't an important, or one of the more important parts of our success during the times you mentioned, and I'll go out and say during the mid 90's when we rode the wave of good football in copa 95 and everything up until 98 disaster.

I feel like it's easier to marginalize those who's contributions aren't quantifiable. Which perhaps partly serves as the answer as to why we don't say "next Reyna". Put it this way, are we going to say, next Bradley after Bradley moves on?

Honestly don't feel Bradley was a better player.

TheTruth
Post #5
Tuesday October 18, 2016 9:40pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Reyna our 2nd best (American-bred, field) player of all time IMO.

And don't get too caught up in like-for-like replacements, or position-for-position replacements, guys. Jermaine Jones was fucking awesome (and the reason for the parentheses above) - was he a Reyna replacement or just a great center mid? Fuck, everyone on this forum wanted him to be a goddamn 6.

Rey Regicide
Post #6
Wednesday October 19, 2016 12:05pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from TheTruth

Reyna our 2nd best (American-bred, field) player of all time IMO.

And don't get too caught up in like-for-like replacements, or position-for-position replacements, guys. Jermaine Jones was fucking awesome (and the reason for the parentheses above) - was he a Reyna replacement or just a great center mid? Fuck, everyone on this forum wanted him to be a goddamn 6.


Fair enough, but don't you having a Reyna would be conducive to whatever it is we're trying to do today, from a tactics standpoint?

stone88
Post #7
Wednesday October 19, 2016 6:10pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,517
I thought Nagbe could have been or be the next Reyna. Obviously that ain't goin too well.

Rey Regicide
Post #8
Wednesday October 19, 2016 6:27pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from stone88

I thought Nagbe could have been or be the next Reyna. Obviously that ain't goin too well.


Yea I was kinda going that route, it seems like even Klinsmann isn't too concerned with the middle third.

dolcem
Post #9
Thursday October 20, 2016 1:51pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Torres is a similar type of player and had he been played in his natural position, we would have actually had someone quite capable of distributing the ball for once. Interestingly enough, he's the only player we've had since Reyna who actually knows how to take a set piece. I don't think it's a coincidence; technique is technique. There aren't any players out there who aren't good with the ball at their feet that can shoot from range or pass the ball well.
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Post #10
Thursday October 20, 2016 1:58pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Like in a variety of ways.

Bradley was great for awhile at hitting the long ball and switching fields etc, but he's exhibited some drop in form at those.

johnvuke
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Post #11
Friday October 21, 2016 3:01pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 33
I think Bradley was every bit as good as Reyna in his prime. It's just that Bradley's prime was so extremely short. His time at Heerenveen, Chievo and his first year at Roma were really very good. Unfortunately (IMO) he didn't stay and fight for a place. I think he'd be far better for it if he had, but the money from Toronto was a lot.

His move to Toronto has coincided with a tremendous dip in form...And it really seems mental. He used to do well dealing with pressure, and now he seems far to prone to give it away.

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Post #12
Friday October 21, 2016 3:15pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Lampard and Makellele

or even Xabi Alonso

It's arguable that Lampard was always better than everyone in that group.

Some might totally disregard the effort, industry, the goals Lampard scores for you, and say that Alonso's qualities on the ball make him much better anyway.

I wouldn't. I totally get that you can play the game differently, and have any of those three express themselves more in each different style of play.

I think Bradley got onto Roma because of his "Lampard" qualities, and not his "Reyna". If that makes sense.

And in that sense, what Bradley did best, was not better than what Reyna did best. IMO


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